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In this video, 14 00:04:21,348 --> 00:04:23,175 I will show you how to build a garden of your own 15 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:25,787 by using techniques from thousands of years ago. 16 00:04:26,614 --> 00:04:27,702 Let us begin. 17 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:29,660 In 10,000 BC... 18 00:04:39,322 --> 00:04:41,411 -[military band music playing] -Attention, Private. 19 00:04:41,585 --> 00:04:44,022 You're about to learn the history of the US Military, 20 00:04:44,196 --> 00:04:47,809 the meanest, the baddest, the most powerful military the world has ever seen. 21 00:04:47,983 --> 00:04:49,419 Time to untuck your manhood. 22 00:04:49,593 --> 00:04:51,203 Listen up, you miserable son of a... 23 00:05:04,565 --> 00:05:07,089 [static on TV] 24 00:05:07,263 --> 00:05:11,398 Welcome to the history of proctology. 25 00:05:11,572 --> 00:05:13,443 [upbeat music] 26 00:05:13,617 --> 00:05:14,618 [snaps rubber glove] 27 00:05:16,359 --> 00:05:17,404 [music stops] 28 00:05:23,975 --> 00:05:26,978 [tense music] 29 00:05:37,075 --> 00:05:39,121 [static on TV] 30 00:05:43,386 --> 00:05:44,474 [taps TV] 31 00:05:52,090 --> 00:05:53,657 [grunts softly] 32 00:06:05,277 --> 00:06:08,324 [sinister music] 33 00:06:13,503 --> 00:06:17,377 What is the history of metal and horror? 34 00:06:18,203 --> 00:06:19,596 Let's find out. 35 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:21,206 [static] 36 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:24,645 [intense music] 37 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:39,224 Throughout this film, we will examine the origins 38 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:42,053 of both heavy metal and horror, 39 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:46,406 and how the two ultimately became intertwined. 40 00:06:47,058 --> 00:06:50,192 Have you ever noticed how fans of metal, 41 00:06:50,366 --> 00:06:51,672 more often than not, 42 00:06:52,194 --> 00:06:55,066 are also fans of horror, and vice versa. 43 00:06:55,632 --> 00:06:57,504 With the help of some friends, 44 00:06:57,678 --> 00:07:00,507 we will dig deep into these genres 45 00:07:00,681 --> 00:07:03,597 and uncover their roots and evolution. 46 00:07:04,162 --> 00:07:06,600 In order to understand how this all began, 47 00:07:06,774 --> 00:07:09,254 let us step into the darkness 48 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:13,345 and explore the history of horror. 49 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,608 [static] 50 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:16,871 All cultures value storytelling. 51 00:07:17,045 --> 00:07:18,394 Storytelling is one of our, 52 00:07:18,568 --> 00:07:20,614 our major impulses as human beings. 53 00:07:20,788 --> 00:07:22,920 There are also the dark side, the tales, 54 00:07:23,094 --> 00:07:24,792 the warnings that we need to share, 55 00:07:24,966 --> 00:07:26,446 the verboten, "We must not go there." 56 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:29,057 Even in the pictographs, 57 00:07:29,231 --> 00:07:32,626 as far back as we could go, were horror stories. 58 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,324 As long as there has been storytelling, 59 00:07:35,498 --> 00:07:40,111 people have used monsters to explain things they don't understand 60 00:07:40,285 --> 00:07:43,245 and to express things they don't know how to articulate. 61 00:07:43,419 --> 00:07:47,989 If the Bible is a base text for most of European civilization, 62 00:07:48,163 --> 00:07:52,036 we've wanted the same kind of mix of, like, horror and gore, 63 00:07:52,210 --> 00:07:55,126 as well as morally uplifting stuff ever since. 64 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:58,478 The dark side of we, what we have, 65 00:07:58,652 --> 00:08:01,742 that's an internal part of us, started to externalize it. 66 00:08:01,916 --> 00:08:05,180 And characters became the dark side. 67 00:08:05,354 --> 00:08:10,098 It all stems from Greek classical tragedy, 68 00:08:10,707 --> 00:08:15,538 and splits off into Roman melodrama, 69 00:08:15,712 --> 00:08:20,021 then up through Medieval morality plays 70 00:08:20,195 --> 00:08:23,067 into Elizabethan revenge tragedy, 71 00:08:23,241 --> 00:08:27,245 then into Edwardian times where they write melodramas. 72 00:08:27,419 --> 00:08:30,945 One of the ways in which you can talk about very real things 73 00:08:31,772 --> 00:08:35,906 or very controversial things is to dress them up as monsters. 74 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:41,129 So, you get to Frankenstein,1818, 75 00:08:41,303 --> 00:08:43,697 And in one sense, it's a very literal story 76 00:08:43,871 --> 00:08:47,614 about a guy who stitches together 77 00:08:47,788 --> 00:08:51,269 another being out of corpse parts, 78 00:08:51,443 --> 00:08:55,970 and runs a huge jolt of electricity through him, and creates a monster. 79 00:08:56,144 --> 00:08:59,321 The Strange Case Of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is published in 1886, 80 00:08:59,495 --> 00:09:03,847 which is five years after the Ripper murders had terrorized 81 00:09:04,021 --> 00:09:06,763 not just London but the whole world. 82 00:09:06,937 --> 00:09:10,506 Jack the Ripper is the archetype of all subsequent slashers. 83 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:12,987 Name me a slasher movie that doesn't draw 84 00:09:13,161 --> 00:09:16,207 on some aspect of, of Jack the Ripper. 85 00:09:16,381 --> 00:09:21,256 And, of course, Bram Stoker was the theater impresario who put that on stage. 86 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:22,953 [Del] Bram Stoker'sDracula, 87 00:09:23,606 --> 00:09:26,435 not the first vampire story by any means. 88 00:09:26,609 --> 00:09:28,916 You've had things like Varney the Vampire, 89 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:32,397 which was part of a penny-dreadful story that came out. 90 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:35,487 But Bram Stoker broke really new ground, 91 00:09:35,662 --> 00:09:37,577 uh, by using old tropes. 92 00:09:37,751 --> 00:09:42,277 Film then was the natural place to take over. 93 00:09:42,451 --> 00:09:45,497 In silent films, and then in talkies. 94 00:09:45,672 --> 00:09:50,590 That structure of how is the good guy 95 00:09:50,764 --> 00:09:52,853 gonna defeat the externalization 96 00:09:53,027 --> 00:09:54,898 of what the dark side in him 97 00:09:55,072 --> 00:09:57,292 in a character has been realized? 98 00:09:57,466 --> 00:09:59,424 We can hate that person, 99 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:03,211 who is really ourselves externalized. 100 00:10:04,168 --> 00:10:07,519 That's the structure of melodrama and horror. 101 00:10:07,694 --> 00:10:12,612 So much of it to me is the art direction, and that's what those films were. 102 00:10:12,786 --> 00:10:15,005 You know, because for me, in those films, that's what determines 103 00:10:15,179 --> 00:10:17,138 what makes them classic and what doesn't. 104 00:10:17,312 --> 00:10:20,402 [sinister music] 105 00:10:21,011 --> 00:10:25,059 Well, of course, uh, my great-grandfather being Lon Chaney Sr. 106 00:10:25,233 --> 00:10:29,063 was very well renowned in the horror genre. 107 00:10:29,237 --> 00:10:31,500 You can look at him, and you see his influence 108 00:10:31,674 --> 00:10:33,676 all over Hollywood even to this day. 109 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:37,201 And he was the founding father of the entire genre. 110 00:10:37,375 --> 00:10:41,510 In early 1930s, you have the very famous versions of Draculaand Frankenstein, 111 00:10:41,684 --> 00:10:45,775 which set the look of the monsters for generations to come. 112 00:10:45,949 --> 00:10:49,953 The character Dracula described by Bram Stoker in his book 113 00:10:50,127 --> 00:10:53,827 was a, a horrific, ugly kind of a being. 114 00:10:54,349 --> 00:10:57,134 Whereas my father brought his own interpretation. 115 00:10:57,308 --> 00:10:59,702 He did his own makeup, his mode of dress, 116 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:03,053 his form of speech, his eyes. 117 00:11:03,227 --> 00:11:06,840 My dad's portrayal really inspired a whole movement. 118 00:11:07,014 --> 00:11:10,713 The Goth movement has got even carried over into the music world 119 00:11:10,887 --> 00:11:12,672 with, for example, Bauhaus. 120 00:11:12,846 --> 00:11:16,632 It was, uh, you know, a dark, sinister, 121 00:11:16,806 --> 00:11:19,156 evil personification 122 00:11:19,983 --> 00:11:25,206 that crossed both worlds from the films to music. 123 00:11:25,380 --> 00:11:28,644 [Karina] And the same with Frankenstein and Boris Karloff. 124 00:11:28,818 --> 00:11:31,865 You have the square head, you have the bolts in the neck, 125 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:34,432 the ragged coat that comes down 126 00:11:34,606 --> 00:11:38,480 because his arms are clearly taken from somebody with very long arms. 127 00:11:38,654 --> 00:11:41,483 It was so different 128 00:11:41,657 --> 00:11:45,182 from anything the audiences had ever seen before. 129 00:11:45,356 --> 00:11:48,272 It was startling. Pushed so many envelopes. 130 00:11:48,446 --> 00:11:50,144 It was mesmerizing because, you know, 131 00:11:50,318 --> 00:11:52,755 that film has no music whatsoever. 132 00:11:52,929 --> 00:11:54,801 Only in the beginning and in the end. 133 00:11:54,975 --> 00:11:57,542 And so when you really, really think about it, 134 00:11:57,717 --> 00:12:01,895 it's a very, like, empty-sounding film, you know, 135 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:03,723 and I was intrigued by that. 136 00:12:03,897 --> 00:12:05,986 It just sucked me in, and I, 137 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,553 I've just been in, in this world ever since. 