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<i>You know, in my life,</i>

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<i>I've gotten a lot of happiness</i>
<i>out of helping people.</i>

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<i>So I thought</i>
<i>it would be a good thing for me</i>

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<i>to become a nurse.</i>

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<i>I started off working at night.</i>

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<i>I would find myself…</i>

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<i>feeling overwhelmed.</i>

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<i>Feeling like</i>

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<i>I couldn't watch people hurt.</i>

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<i>At times, the only thing I could do…</i>

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<i>was to try and end their suffering.</i>

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<i>I couldn't stop.</i>

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<i>Thank you for calling</i>
<i>the New Jersey Poison Control Center.</i>

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<i>Please stay on the line. A poison</i>
<i>specialist will be with you shortly.</i>

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<i>Poison Control Center,</i>
<i>can I help you?</i>

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<i>Hi, I'm calling</i>
<i>from Somerset Medical Center.</i>

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<i>We're trying to investigate</i>
<i>a toxicity that occurred in a patient.</i>

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<i>That was on the 16th.</i>

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<i>On the 28th, in the same unit,</i>
<i>we had another Dig-toxicity.</i>

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- <i>Same unit?</i>
- <i>Yeah.</i>

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<i>First thing I think of</i>
<i>is lab error.</i>

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<i>He-- He died.</i>

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<i>Off the record, there were</i>
<i>two people in the hospital before this</i>

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<i>that went hypoglycemic really strangely.</i>

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- <i>Uh-huh.</i>
- <i>And we were starting to panic.</i>

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<i>I'm gonna put it</i>
<i>right in your hands.</i>

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<i>You now have a police matter.</i>

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<i>At Somerset Medical Center,</i>
<i>patient safety comes first.</i>

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<i>Hi, I'm looking for Nancy.</i>

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<i>I'm just trying to follow up the outcome.</i>
<i>What did you decide to do?</i>

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<i>Actually, administration</i>
<i>has kind of taken over the investigation.</i>

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<i>They've called in our attorneys.</i>

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<i>And they've asked me really not to talk</i>
<i>to any outside agencies at this point.</i>

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<i>So you don't know</i>
<i>if they've gone to the authorities yet?</i>

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<i>I don't know that, no.</i>

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<i>And I've probably shared</i>
<i>more than I should have right now.</i>

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<i>I never really liked</i>
<i>being who I was.</i>

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<i>After my mother's death,</i>

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<i>I didn't cope with it very well.</i>

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<i>Mother was the only person at that time</i>

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<i>that sort of kept a cushion</i>
<i>between what was happening in the house</i>…

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<i>…and me.</i>

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<i>With her gone…</i>

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<i>I…</i>

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<i>I just felt very…</i>

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<i>unprotected.</i>

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<i>June of '87,</i>
<i>I graduated my nursing school.</i>

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<i>It was the only thing</i>
<i>I thought I could do.</i>

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<i>And I felt like I was helping people.</i>

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<i>I wanted very much to</i>

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<i>quit being a nurse</i>

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<i>after Warren Hospital.</i>

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<i>But they were telling me</i>
<i>that I was a deadbeat dad.</i>

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<i>That I had to continue</i>
<i>to support the children.</i>

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<i>I knew that if I was placed</i>
<i>in these situations,</i>

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<i>that I would feel the need to…</i>

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<i>to end suffering.</i>

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<i>I didn't know</i>

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<i>how to say it.</i>

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<i>What was happening,</i>
<i>what I was feeling, what I was doing.</i>

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<i>I used Digoxin because…</i>

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<i>it would work…</i>

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<i>over a period of a couple hours.</i>

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<i>The nurses I was working with…</i>

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<i>they didn't know what was going on.</i>

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<i>I wish</i>

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<i>I was stopped years ago.</i>

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<i>I thought I would be.</i>

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- <i>Good morning.</i>
<i>Hi, is this Bruce?</i>

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- <i>Yes, how are you?</i>
<i>-Hi, Bruce. This is Mary Lund.</i>

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<i>Hi. Dr. Marcus will be here</i>
<i>in one second.</i>

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<i>Here he is.</i>

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<i>Dr. Marcus,</i>
<i>could you kind of summarize</i>

