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You know, in my life,
I've gotten a lot of happiness out of helping people.
So I thought it would be a good thing for me
to become a nurse.
I started off working at night.
I would find myself…
feeling overwhelmed.
Feeling like
I couldn't watch people hurt.
At times, the only thing I could do…
was to try and end their suffering.
I couldn't stop.
Thank you for calling the New Jersey Poison Control Center.
Please stay on the line. A poison specialist will be with you shortly.
Poison Control Center, can I help you?
Hi, I'm calling from Somerset Medical Center.
We're trying to investigate a toxicity that occurred in a patient.
That was on the 16th.
On the 28th, in the same unit, we had another Dig-toxicity.
- Same unit? - Yeah.
First thing I think of is lab error.
He-- He died.
Off the record, there were two people in the hospital before this
that went hypoglycemic really strangely.
- Uh-huh. - And we were starting to panic.
I'm gonna put it right in your hands.
You now have a police matter.
At Somerset Medical Center, patient safety comes first.
Hi, I'm looking for Nancy.
I'm just trying to follow up the outcome. What did you decide to do?
Actually, administration has kind of taken over the investigation.
They've called in our attorneys.
And they've asked me really not to talk to any outside agencies at this point.
So you don't know if they've gone to the authorities yet?
I don't know that, no.
And I've probably shared more than I should have right now.
I never really liked being who I was.
After my mother's death,
I didn't cope with it very well.
Mother was the only person at that time
that sort of kept a cushion between what was happening in the house…
…and me.
With her gone…
I…
I just felt very…
unprotected.
June of '87, I graduated my nursing school.
It was the only thing I thought I could do.
And I felt like I was helping people.
I wanted very much to
quit being a nurse
after Warren Hospital.
But they were telling me that I was a deadbeat dad.
That I had to continue to support the children.
I knew that if I was placed in these situations,
that I would feel the need to…
to end suffering.
I didn't know
how to say it.
What was happening, what I was feeling, what I was doing.
I used Digoxin because…
it would work…
over a period of a couple hours.
The nurses I was working with…
they didn't know what was going on.
I wish
I was stopped years ago.
I thought I would be.
- Good morning. Hi, is this Bruce?
- Yes, how are you? -Hi, Bruce. This is Mary Lund.
Hi. Dr. Marcus will be here in one second.
Here he is.
Dr. Marcus, could you kind of summarize
what you've already spoken to Nancy about?
If there is somebody out there that is purposely doing this,
if you don't report it to the police and somebody else dies…
I would not waste time.
- Okay. - All right.
Well, we appreciate your input.
Saved message. Monday, 6:57 p.m.
Hey, Amy. This is Charlie. Just returning your call.
Um… Ugh, I--
There's a big story to tell.
There was a big, big commotion. Give me a call back, all right?
My mind raced.
There was fear…
of being caught.
I couldn't stop.
I had applied…
for a full-time position
at a different facility.
And I knew that it would happen again.
Hey, Amy. This is Charlie. Just returning your call.
Friday's possible. I don't know what time you were thinking of.
But sure, yeah, I'd like to get together.
- How are you? - Okay.
- Yeah? - Yeah.
I had a problem when I first started out.
An incident with low blood sugar.
And at Warren Hospital, a patient had died 24 hours after I'd been her nurse.
Someone said, the son had said, that I injected her.
And what about Father Gall?
What happened? Charlie, what happened?
I can't…
I know you can.
I see you, and I'm not stupid.
So why?
You're so good.
Why?
Let me help you.
My name is Detective Sergeant Tim Braun.
With me is Detective Dan Baldwin.
Today is Sunday, December 14th, 2003.
The time is approximately 6:14 p.m.
Did you have an opportunity
to talk to a friend of yours prior to going on tape?
Yes, I did.
Was it after that conversation you had with your friend,
you decided to talk to us about particular incidents?
Yes, it was.
Let's talk about the matter pertaining to Florian Gall.
Are you responsible for his death?
Yes, I am.
And why is that, Charlie?
Um, because I injected him with a medication called Digoxin.
How did that make you feel?
I…
I was relieved that he wasn't…
attached to all those machines anymore.
I felt very compelled,
very driven to end suffering as I saw it.
I would go long periods of time with nothing, but then,
I would find myself getting back,
feeling overwhelmed,
feeling like I couldn't watch people hurt,
die, be treated like nonhumans.
I… have…
…destroyed not only those people's…
God… destiny,
and…
caused probably a lot of suffering of those families,
but I have also hurt people that I love
very much.
And didn't, for the world, want to do that.
I love…
my children very much,
and very much wanted to be a part of their lives.
But I
just couldn't stop myself.
I did not want the people to see me as this… what I am.
What are you, Charles?
A person who was trusted,
and have been responsible for a lot of people dying.
I contaminated IV infusion bags with insulin.
I don't remember the specific patients or whatever.
Is there any particular reason why you might do that? Just pot luck?
I guess the majority of patients were very critical.
Can you tell us, in total, throughout your entire 15, 16 years,
how many patients have you helped to their death?
Um, possibly 30 to 40 patients.
Okay, 30 to 40 patients in total?
Yes.
Most of the hospitals I've worked at…
they strongly suspected that there were
deaths associated with me.
Why didn't they take it further?
I think they were worried about the publicity.