138 00:12:08,728 --> 00:12:12,514 I like the scene where the little girl gives him the flower, 139 00:12:12,688 --> 00:12:16,170 and then he picks her up and fucking hums her. I love that. 140 00:12:16,344 --> 00:12:20,261 I like the moment that he realizes that he's a fucking monster, 141 00:12:20,435 --> 00:12:23,351 and that he's been reanimated and forced to live. 142 00:12:23,525 --> 00:12:25,919 That's how we feel, forced to live. 143 00:12:26,484 --> 00:12:29,270 And then, of course, Chaney Jr. did The Wolf Man. 144 00:12:29,444 --> 00:12:33,535 And so, it was this wonderful chain of horror films 145 00:12:33,709 --> 00:12:38,192 that captured the imagination of film fans around the world. 146 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:41,108 When Gramps would talk about The Wolf Man, 147 00:12:41,282 --> 00:12:44,894 or roles that he would play, I always thought they were so cool 148 00:12:45,068 --> 00:12:46,983 because he was such a wonderful storyteller. 149 00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:48,898 People asked him, "What was your favorite role?" 150 00:12:49,072 --> 00:12:50,900 And of course, I think The Wolf Man 151 00:12:51,074 --> 00:12:53,250 has to come first for me personally, 152 00:12:53,424 --> 00:12:57,124 It was a role meant for my grandfather to make. 153 00:12:57,298 --> 00:13:01,302 My favorites by far, if anybody knows me, it's the Universal Monsters. 154 00:13:01,476 --> 00:13:02,956 That's my whole life. 155 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:05,523 Dracula, Frankenstein, Invisible Man, 156 00:13:05,697 --> 00:13:10,093 The Mummy, Creature, Wolf Man. I love those series. 157 00:13:10,267 --> 00:13:14,097 But I loved all the classic, uh, Universal Monster movies that I saw. 158 00:13:14,271 --> 00:13:16,186 I love the Creature from the Black Lagoon. 159 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,188 Love the giant monster movies. 160 00:13:18,362 --> 00:13:21,191 They're awesome. Tarantula,that kind of thing. 161 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:25,369 I, at first, really didn't know what to make of horror movies. 162 00:13:25,543 --> 00:13:28,895 I was very frightened. But in later years, 163 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:33,900 I've got to really enjoy the '50s creature movies. 164 00:13:34,074 --> 00:13:37,599 My favorite of that time was probably Them! 165 00:13:38,469 --> 00:13:39,949 You know, about giant ants. 166 00:13:40,123 --> 00:13:42,691 So I first started getting interested in horror 167 00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:46,608 because I really was engaged in those kind of creature movies 168 00:13:46,782 --> 00:13:49,306 and those kind of Atomic Age fear movies. 169 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,919 Are Japanese monster movies considered horror films? 170 00:13:53,093 --> 00:13:56,748 'Cause that's, that's, that's where my heart, true heart lies. 171 00:13:56,923 --> 00:14:00,187 It's like Godzilla Vs. King Kongand stuff. 172 00:14:00,361 --> 00:14:02,754 -[Woody] Yeah. -[Mike] Just all the, like, model type of scenes 173 00:14:02,929 --> 00:14:07,020 and guys in lizard suits, I love that stuff. 174 00:14:07,194 --> 00:14:09,936 [loud growling] 175 00:14:10,110 --> 00:14:12,939 With the evolution of teen culture in the 1950s, 176 00:14:13,113 --> 00:14:16,203 you had, for the first time, forms of entertainment 177 00:14:16,377 --> 00:14:18,509 that were unique to young people. 178 00:14:18,683 --> 00:14:23,297 And I don't think it was for almost 20 years or a generation after that, 179 00:14:23,471 --> 00:14:26,648 the people really realized the amount of room they had 180 00:14:26,822 --> 00:14:28,650 to spread out and express themselves. 181 00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:31,435 One of the things that also develops in the 1950s in the UK 182 00:14:31,609 --> 00:14:33,350 is the Hammer House of Horror. 183 00:14:33,524 --> 00:14:37,441 Nobody has quite mastered branding like Hammer did. 184 00:14:37,615 --> 00:14:40,880 Like, if you see Hammer House of Horror 185 00:14:43,926 --> 00:14:45,797 on a movie, you know what you're getting. 186 00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:47,538 [Tom] Curse Of Frankenstein, and Teenage Frankenstein, 187 00:14:47,712 --> 00:14:49,410 and I would watch them, of course, covering my face, 188 00:14:49,584 --> 00:14:51,934 but I had to see what Frankenstein looked like, you know. 189 00:14:52,108 --> 00:14:55,329 My introduction to horror came through Hammer. 190 00:14:55,503 --> 00:14:59,768 So that was my introduction, really, to Dracula and Frankenstein, 191 00:15:00,551 --> 00:15:02,989 and then kind of worked backwards 192 00:15:03,163 --> 00:15:07,428 discovering the, the classic Universal movies, um, subsequent to that. 193 00:15:07,602 --> 00:15:09,299 -[shower running] -[suspenseful music] 194 00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:11,214 [screaming] 195 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,390 You can't really talk about horror 196 00:15:13,564 --> 00:15:15,653 without talking about Hitchcock and Psycho. 197 00:15:15,827 --> 00:15:18,700 It helps set the paradigm for our subsequent obsession 198 00:15:18,874 --> 00:15:20,093 with serial killers in film. 199 00:15:20,267 --> 00:15:21,964 I always loved Hitchcock. 200 00:15:22,138 --> 00:15:24,575 I thought that his stuff was amazing 201 00:15:24,749 --> 00:15:27,056 because, you know, there was, uh, attention 202 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:31,539 to the, uh, just the whole story line that, you know... 203 00:15:31,713 --> 00:15:35,064 Like, the Bates Motel, you know, it was a creepy hotel. 204 00:15:35,238 --> 00:15:39,286 Dude's mom's dead, and, you know, he cross-dresses and kills people. 205 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:42,289 That's really cool when you can have a story that's that simple. 206 00:15:42,463 --> 00:15:45,770 They did such a good job in the early days of, mm, 207 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:49,252 you know, "Don't come if you have a problem with your heart," 208 00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:51,863 and these great gimmicks about that, you know, 209 00:15:52,038 --> 00:15:54,605 "There will be a nurse in attendance, and..." 210 00:15:54,779 --> 00:15:56,129 Of course, that sucked us in. 211 00:15:56,303 --> 00:15:58,479 You know, we wanted to go see that. 212 00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:01,656 They're coming to get you, Barbara. 213 00:16:01,830 --> 00:16:04,224 [Karina] Towards the tail end of the '60s, you have Night Of The Living Dead, 214 00:16:04,398 --> 00:16:06,139 and it's a terrifying movie. 215 00:16:06,313 --> 00:16:09,403 Not only because it introduces a new type of monster, 216 00:16:09,577 --> 00:16:14,799 but because it suggests that we as human beings, 217 00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:16,976 at some point, we'll lose agency, 218 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:18,716 we'll lose sentience. 219 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:21,371 Jesus Christ. It's, like, right in your face, like-- 220 00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:23,721 Which is not typical of a black and white movie. 221 00:16:23,895 --> 00:16:26,159 You just sort of, "Oh, it's black and white. It's probably going to be slow. 222 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:27,682 I've heard it's great, but we'll see." 223 00:16:27,856 --> 00:16:29,466 And then it just explodes. You know, 224 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,599 like, "Holy fuck." You know, and it's just, it's on. 225 00:16:31,773 --> 00:16:34,384 Zombies weren't very frightening 226 00:16:34,558 --> 00:16:36,212 until we made Night Of The Living Dead. 227 00:16:36,386 --> 00:16:38,432 You've lost a loved one, 228 00:16:38,606 --> 00:16:42,262 but now that loved one's out to get you, actually devour you. 229 00:16:42,436 --> 00:16:45,743 And if you get bitten by one, you can turn into one. 230 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:51,184 In a way, it combines the vampire myth and the zombie myth. 231 00:16:51,358 --> 00:16:53,490 We saw a lot of horror stories, 232 00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:55,971 like, during the, the war in Nam. 233 00:16:56,145 --> 00:16:58,147 It was a big time for horror films, 234 00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:01,672 and that all came out of that Nam period and our return from Nam. 235 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:04,066 [Rob] Blood and destruction on television had become so commonplace 236 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,937 that it couldn't help but make it into the films. 237 00:17:06,112 --> 00:17:08,549 And I think that had a profound effect 238 00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:12,944 on why horror gets so gory in the 1970s. 239 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,339 Because people have seen it in the real world. 240 00:17:16,513 --> 00:17:18,167 [Wednesday 13] My two favorite movies are 241 00:17:18,341 --> 00:17:19,951 Texas Chainsaw Massacre I and II. 242 00:17:20,126 --> 00:17:22,389 I just remember this scene in Texas Chainsaw 243 00:17:22,563 --> 00:17:24,130 when, when, uh, 244 00:17:24,782 --> 00:17:27,568 what I believe is Kurt or whatever is going into the house, 245 00:17:27,742 --> 00:17:30,179 and he just whacks him in the head as-- 246 00:17:30,353 --> 00:17:33,617 And he just falls. You see his legs kicking. Hits him again. 247 00:17:33,791 --> 00:17:36,577 And this, the slamming of that door was just like, 248 00:17:36,751 --> 00:17:40,189 "What the fuck was that?" 249 00:17:40,363 --> 00:17:42,931 [Gunnar] Leatherface and his situation are kind of emblematic 250 00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:45,760 of extreme elements in life, 251 00:17:45,934 --> 00:17:48,241 and that may be part of his appeal. 