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<i>what you've already spoken to Nancy about?</i>

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<i>If there is somebody</i>
<i>out there that is purposely doing this,</i>

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<i>if you don't report it to the police</i>
<i>and somebody else dies…</i>

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<i>I would not waste time.</i>

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- <i>Okay.</i>
- <i>All right.</i>

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<i>Well, we appreciate your input.</i>

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<i>Saved message.</i>
<i>Monday, 6:57 p.m.</i>

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<i>Hey, Amy. This is Charlie.</i>
<i>Just returning your call.</i>

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<i>Um… Ugh, I--</i>

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<i>There's a big story to tell.</i>

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<i>There was a big, big commotion.</i>
<i>Give me a call back, all right?</i>

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<i>My mind raced.</i>

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<i>There was fear…</i>

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<i>of being caught.</i>

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<i>I couldn't stop.</i>

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<i>I had applied…</i>

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<i>for a full-time position</i>

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<i>at a different facility.</i>

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<i>And I knew that it would happen again.</i>

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<i>Hey, Amy. This is Charlie.</i>
<i>Just returning your call.</i>

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<i>Friday's possible. I don't know</i>
<i>what time you were thinking of.</i>

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<i>But sure, yeah, I'd like to get together.</i>

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- <i>How are you?</i>
- <i>Okay.</i>

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- <i>Yeah?</i>
- <i>Yeah.</i>

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<i>I had a problem</i>
<i>when I first started out.</i>

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<i>An incident with low blood sugar.</i>

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<i>And at Warren Hospital, a patient had died</i>
<i>24 hours after I'd been her nurse.</i>

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<i>Someone said, the son had said,</i>
<i>that I injected her.</i>

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<i>And what about Father Gall?</i>

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<i>What happened? Charlie, what happened?</i>

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<i>I can't…</i>

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<i>I know you can.</i>

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<i>I see you, and I'm not stupid.</i>

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<i>So why?</i>

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<i>You're so good.</i>

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<i>Why?</i>

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<i>Let me help you.</i>

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My name is Detective Sergeant Tim Braun.

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With me is Detective Dan Baldwin.

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Today is Sunday, December 14th, 2003.

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The time is approximately 6:14 p.m.

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Did you have an opportunity

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to talk to a friend of yours
prior to going on tape?

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Yes, I did.

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Was it after that conversation
you had with your friend,

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you decided to talk to us
about particular incidents?

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Yes, it was.

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Let's talk about the matter
pertaining to Florian Gall.

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Are you responsible for his death?

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Yes, I am.

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And why is that, Charlie?

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Um, because I injected him
with a medication called Digoxin.

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How did that make you feel?

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I…

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I was relieved that he wasn't…

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attached to all those machines anymore.

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I felt very compelled,

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very driven to end suffering as I saw it.

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I would go long periods of time
with nothing, but then,

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I would find myself getting back,

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feeling overwhelmed,

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feeling like I couldn't watch people hurt,

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die, be treated like nonhumans.

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I… have…

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…destroyed not only those people's…

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God… destiny,

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and…

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caused probably a lot of suffering
of those families,

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but I have also hurt people that I love

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very much.

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And didn't, for the world,
want to do that.

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I love…

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my children very much,

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and very much wanted to be
a part of their lives.

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But I

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just couldn't stop myself.

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I did not want the people
to see me as this… what I am.

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What are you, Charles?

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A person who was trusted,

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and have been responsible
for a lot of people dying.

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I contaminated IV infusion bags
with insulin.

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I don't remember
the specific patients or whatever.

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Is there any particular reason
why you might do that? Just pot luck?

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I guess the majority of patients
were very critical.

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Can you tell us, in total,
throughout your entire 15, 16 years,

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how many patients
have you helped to their death?

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Um, possibly 30 to 40 patients.

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Okay, 30 to 40 patients in total?

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Yes.

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<i>Most of the hospitals</i>
<i>I've worked at…</i>

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<i>they strongly suspected that there were</i>

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<i>deaths associated with me.</i>

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<i>Why didn't they take it further?</i>

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<i>I think they were worried</i>
<i>about the publicity.</i>