252 00:17:48,415 --> 00:17:52,462 In a way, Chainsaw Massacre is about the end of the world, 253 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:56,553 and I think that might be part of Leatherface 254 00:17:56,727 --> 00:18:00,731 and Chainsaw Massacre'sappeal in heavy metal. 255 00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:03,778 That it really is apocalyptic, 256 00:18:03,952 --> 00:18:06,520 and Leatherface is an apocalyptic character, 257 00:18:06,694 --> 00:18:10,263 and I think there, you begin to see an overlap 258 00:18:10,437 --> 00:18:12,700 in the interests of a lot of heavy metal music. 259 00:18:12,874 --> 00:18:15,877 [Nivek] The Exorcist. I was both kind of 260 00:18:16,051 --> 00:18:17,618 terrified by it and shocked by it, 261 00:18:17,792 --> 00:18:21,187 and, and, uh, moved, uh, disturbed, and compelled. 262 00:18:21,361 --> 00:18:23,580 Totally wanted to see more. 263 00:18:23,754 --> 00:18:26,670 Just the, the tone of it and the denigration 264 00:18:26,844 --> 00:18:29,238 of the priest by Regan and all of that. 265 00:18:29,412 --> 00:18:31,675 Just the way she looked, man. It was just fucked up. 266 00:18:31,849 --> 00:18:35,114 You know what I mean? And her voice, it was just, it was scary. 267 00:18:35,288 --> 00:18:37,203 I don't know. I think it scared everybody. 268 00:18:37,377 --> 00:18:39,509 [eerie scream] 269 00:18:39,683 --> 00:18:44,340 My mom took me to see the original Jaws when I was really young, 270 00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:47,822 and it scarred me for life. [chuckles] 271 00:18:47,996 --> 00:18:52,000 It traumatized me. I mean, I was f-- I was fucked because I-- 272 00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:55,830 Even in a pool, at that-- and when I was younger, I was, like, freaking out. 273 00:18:56,004 --> 00:18:58,006 "It's like a fucking pool. Like, what's gonna happen?" 274 00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,878 But I don't know. It's just weird the way it just did that to me. 275 00:19:01,052 --> 00:19:04,317 Like, that first scene when she goes out swimming in the night, 276 00:19:04,491 --> 00:19:06,145 yeah, that never left me. So that was a-- 277 00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:09,452 That's one fear that I still have. 278 00:19:09,626 --> 00:19:11,237 [Rob] The first VHS tape I ever had to have 279 00:19:11,411 --> 00:19:12,194 was Dawn Of The Dead, 280 00:19:12,368 --> 00:19:13,282 and I used to let it play 281 00:19:13,456 --> 00:19:14,849 over and over all day long. 282 00:19:15,023 --> 00:19:16,938 I must have watched it thousands of times. 283 00:19:17,112 --> 00:19:18,853 It was always on, 284 00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:21,638 and I don't know why that gave me such comfort, 285 00:19:21,812 --> 00:19:24,859 just having Dawn Of The Dead playing constantly, but it did. 286 00:19:25,033 --> 00:19:30,081 Dawn Of The Deadwas, you know, like, one of the big first splatter fest involving zombies. 287 00:19:30,256 --> 00:19:32,475 I mean, now, I mean, everything is zombies. 288 00:19:32,649 --> 00:19:35,130 This is-- Now we're in the zombie decade. 289 00:19:35,304 --> 00:19:37,698 Uh, a lot of it has to do with the number one show on television, 290 00:19:37,872 --> 00:19:40,614 Walking Dead, with my protégé, Greg Nicotero. 291 00:19:40,788 --> 00:19:44,835 So that, obviously, is an influence of my stuff. 292 00:19:45,009 --> 00:19:48,143 [Jeordie] Phantasm.The first one really left an impression on me. 293 00:19:48,317 --> 00:19:50,319 But the part that scared me the most, 294 00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:52,800 'cause I didn't, um, understand, 295 00:19:52,974 --> 00:19:55,063 and when it was explained to me, it, like, kind of hit home. 296 00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:56,978 The ball goes in the guy's forehead, 297 00:19:57,152 --> 00:19:58,936 and it drills in, and he falls down. 298 00:19:59,110 --> 00:20:01,939 I mean, he's obviously dead. But they show him that he pees. 299 00:20:03,245 --> 00:20:06,117 And then I asked, like, "Why is he peeing?" 300 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:08,511 He said, "Well, you release your bowels after you die." 301 00:20:09,686 --> 00:20:13,473 I was like, "Well, I'm gonna shit my pants when, when I die." 302 00:20:13,647 --> 00:20:15,518 That's terrifying. That scared the bejesus out of me. 303 00:20:15,692 --> 00:20:17,955 That was just more evidence of actual death. 304 00:20:18,129 --> 00:20:20,567 The Omen.The first, um-- Both of them were really good, 305 00:20:20,741 --> 00:20:23,352 but I like the one with Gregory Peck and Lee Remick. 306 00:20:23,526 --> 00:20:26,268 I thought that the story was really well written 307 00:20:26,442 --> 00:20:31,012 and very, very scary and very evil and creepy. 308 00:20:31,186 --> 00:20:33,536 The Omen,that was the only one 309 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:36,931 that really made me have some, uh, nightmares 310 00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:39,150 as, uh, as far as I can remember. 311 00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:43,111 The, uh, connection with horror and myself 312 00:20:43,285 --> 00:20:46,201 really does start with Halloween,you know, 313 00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:49,030 in terms of any active interest in the genre. 314 00:20:49,204 --> 00:20:52,860 I don't think they had any idea how big Myers himself would be. 315 00:20:53,034 --> 00:20:55,428 That character has become pretty big. 316 00:20:55,602 --> 00:20:58,692 It's a hell of a franchise, and I'm proud to be a part of it. 317 00:20:58,866 --> 00:21:02,565 Michael Myers, uh, became a famous creature 318 00:21:02,739 --> 00:21:05,307 because he wore a mask, and because he was completely evil. 319 00:21:05,481 --> 00:21:06,917 He's really a simple character. 320 00:21:07,091 --> 00:21:09,659 He doesn't have much of a backstory 321 00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:11,357 to land the movies that I did. 322 00:21:11,531 --> 00:21:14,273 He is just a force of evil out to get you. 323 00:21:14,447 --> 00:21:18,364 The idea of an expressionless, blank, uh, human being 324 00:21:18,538 --> 00:21:20,931 is really pretty devastating. 325 00:21:21,105 --> 00:21:22,977 It is almost like, "What is he thinking? 326 00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:26,023 What's going on in that strange person's brain 327 00:21:26,197 --> 00:21:29,026 that we can't decipher, 'cause we can't look inside." 328 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,246 [Marky] Alien,when it came out, 329 00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:33,204 you didn't see much of the monster. 330 00:21:33,988 --> 00:21:36,904 But it was all the build up to it. 331 00:21:37,078 --> 00:21:39,167 And then landing on that planet, 332 00:21:39,341 --> 00:21:41,212 and then the Facehugger, 333 00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:43,432 that, that scared the shit out of me. 334 00:21:43,606 --> 00:21:45,652 The movie that affected me the most, 335 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:49,612 that I actually jumped out of my chair was Salem's Lot. 336 00:21:50,744 --> 00:21:53,312 And I'm watching it, and they keep talking about Mr. Barlow. 337 00:21:53,486 --> 00:21:56,271 Three quarters through the movie, you don't see Mr. Barlow, 338 00:21:56,445 --> 00:22:00,841 and then all of a sudden, the entire scream is Barlow. 339 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,062 And it's the most evil-looking vampire of all time. 340 00:22:05,236 --> 00:22:08,892 The '80s has to be possibly the greatest era of horror, 341 00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:13,723 because you have a lot of great minds working within the genre. 342 00:22:13,897 --> 00:22:18,554 You have amazing advances in special effects, which mean that you could-- 343 00:22:18,728 --> 00:22:22,732 Literally, something like The Thing,which is '82, 344 00:22:22,906 --> 00:22:27,128 shows stuff that people had never even imagined. 345 00:22:27,302 --> 00:22:31,088 Rob Bottin's effects were just so ahead of their time, 346 00:22:31,262 --> 00:22:34,657 and still to this day, probably the best practical makeup 347 00:22:34,831 --> 00:22:36,224 ever done in a movie. 348 00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:38,400 One scene I remember from my childhood was 349 00:22:38,574 --> 00:22:42,012 um, in The Thing,the thing is eating, um, the dogs, 350 00:22:42,186 --> 00:22:45,712 and to me, I, I saw that, and it was so horrifying 351 00:22:45,886 --> 00:22:48,802 as a child to see that kind of, you know, carnage. 352 00:22:48,976 --> 00:22:50,369 [Corey] The Shining,man. 353 00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:55,417 My God, that film is a lesson in isolation 354 00:22:55,896 --> 00:23:00,161 and how maddening your, your, your mind can go 355 00:23:00,335 --> 00:23:04,165 when you're just completely cut off from outside stimuli, you know, 356 00:23:04,339 --> 00:23:05,862 and you're left to your own devices 357 00:23:06,036 --> 00:23:08,604 in this fucking monstrous, 358 00:23:08,778 --> 00:23:12,086 basically just a fucking castle, you know. 359 00:23:12,956 --> 00:23:14,523 Anyone would go fucking mad. 360 00:23:14,697 --> 00:23:17,265 When they first realize, you know, that he's losing... 361 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:18,875 You first see it in the film. 362 00:23:19,049 --> 00:23:22,139 You know, he's, he's going, his mind is gone. 363 00:23:22,313 --> 00:23:24,054 [chuckles] You know, and it's like he's sitting there. 364 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:26,143 -And then she starts thumbing-- -That's too much like real life. 365 00:23:26,317 --> 00:23:28,668 Thumbing through the shit, you know. [chuckles] 366 00:23:28,842 --> 00:23:31,627 "All work and no play," like, you know, the big stack, and you're like, 367 00:23:31,801 --> 00:23:35,283 "Oh, it's on now, man," you know. [laughs] 368 00:23:35,457 --> 00:23:37,372 'Cause that is-- it has to be one of the greatest movies 369 00:23:37,546 --> 00:23:39,156 ever made from every aspect. 370 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:40,375 You know, the actors, and the casting, 371 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:41,637 and the photo and everything. 372 00:23:41,811 --> 00:23:43,422 -Yeah. -But still I meet people, 373 00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:45,728 when people don't dig it, I find it hard to trust them. 374 00:23:45,902 --> 00:23:47,600 Yeah. [laughs] 375 00:23:47,774 --> 00:23:49,471 [Danny] The Shininghas this cult following, 376 00:23:49,645 --> 00:23:50,820 which is great. 377 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:52,953 I feel fortunate to have been in it. 378 00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:55,521 And, uh, I guess, my guess would be that 379 00:23:55,695 --> 00:23:58,480 it was probably playing on cable when all those guys were kids. 380 00:23:58,654 --> 00:24:03,180 [laughs] And so, they were probably frightened by it like many other people. 381 00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:05,531 The third Omenmovie, when he's in the, in the room 382 00:24:05,705 --> 00:24:07,228 with the statue of Jesus. 383 00:24:08,229 --> 00:24:11,450 "Show man instead the raptures of Thy kingdom." Oh, it's so... 384 00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:13,843 Ooh, when he puts his hands on the thing, and it bleeds, 385 00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,890 and they make the, the blood, you know, symbolize Jesus crying, whatever. 386 00:24:17,368 --> 00:24:20,371 Oh, I would have just let him wi-- the anti-Christ win. 387 00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:22,591 [Richard] Halloween III, Season Of The Witch. 388 00:24:22,765 --> 00:24:24,027 And people either love it or hate it 389 00:24:24,201 --> 00:24:25,594 because it doesn't have Michael Myers. 390 00:24:25,768 --> 00:24:27,335 But that didn't bother me at all 391 00:24:27,509 --> 00:24:28,989 when I was a kid, I was so young, 392 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,252 I wasn't kind of expecting to see Michael Myers. 393 00:24:31,426 --> 00:24:33,515 And I look at it as a separate movie. 394 00:24:33,689 --> 00:24:35,386 As a movie, a standalone movie. 395 00:24:35,561 --> 00:24:37,084 Halloween IIIis incredible. 396 00:24:37,258 --> 00:24:39,739 And I always liked it as a standalone movie. 397 00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:42,481 Not because I was the assassin ripping people's heads off 398 00:24:42,655 --> 00:24:44,570 mind you, but, anyway... [chuckles] 399 00:24:44,744 --> 00:24:48,051 Evil Dead Part I,Sam Raimi. 400 00:24:49,531 --> 00:24:50,967 Atmosphere, 401 00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:53,100 attitude, 402 00:24:53,274 --> 00:24:55,885 gore, soundtrack, 403 00:24:56,059 --> 00:24:58,366 hands down, got to be... 404 00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:05,504 ...the The Black Rainbow of horror. 405 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:09,986 To me, the real, the real classics, 406 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,554 the ones that came out, like that Basket Case, 407 00:25:12,728 --> 00:25:15,818 my friends and I still talk about Belial to this day. 408 00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:18,734 And when it was cool, then you could show the girls to get them scared. 409 00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:21,041 And then plus, still, you went through the classics, you know, 410 00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:23,130 all the Friday the 13th and that sort of thing. 411 00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:26,263 People wanted to see violence and blood, 412 00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:28,614 and the people that were bad, 413 00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:32,095 that were having premarital sex, and drinking, 414 00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:35,795 and smoking pot or whatever die. 415 00:25:35,969 --> 00:25:39,581 As soon as they say, "Jason," everybody knows the hockey mask. 416 00:25:39,755 --> 00:25:44,717 I don't think that was expected, uh, when part one came out, part two, part three, 417 00:25:44,891 --> 00:25:48,982 but when the first person, which was Richard, that donned the hockey mask, 418 00:25:49,156 --> 00:25:51,288 I think it was just one of those things that took off. 419 00:25:51,462 --> 00:25:54,422 This is a character that had six movies 420 00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:58,557 uh, before I ever got involved, 421 00:25:58,731 --> 00:26:01,472 and so everybody knew the character's name around the world. 422 00:26:02,038 --> 00:26:04,780 It was almost like each successive movie 423 00:26:05,389 --> 00:26:07,522 had to do honor to the previous ones 424 00:26:07,696 --> 00:26:12,788 by coming up with inventive, crazy, over-the-top kills. 425 00:26:12,962 --> 00:26:15,574 People are still looking back saying, "Well, that's Leatherface. 426 00:26:15,748 --> 00:26:20,100 That's Jason, Michael Myers, and Freddie, of course." 427 00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:23,886 One of my favorite movies is the Nightmare On Elm Street, the first one. 428 00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:27,542 I still get scared of that fucking movie. It's, that was so awesome. 429 00:26:27,716 --> 00:26:31,502 The first one was actually the most interesting for me. 430 00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:33,548 Just the dynamics of the film, 431 00:26:33,722 --> 00:26:38,335 of this whole town keeping a secret, this guilt. 432 00:26:38,901 --> 00:26:43,253 That kind of was like a representation of humanity, uh, 433 00:26:43,427 --> 00:26:46,430 keeping secrets and not letting certain things out. 434 00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:49,520 I think there's a big reputation of that and how it can come back 435 00:26:49,695 --> 00:26:53,176 to have these repercussions on, on them. 436 00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:54,874 You're a vampire, Michael. 437 00:26:55,048 --> 00:26:57,180 My own brother. A goddamn shit-sucking vampire. 438 00:26:57,354 --> 00:27:01,315 Lost Boysis one of my all-time favorites movies ever. 439 00:27:01,489 --> 00:27:04,753 And the connection between rock and roll, 440 00:27:04,927 --> 00:27:07,626 long-haired dudes, leather dudes, 441 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,411 hot chicks, great music, 442 00:27:10,585 --> 00:27:12,413 and killing people because you have to 443 00:27:12,587 --> 00:27:15,459 'cause you're a vampire in beautiful California. 444 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:19,028 That was, like, one of the first ones that really made it cool and young, 445 00:27:19,202 --> 00:27:21,291 uh, with, with the, with vampires. 446 00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:23,337 I'm really fond of a movie called Prince Of Darkness. 447 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:25,339 This is, like, tremendous. 448 00:27:25,513 --> 00:27:27,036 That ending has to be one of my most 449 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:28,472 favorite endings in the world. 450 00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:31,345 I recommend that movie highly. 451 00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:33,913 It scared me, and I thought about it for a while. 452 00:27:34,087 --> 00:27:36,002 John Carpenter and I were good friends. 453 00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:39,570 And I said, "I wanna come down and watch you do some of the filming." 454 00:27:39,745 --> 00:27:41,398 And he says, "Okay, yeah, just come on down." 455 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,618 I put Alice in Prince Of Darkness 456 00:27:43,792 --> 00:27:45,533 basically because he showed up. 457 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,666 I said, "Oh, here. Get in here." 458 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,146 He says, "You know that thing you do with the mic stand, 459 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,107 where you stick it through the guy on stage and it comes out the other end? 460 00:27:54,281 --> 00:27:55,761 "Could we do that with a bicycle through this guy?" 461 00:27:55,935 --> 00:27:57,284 And I went, "Sure." 462 00:27:57,458 --> 00:28:00,461 Next thing I know, now, I'm in the movie. 463 00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:03,290 It was a lot of fun to work with him. He's a great guy. 464 00:28:04,073 --> 00:28:05,814 Hellraiseris another massive great film, 465 00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:07,598 and I remember watching that for the first time 466 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,731 and being totally blown away with it. 467 00:28:09,905 --> 00:28:11,951 And it had this kind of pornography to it. 468 00:28:12,125 --> 00:28:13,604 Especially the second one as well. They took it 469 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,345 a little stage further in the second one. 470 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,914 And I think it was, uh, sort of S-M, bondage, 471 00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:22,004 demonic, dark fantasy, I guess. 472 00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:24,528 There is nothing like it, 473 00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:27,140 I don't think, anywhere else in horror movies. 474 00:28:27,314 --> 00:28:29,359 It's human. It's not human. 475 00:28:30,099 --> 00:28:32,362 And then there's this little matter 476 00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:35,322 of having a whole bunch of nails banged into your head, 477 00:28:35,496 --> 00:28:38,629 which sounds like, sounds like a crazy idea. 478 00:28:38,804 --> 00:28:40,980 Pet Sematary.Big film. 479 00:28:41,154 --> 00:28:44,331 I remember very, very clearly when, you know, it sort of came out 480 00:28:44,505 --> 00:28:47,508 and, and how it was spoken about 481 00:28:47,682 --> 00:28:51,381 amongst the, the friends that I had that were allowed to sort of watch. 482 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:53,688 I mean, we were eight years old at that point, 483 00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:56,343 So it was like, "Have you seen Pet Sematary? 484 00:28:56,517 --> 00:28:59,955 "It's like the, the most frightening film ever." 485 00:29:00,129 --> 00:29:02,915 That scene in Pet Sematary with the, the sister 486 00:29:03,089 --> 00:29:05,744 who's got spinal meningitis, that's a real thing. 487 00:29:05,918 --> 00:29:08,747 And you watch that and, you know, you get, like, goose-- I get goosebumps 488 00:29:08,921 --> 00:29:10,749 even thinking about it, 'cause that's this classic scene of that movie. 489 00:29:11,314 --> 00:29:12,315 Terrifying, you know. 490 00:29:12,489 --> 00:29:14,927 Stephen King is a Ramones fan, 491 00:29:15,101 --> 00:29:19,061 and, uh, we did the video, "Pet Sematary," 492 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,629 where me, Joey, and the rest of the band 493 00:29:22,586 --> 00:29:25,807 are, uh, going down into the grave. 494 00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:27,853 Dee Dee decided to write the song, 495 00:29:28,027 --> 00:29:29,158 and then it ended up in the movies. 496 00:29:29,332 --> 00:29:30,899 So did "Sheena Is a Punk Rocker." 497 00:29:31,073 --> 00:29:33,293 In the truck while the guy's driving, 498 00:29:33,467 --> 00:29:35,991 and then the baby comes out on the highway and... 499 00:29:36,165 --> 00:29:39,603 No! 500 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,084 Once White Zombie got-- started going, it was starting to get from records, 501 00:29:42,258 --> 00:29:44,043 and there was money to be had, 502 00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:46,175 I started directing the music videos, 503 00:29:46,349 --> 00:29:50,571 and I, "Okay, okay. This will be my sort of in." 504 00:29:50,745 --> 00:29:53,617 So, when the opportunity came up to make a film, 505 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,924 which was House Of 1000 Corpses, it was like... 506 00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:57,534 That's why that movie, of all my movies, 507 00:29:57,708 --> 00:30:00,233 has the most elements of, like, music video. 508 00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:03,236 He had this little movie called House Of 1000 Corpses 509 00:30:03,410 --> 00:30:05,760 that had been green-lit by Universal Studios. 510 00:30:06,456 --> 00:30:09,546 And he asked me if I wanted to play, uh, this character, Otis Driftwood. 511 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,244 And I said, "Yeah." 512 00:30:11,418 --> 00:30:13,376 And then, of course, that then, you know, 513 00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:17,032 got refined and amplified in Devil's Rejects. 514 00:30:17,206 --> 00:30:19,121 Devil's Rejects, still such a killer movie. 515 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:22,124 And so glad Sid Haig was introduced to the world again 516 00:30:22,298 --> 00:30:24,387 as Captain Spaulding character. Maybe... 517 00:30:25,345 --> 00:30:26,999 Probably the coolest character to come out 518 00:30:27,173 --> 00:30:29,392 and I really, like, since the old guys. 519 00:30:29,566 --> 00:30:32,918 I see how people 520 00:30:33,092 --> 00:30:36,138 have been affected by what it is that I do, 521 00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:39,011 and it's, it's, it's very flattering. 522 00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:43,711 Captain Spaulding triggered the rebellious nature of people 523 00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:47,933 because he just, Spaulding just does not give a shit, okay? 524 00:30:48,411 --> 00:30:51,066 And that is kind of the attitude that goes along 525 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,287 with metal and horror, 526 00:30:54,461 --> 00:30:58,160 is like, "You know, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. 527 00:30:58,334 --> 00:31:00,989 If you don't like it, tough shit, okay?" 528 00:31:01,163 --> 00:31:03,078 I think what makes effective horror is that 529 00:31:03,252 --> 00:31:06,429 it registers the anxiety of the humans that are watching them. 530 00:31:06,603 --> 00:31:08,214 That's what horror does best. 531 00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:09,737 It makes meaning in the same way 532 00:31:09,911 --> 00:31:12,522 melodrama and great opera makes meaning. 533 00:31:12,696 --> 00:31:15,786 It thrives on humans' anxiety. 534 00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:17,005 Horror films, 535 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:20,574 politically, philosophically, 536 00:31:20,748 --> 00:31:25,709 emotionally, psychologically, spiritually, 537 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:28,930 depending on the film and the person, 538 00:31:29,104 --> 00:31:32,238 there is a horror film that has affected them 539 00:31:32,412 --> 00:31:35,371 and never, ever left their psyche. 540 00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:38,418 And no other field does that. 541 00:31:39,288 --> 00:31:42,683 And there you have a little history of the art of horror. 542 00:31:42,857 --> 00:31:44,815 We've heard from many heavy metal artists 543 00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:47,644 as they shared with us their favorite horror films. 544 00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:49,908 Let's take a step back and find out 545 00:31:50,778 --> 00:31:54,390 when their obsession with the genre first began. 546 00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:59,308 On Saturday, you and your buddies would go to the east town, 547 00:31:59,482 --> 00:32:01,702 and Mom would drop you off in the morning, 548 00:32:01,876 --> 00:32:04,096 and it would be It Came From Outer Space 549 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:05,836 and The Brain That Wouldn't Die. 550 00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:08,839 And that was the rite of passage. 551 00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:11,146 That's how you, that, we grew up on those movies. 552 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,367 The first, uh, monster movie that I saw was 553 00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:17,587 7th Voyage Of Sinbad, uh, with the cyclops. 554 00:32:18,588 --> 00:32:22,636 Every time I'd wake up, I think he'd be, uh, out my window 555 00:32:23,202 --> 00:32:25,508 ready to just, you know, put his head through it. 556 00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:28,903 It was movies like that that really, uh, 557 00:32:29,077 --> 00:32:32,080 left an impression in, in me as a young boy. 558 00:32:32,254 --> 00:32:35,040 When you are a 10-year-old, you have an 11-year-old friend 559 00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:38,304 who has a 12-year-old friend that has a 13-year-old, so, so on and so on, 560 00:32:38,478 --> 00:32:41,524 from that 18-year-old that had Cannibal Holocaust, you know, so... [chuckles] 561 00:32:42,308 --> 00:32:44,005 The first-- Uh, no, I didn't see that. I didn't want to, 562 00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:45,876 but you know the, the whole principle. 563 00:32:46,051 --> 00:32:48,662 I got introduced to weird shit too early. 564 00:32:48,836 --> 00:32:53,188 They used to have big, giant, like, kind of coffee table books about horror movies, 565 00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:55,930 and I, I would always ask for those for Christmas, you know. 566 00:32:56,104 --> 00:32:59,151 And I subscribed to Famous Monstersmagazine, Forrest Ackerman. 567 00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:03,416 Before I knew anything else, I was always really, really, really into horror movies. 568 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:08,551 I think as a kid, we all get excited about Halloween 569 00:33:08,725 --> 00:33:10,814 and, and the different types of monsters 570 00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:12,512 and watching cartoons and stuff. 571 00:33:12,686 --> 00:33:15,645 We kind of graduated into stuff like, you know, 572 00:33:15,819 --> 00:33:19,214 watching Dracula, the Wolf Man, Frankenstein, 573 00:33:19,388 --> 00:33:21,738 The Mummy, the Creature Of Black Lagoon. 574 00:33:21,912 --> 00:33:24,002 You know, all these classic flicks. 575 00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:26,047 Strangely enough, when I was in, like, second grade or something, 576 00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:28,484 they brought in a, the big reels and showed us 577 00:33:28,658 --> 00:33:31,835 Phantom Of The Opera, the silent version, which seems like an odd thing. 578 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:33,620 It was very exciting, but it seemed like, 579 00:33:33,794 --> 00:33:35,361 seems like an odd movie for a bunch of second graders. 580 00:33:35,535 --> 00:33:37,363 My dad used to call it the Super Saturday, 581 00:33:37,537 --> 00:33:39,104 and I was like, "Well, how many days of Super Saturday?" 582 00:33:39,278 --> 00:33:41,976 He's like, "Two more days," and I'm like, "Yes." 583 00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:47,460 It was just all this, just almost like overload of cartoons 584 00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:50,898 and the Groovie Goolies were on. I was obsessed with that show. 585 00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:54,728 It didn't seem that different to me, the Bugs Bunny or the Frankenstein. Like, 586 00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:57,557 it really was a natural kind of thing, you know. 587 00:33:57,731 --> 00:34:00,864 So, uh, that's really was the monsters in Addams Family. 588 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,128 Like, that's really kind of where, where it started. 589 00:34:03,302 --> 00:34:04,912 I was raised in foster homes as a kid. 590 00:34:05,086 --> 00:34:06,653 There was a little TV in the living room, 591 00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:09,047 and on Saturday nights, there was this show, 592 00:34:09,221 --> 00:34:11,223 and the show was called Jeepers Creepers. 593 00:34:11,397 --> 00:34:14,095 And it showed all these, the really bad, you know, 594 00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:16,489 Plan 9 From Outer Space, you know. 595 00:34:16,663 --> 00:34:18,012 It's a good way to dump the foster kids. 596 00:34:18,186 --> 00:34:19,709 We just watched monster movies all day. 597 00:34:19,883 --> 00:34:21,929 I remember from a very early age 598 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:24,540 watching Chiller Theatre and Creature Features, 599 00:34:24,714 --> 00:34:27,239 which were, like, on Channel 5 600 00:34:27,413 --> 00:34:29,545 and/or Channel 11 on Saturday mornings. 601 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,332 So, of course, like most kids, I was watching cartoons on Saturdays, 602 00:34:33,506 --> 00:34:35,508 but I was also watching horror movies, 603 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:37,597 uh, because my mom did. 604 00:34:37,771 --> 00:34:39,468 My mom loved horror movies since she was little. 605 00:34:39,642 --> 00:34:44,386 Uh, when I was small, I mean, probably four or five, 606 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,910 I was, uh, we would watch Creature Features 607 00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:50,827 and, um, Chiller Theatre with the fucking, the hand. 608 00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:53,265 I think it had six fingers. We always tried to count it. 609 00:34:53,917 --> 00:34:55,745 Sometimes even The 4:30 Movie. Remember that? 610 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,096 Then they would have, like, Dracula 611 00:34:58,270 --> 00:35:00,228 on The 4:30 Movie, or Frankenstein. 612 00:35:00,402 --> 00:35:02,926 We build all those Aurora models. 613 00:35:03,536 --> 00:35:07,105 Like crazy. I must have built five of each of them, you know. 614 00:35:07,279 --> 00:35:09,281 That's-- just loved that shit. 615 00:35:09,455 --> 00:35:11,631 They had this TV show called Ghost Host Theatre. 616 00:35:11,805 --> 00:35:16,897 I believe it came on somewhere 10:00-ish to, like, 4:00-ish, 617 00:35:17,071 --> 00:35:19,421 and it would play, like, two to three horror movies. 618 00:35:19,595 --> 00:35:21,554 I remember a few times they played, like, Godzilla, you know, 619 00:35:21,728 --> 00:35:23,947 then The Blob, and we used to just watch them. 620 00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:26,472 And that made me wanna watch more movies. 621 00:35:26,646 --> 00:35:31,216 They had this thing called the Sunday Morning Movie, 622 00:35:31,390 --> 00:35:33,870 that mixed with Twilight Zone 623 00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:38,048 mixed with Outer Limits mixed with Night Gallery. 624 00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:40,660 That was a lot of ammo to throw at a child, 625 00:35:40,834 --> 00:35:43,271 and, and, uh, uh, 626 00:35:43,445 --> 00:35:45,534 I, I adored it, I loved it. 627 00:35:45,708 --> 00:35:48,276 I know that it must have been when I was around three, 628 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,323 because I remember it was our in our old apartment. 629 00:35:51,497 --> 00:35:54,935 I know that we saw Funhouse. I was so afraid. 630 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:57,590 I mean, there's this, like, robotic clown 631 00:35:57,764 --> 00:36:00,245 that comes through a tunnel with, like, a corpse. 632 00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:04,118 That, that's, that is still, like, stuck with me forever. 633 00:36:04,292 --> 00:36:07,077 I, I think I took chances in horror when I was really young. 634 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:08,992 I started watching Faces Of Death, 635 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:10,951 and the reality ones that you see 636 00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:13,345 people getting chopped up, shit like that. 637 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:16,783 I don't know how the fuck I got a hold of them, but it kind of warped me. 638 00:36:16,957 --> 00:36:18,437 [chuckles] 639 00:36:18,611 --> 00:36:19,960 But that's what I liked watching. 640 00:36:20,134 --> 00:36:22,267 My dad took us to see Poltergeist. 641 00:36:22,441 --> 00:36:26,009 I was, like, maybe six or something when that movie came out, 642 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,795 and, uh, he took us to see it 'cause we just asked him to. 643 00:36:28,969 --> 00:36:30,275 And he was like, "Okay." 644 00:36:30,449 --> 00:36:32,146 He wasn't like, "This is inappropriate 645 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,627 for a six-year-old at all." [chuckles] 646 00:36:34,801 --> 00:36:37,673 I would stay up late in my, um, in my bedroom, 647 00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:40,023 and I had a tiny black and white television, you know, 648 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:43,549 that you had to, that I'd get the reception and to stay up late and watch. 649 00:36:44,114 --> 00:36:47,988 They would show trailers for Friday The 13th I and II. 650 00:36:48,162 --> 00:36:50,817 And the fact that it was, the TV was in black and white, 651 00:36:50,991 --> 00:36:52,775 and, and, and gritty and grainy 652 00:36:53,341 --> 00:36:54,951 just made it even more scary. 653 00:36:55,125 --> 00:36:56,605 To me, this was actually more, 654 00:36:56,779 --> 00:36:58,477 it seemed more of a documentary, 655 00:36:58,651 --> 00:37:00,783 'cause I didn't know that movies didn't happen. 656 00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:03,525 You know, I just figured people had cameras, 657 00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:05,875 and they just happened to be around 658 00:37:06,049 --> 00:37:07,399 when all this bad stuff was happening. 659 00:37:07,573 --> 00:37:09,401 There were these orange books, 660 00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:10,967 and they were the monster books, 661 00:37:11,141 --> 00:37:12,882 like, you know, Frankenstein, Dracula, 662 00:37:13,056 --> 00:37:16,321 Invisible man, uh, Wolf Man, King Kong, 663 00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:20,107 and, and it was made by this company called Crestwood. 664 00:37:20,281 --> 00:37:23,371 And I loved these books. I would check them out every single day. 665 00:37:23,545 --> 00:37:25,417 Check them out every day, every day. 666 00:37:25,591 --> 00:37:27,114 And I, I just worshipped these books. 667 00:37:27,288 --> 00:37:28,768 So my mom got me the whole set. 668 00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:33,251 And, um, that's what really got me into it at such a young age. 669 00:37:33,425 --> 00:37:36,645 I was around, uh, eight years old, and I saw, um, 670 00:37:36,819 --> 00:37:39,431 one of the first Draculafilms in a walk-in theater. 671 00:37:39,605 --> 00:37:41,520 We went shopping with my mom or something. 672 00:37:41,694 --> 00:37:43,304 She dropped us off at the theater. 673 00:37:43,478 --> 00:37:45,611 We walked in there, and Christopher Lee comes 674 00:37:45,785 --> 00:37:48,440 rising out of the carpet, and we went, "Aah!" 675 00:37:48,614 --> 00:37:51,617 It just was, just, just that opening scene where I was, like, horrified. 676 00:37:51,791 --> 00:37:55,229 It must have been about 1981 or 1982. 677 00:37:55,403 --> 00:37:58,928 We went to my Aunt Donna's house to watch American Werewolf In London. 678 00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:01,366 My dad was like, "You're gonna love this movie. I read about it. 679 00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:03,324 It's supposed to be this cool werewolf movie." 680 00:38:03,498 --> 00:38:05,892 And, of course, the transformation scene 681 00:38:06,066 --> 00:38:08,286 just blew my mind. It was the greatest thing ever. 682 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:13,291 The recurring dream sequences were, were literally truly terrifying. 683 00:38:13,465 --> 00:38:16,424 Especially with the Nazi werewolves that burst into the living room 684 00:38:16,598 --> 00:38:19,819 and, like, you know, just totally gunned down the entire family. 685 00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:22,343 Really, really freaked me out. 686 00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:25,041 You know, that's what began my love affair with horror was that. 687 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:28,871 I think that was the defining moment. It was like riding, you know, 688 00:38:29,045 --> 00:38:30,569 a dangerous switchback railway. 689 00:38:30,743 --> 00:38:33,572 It was like, "Wow, I wanna go again." 690 00:38:33,746 --> 00:38:37,706 Started watching Dark Shadows when I was probably about three. 691 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,926 It was a serial, like a soap opera, 692 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,101 like General Hospital. 693 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,669 It ran from '66 to '71, 694 00:38:43,843 --> 00:38:46,541 and it was about a vampire named Barnabas Collins. 695 00:38:46,715 --> 00:38:48,978 So I started watching horror, and my mother watched it, 696 00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:52,547 and so probably, yeah, about three or four years old. 697 00:38:53,287 --> 00:38:56,464 I was probably about, uh, 698 00:38:56,638 --> 00:38:58,423 I'm gonna say five or six, 699 00:38:58,597 --> 00:39:01,774 and my mom took me to see Buck Rogers. 700 00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:04,037 Like, you know the movie with, uh, with Gil Gerard, right? 701 00:39:04,211 --> 00:39:06,866 Like the, the disco sci-fi flick. 702 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,477 My mom was like, "Well, you know, he liked Star Wars. 703 00:39:09,651 --> 00:39:11,044 Maybe he'll like this, you know." 704 00:39:11,218 --> 00:39:13,481 The trailer for the original Halloween 705 00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:15,309 was attached to the movie, 706 00:39:15,483 --> 00:39:17,833 and I was so transfixed. 707 00:39:18,878 --> 00:39:19,966 That was it for me. 708 00:39:20,706 --> 00:39:25,406 Whether it is literature, painting, or film, 709 00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,930 there is always a dark side to art. 710 00:39:28,801 --> 00:39:32,892 Let us take a look at the darker side of music. 711 00:39:33,545 --> 00:39:36,635 Let us explore the history of metal. 712 00:39:38,463 --> 00:39:40,769 Music, right? I mean, music was around forever. 713 00:39:40,943 --> 00:39:43,990 But the origins of metal are from the blues. 714 00:39:44,164 --> 00:39:49,430 Robert Johnson could get credited for inventing rock and roll. 715 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:51,650 When you see in the '60s and '70s, 716 00:39:51,824 --> 00:39:55,305 the emergence of progressive rock and heavy metal. 717 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,307 Things were louder, things were more dangerous. 718 00:39:57,482 --> 00:40:00,006 Metal is under the rock umbrella, 719 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:04,489 but metal, metal, metal started with Black Sabbath. 720 00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:06,142 [Brian] Black Sabbath when they first started 721 00:40:06,316 --> 00:40:07,970 was a band called Earth, and they were a blues band, 722 00:40:08,144 --> 00:40:09,929 and they kind of took that, even Led Zeppelin as well, 723 00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:12,888 they kind of took those themes and that style of music, 724 00:40:13,062 --> 00:40:16,631 and put it into this different kind of musical genre. 725 00:40:16,805 --> 00:40:19,286 [Eddie] The song "Black Sabbath," the album Black Sabbath. 726 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:21,027 There was stuff that was heavy music before that, 727 00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:24,987 but to me, that's the official birth of heavy metal. 728 00:40:25,161 --> 00:40:29,296 They fused horror and, and heavy music together. 729 00:40:29,470 --> 00:40:32,081 You know, Black Sabbath was a Boris Karloff film, right? 730 00:40:32,255 --> 00:40:34,432 You know, that's where they got the name, from the film, 731 00:40:34,606 --> 00:40:37,435 and they combined it with heavy music, and that's how heavy metal was born. 732 00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:39,001 Black Sabbathwas playing in a movie theater. 733 00:40:39,175 --> 00:40:40,220 There was a line around the block, 734 00:40:40,394 --> 00:40:41,743 and they were all looking like, 735 00:40:41,917 --> 00:40:43,658 "People wanna be scared. Look at that line." 736 00:40:43,832 --> 00:40:45,965 Let's change it. And they got the name from the movie. 737 00:40:46,139 --> 00:40:48,271 You know, that's when they made a turn from Earth to Black Sabbath. 738 00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:50,448 [Corey] Anybody who says that Black Sabbath didn't fucking 739 00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:52,667 invent heavy metal is a fucking idiot. 740 00:40:52,841 --> 00:40:55,148 You shut your mouth, dick bags. 741 00:40:55,844 --> 00:40:58,760 I'll give credit where credit is due to bands who have helped, 742 00:40:59,282 --> 00:41:01,371 but Black Sabbath set the template. 743 00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:02,808 After Black Sabbath, I mean, 744 00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:05,201 there was bands like Judas Priest. 745 00:41:05,375 --> 00:41:07,639 You know, little later, Iron Maiden. 746 00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:10,076 I mean, these bands took 747 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:13,601 what Sabbath started doing and made it faster. 748 00:41:13,775 --> 00:41:15,342 I mean, you can say metal to somebody, 749 00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:18,606 and it could mean anything from Poison and Bon Jovi 750 00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:23,219 to Carcass to Slayer to Metallica to Guns N' Roses. 751 00:41:23,393 --> 00:41:25,700 You had the birth of thrash. You had the influence, I think, 752 00:41:25,874 --> 00:41:27,441 of punk and hardcore on it as well. 753 00:41:27,615 --> 00:41:29,051 That sort of meshed in a little bit. 754 00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:32,141 And now you have probably 20 sub-genres of it, 755 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,970 that it means something different to so many different people. 756 00:41:35,144 --> 00:41:36,885 So, I think it's just, it's just had 757 00:41:37,059 --> 00:41:39,105 so many bastard children along the way. 758 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,977 Isn't history fascinating? 759 00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:45,459 Now that you've learned a little history of metal and horror, 760 00:41:46,286 --> 00:41:49,985 let us see how horror influenced the musicians. 761 00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:52,858 Let the convergence begin. 762 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,775 In the '50s and early '60, there were actually, uh, 763 00:41:56,949 --> 00:42:00,387 there were all kind of, like, minor hits, like novelty rock things, 764 00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:02,607 but they were actually quite a bit of them. 765 00:42:02,781 --> 00:42:05,392 Started then. It's where the horror rock started. 766 00:42:05,566 --> 00:42:08,047 I guess the first one that really got me was 767 00:42:08,221 --> 00:42:11,224 was Screamin' Jay Hawkins, who had wrote "I Put A Spell On You." 768 00:42:11,398 --> 00:42:13,922 Bryan Ferry's done it. Marilyn Manson's done it. 769 00:42:14,096 --> 00:42:16,229 It will be done a hundred more times. 770 00:42:16,403 --> 00:42:18,797 [Doug] Screaming Lord Sutch, I knew him as the guy 771 00:42:18,971 --> 00:42:21,408 who appeared in photographs with the toilet seat around his neck. 772 00:42:21,582 --> 00:42:24,846 I met him on the top of a double-decker bus, 773 00:42:25,412 --> 00:42:28,981 and he impressed me as a very intelligent man 774 00:42:30,156 --> 00:42:33,072 who knew exactly how to market himself. 775 00:42:33,246 --> 00:42:34,987 [screams] 776 00:42:35,161 --> 00:42:37,032 I guess, as a music fan, a lot of the time, 777 00:42:37,206 --> 00:42:39,513 you kind of proceed in, in 778 00:42:40,166 --> 00:42:44,344 "What the fuck" moments when something new suddenly comes along, 779 00:42:44,518 --> 00:42:46,694 and I have a very fixed memory of that. 780 00:42:46,868 --> 00:42:50,655 Watching Top Of The Pops and on comes this 781 00:42:51,438 --> 00:42:54,006 creature with his head on fire, 782 00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:56,225 and I was absolutely mesmerized, 783 00:42:56,399 --> 00:43:00,055 and that was The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown. 784 00:43:00,229 --> 00:43:03,319 Although this shock that we were actually putting out there 785 00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:06,801 was to get beneath the daily level of the mind 786 00:43:06,975 --> 00:43:09,412 that every, you know, that numbs everybody. 787 00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:14,766 The education gives you that, that, uh, daily existence demands 788 00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:16,985 of what is there beneath that, 789 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:20,423 so that that was what, what it was about. 790 00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:23,818 So I made characters. One of the characters was the God of Hellfire. 791 00:43:23,992 --> 00:43:26,734 It was very shocking at that time. 792 00:43:28,214 --> 00:43:29,781 It isn't now. 793 00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:31,957 We did some shows together. It was kind of great. 794 00:43:32,131 --> 00:43:34,133 He had one of the best voices of anybody. 795 00:43:34,307 --> 00:43:36,396 He had the greatest range. 796 00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:38,964 You know, he could sing way up here 797 00:43:39,138 --> 00:43:41,662 and way down here like an operatic voice. 798 00:43:41,836 --> 00:43:43,708 So, I always really liked Arthur Brown. 799 00:43:43,882 --> 00:43:45,884 Arthur, Arthur Brown was, was great. 800 00:43:46,058 --> 00:43:48,234 Alice, yeah, you know, I could see that. 801 00:43:48,408 --> 00:43:52,020 And I could see that also, he took it in his own direction 802 00:43:52,194 --> 00:43:54,022 and made something great out of it. 803 00:43:54,196 --> 00:43:56,503 I think Alice can take you to another place 804 00:43:56,677 --> 00:44:00,072 because of all the creepy, macabre kind of stuff. 805 00:44:00,246 --> 00:44:04,380 He had everything that I wanted 'cause I really wanted it to be horror influence. 806 00:44:04,554 --> 00:44:06,252 There was a darkness to the other bands, 807 00:44:06,426 --> 00:44:08,602 and it's kind of get the elements, 808 00:44:08,776 --> 00:44:11,692 but the Alice Cooper stuff, it's just, like, right there. 809 00:44:11,866 --> 00:44:14,739 You know, "Ballad of Dwight Fry," it's so right there. 810 00:44:14,913 --> 00:44:19,178 Alice Cooper, you know, is an iconic example of, of horror. 811 00:44:19,352 --> 00:44:21,702 His stage show is and always will be amazing. 812 00:44:21,876 --> 00:44:24,836 It's a, you know, a real-life horror show. 813 00:44:25,401 --> 00:44:28,404 Where everybody was Peter Pan, Alice needed to be Captain Hook. 814 00:44:29,188 --> 00:44:31,190 You know, you had so many rock heroes out there, 815 00:44:31,364 --> 00:44:32,800 and I kept going, "Where's the rock villains?" 816 00:44:33,453 --> 00:44:35,020 There really aren't any villains. 817 00:44:35,194 --> 00:44:39,067 So a rock audience, seeing a Broadway play, 818 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:42,375 fully blown up, but it's a horror show. 819 00:44:42,549 --> 00:44:44,769 And it's really well done with lights, 820 00:44:44,943 --> 00:44:47,336 and characters, and, and music. 821 00:44:48,642 --> 00:44:50,644 It shocked everybody. It was very shocking. 822 00:44:50,818 --> 00:44:53,212 But he is a little bit spooky on stage. 823 00:44:53,386 --> 00:44:55,040 He's got that monster thing going, 824 00:44:55,214 --> 00:44:58,173 and it's macabre, and the chopping up of the heads, 825 00:44:58,347 --> 00:45:02,221 and hanging himself, and cutting his own head off, and all that stuff. 826 00:45:02,395 --> 00:45:05,050 I could see even way back when in the '70s, 827 00:45:05,224 --> 00:45:08,618 they started bringing in these monsters with music. 828 00:45:08,793 --> 00:45:10,533 I remember, like, when I was six years old, 829 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:14,233 my dad... opened this magazine, he's like, 830 00:45:14,929 --> 00:45:16,583 "This is the fucking shit, man." 831 00:45:16,757 --> 00:45:18,977 It was a, it was a big picture of Kiss. 832 00:45:19,151 --> 00:45:22,241 He showed me videos, and I was like, "Oh, it's amazing." 833 00:45:22,415 --> 00:45:24,765 [Scott] When I first got into Kiss in '75, 834 00:45:25,853 --> 00:45:27,899 you know, I was already into horror movies, 835 00:45:28,073 --> 00:45:31,467 and I was well into comic books and music, and I was into rock, 836 00:45:31,641 --> 00:45:34,514 so Kiss was kind of, like, the whole package. 837 00:45:34,688 --> 00:45:36,646 Off the brown aisle scoop the Kiss. 838 00:45:36,821 --> 00:45:41,042 To me, that was the epitome of horror, originality. 839 00:45:41,216 --> 00:45:42,696 The beginnings. 840 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:46,439 I respect that because they did it first. 841 00:45:46,613 --> 00:45:48,267 My best friend in the business is Rob Zombie. 842 00:45:48,441 --> 00:45:50,922 Rob and I are good friends, and he's a director now. 843 00:45:51,096 --> 00:45:55,404 I mean, he directs horror. And he has the same attitude towards horror that I do. 844 00:45:56,057 --> 00:45:57,537 That it's comedy. 845 00:45:57,711 --> 00:45:59,365 [Eddie] Well, just the way Rob Zombie looks 846 00:45:59,539 --> 00:46:01,236 and the way his band looks and the way his stages 847 00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:03,804 and these robots and these things that he's doing. 848 00:46:03,978 --> 00:46:06,198 He really, I think, embodies everything 849 00:46:06,372 --> 00:46:08,243 that it is to merge metal and horror. 850 00:46:08,417 --> 00:46:09,679 When I was in White Zombie, 851 00:46:09,854 --> 00:46:11,377 I mean, just the name itself was... 852 00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,381 ...from a great Lugosi film, and I thought the name is so classic. 853 00:46:15,555 --> 00:46:18,079 It's like, "Oh, it's so obvious. This is like Black Sabbath. 854 00:46:18,253 --> 00:46:20,429 It's like White Zombie. It's the perfect name for band." 855 00:46:20,603 --> 00:46:22,910 Even before there was a band, I was like, "If there's ever a band, 856 00:46:23,084 --> 00:46:25,130 this is what I wanna call it." I knew that forever. 857 00:46:25,304 --> 00:46:27,915 And then once I was on my own, and I could do whatever I wanted, 858 00:46:28,089 --> 00:46:30,396 that's when like, "Oh, I'm gonna have giant robots on stage. 859 00:46:30,570 --> 00:46:33,529 I'm gonna have all kinds of creatures. I'm gonna have giant screens." 860 00:46:33,703 --> 00:46:35,444 Whatever I thought of was what I did. 861 00:46:35,618 --> 00:46:38,230 Lyrically, horror definitely has had a big influence, 862 00:46:38,404 --> 00:46:41,973 uh, on what I've done in my life, that's, that's for sure. 863 00:46:42,147 --> 00:46:45,454 The song "Among The Living," the title track of the album, 864 00:46:45,628 --> 00:46:47,848 is about, based off of The Stand. 865 00:46:48,022 --> 00:46:49,763 And it's about Randall Flagg in, 866 00:46:49,937 --> 00:46:51,547 um, the Stephen King character. 867 00:46:51,721 --> 00:46:55,638 The song "Lone Justice," off of Spreading the Disease, 868 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,858 influenced by The Dark Towerseries. 869 00:46:58,032 --> 00:47:00,600 I wrote about things I knew, and that was 870 00:47:00,774 --> 00:47:02,863 King books and comics and, 871 00:47:03,037 --> 00:47:05,823 uh, that was it. 872 00:47:05,997 --> 00:47:08,913 We had a song, "I Don't Wanna Go Down To The Basement," 873 00:47:09,087 --> 00:47:11,002 Texas Chainsaw Massacre. 874 00:47:11,176 --> 00:47:13,482 So, we were influenced by those movies, 875 00:47:13,656 --> 00:47:15,876 to be able to write about them. 876 00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:18,183 Lizzie Borden? Who's this girl, you know? 877 00:47:18,357 --> 00:47:20,402 [laughs] What does she want, you know? Even though 878 00:47:20,576 --> 00:47:24,406 it was the O.J. Simpson trial of that time, 879 00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:26,017 a lot of kids never heard of it. 880 00:47:26,582 --> 00:47:27,932 And now, of course, they're doing movies and stuff 881 00:47:28,106 --> 00:47:29,977 of the real Lizzie Borden. 882 00:47:30,151 --> 00:47:34,590 I saw The Omen. And when Thorn wipes the kid's cheek 883 00:47:34,764 --> 00:47:37,419 with the fox blood, 'cause he killed his first hound, 884 00:47:37,593 --> 00:47:39,378 I just love that, you know. 885 00:47:39,552 --> 00:47:41,206 And so, I brought that into my show. 886 00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:42,990 And I do that all over the world, 887 00:47:43,164 --> 00:47:45,471 and every kid wants blood on their faces. 888 00:47:45,645 --> 00:47:47,212 When we did our "Sandpaper" video, 889 00:47:47,386 --> 00:47:48,866 we thought we should do a homage to Evil Dead. 890 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,955 You know, what if our band was possessed by demons, 891 00:47:51,129 --> 00:47:53,044 people who know Evil Dead will go, 892 00:47:53,218 --> 00:47:55,350 "That's a homage to Evil Dead.We like this." 893 00:47:55,524 --> 00:47:58,179 There was always that vibe too. 894 00:47:58,353 --> 00:48:02,575 If it was cheaply done, well done, made it even scarier. 895 00:48:02,749 --> 00:48:06,709 Everything about what we do is completely influenced 896 00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:09,408 by horror movies or comics. 897 00:48:09,582 --> 00:48:13,064 There's a character in Redneck Zombies called the Tobacco Man, 898 00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:15,936 and he wears a hood, and I think you're supposed to think 899 00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:18,025 that he's got, like, cancer or something. 900 00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:22,638 He's, like, rotting, and that was where we got the idea for that. 901 00:48:22,812 --> 00:48:25,467 Over the years, I've got various requests 902 00:48:25,641 --> 00:48:30,472 to work, um, with metal bands, usually through my agent. 903 00:48:30,646 --> 00:48:34,433 The only one of those that ever came to fruition was Cradle of Filth. 904 00:48:34,607 --> 00:48:36,348 Well, we did an album called Midian, 905 00:48:36,522 --> 00:48:40,221 which is based on Clive Barker's book Cabal, 906 00:48:40,395 --> 00:48:42,963 which then was obviously the Nightbreedmovie. 907 00:48:43,137 --> 00:48:45,618 So we thought that if we're gonna have a narrative in it, 908 00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:49,535 it would be good to have someone from the Clyde Barker world of horror. 909 00:48:49,709 --> 00:48:52,494 It was great to have dug himself, 910 00:48:52,668 --> 00:48:56,281 and, and we immediately, like, affected his voice to sound like Pinhead-- 911 00:48:56,455 --> 00:49:00,067 So I did four albums with Cradle. 912 00:49:00,241 --> 00:49:02,156 I was suggesting that they should change their name 913 00:49:02,330 --> 00:49:04,463 to Doug Bradley and Cradle of Filth. 914 00:49:04,637 --> 00:49:08,119 [Dani] When I discovered metal, I was just a few years into my sort of 915 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,297 being very much into horror, as soon as I discovered metal, 916 00:49:12,471 --> 00:49:17,171 I totally embraced it and totally understood how one embraced the other. 917 00:49:17,345 --> 00:49:21,001 Everything we've done has that vampiric element to it as well. 918 00:49:21,175 --> 00:49:22,611 Not so much for Korn, but I did, uh, 919 00:49:22,785 --> 00:49:25,527 I had a alter ego J Devil when I was doing DJing. 920 00:49:25,701 --> 00:49:27,181 And I did a song called "Lick Me," 921 00:49:27,355 --> 00:49:29,662 and it takes samples from The Exorcist. 922 00:49:29,836 --> 00:49:33,405 When the little girl was banging herself. She's goes "Lick me!" 923 00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:35,624 So, I mean, uh, shit like that, using samples like that 924 00:49:35,798 --> 00:49:37,931 and stuff like that are really intense. 925 00:49:38,105 --> 00:49:41,282 I used the music, a lot of metal music, 926 00:49:41,456 --> 00:49:43,937 for listening to in between violent scenes. 927 00:49:44,111 --> 00:49:45,765 It just helps my energy. 928 00:49:45,939 --> 00:49:49,203 I used one song in particular a lot, 929 00:49:49,377 --> 00:49:51,379 and that was "Enter Sandman," 930 00:49:51,553 --> 00:49:53,816 my favorite Metallica song still. 931 00:49:54,295 --> 00:49:56,471 For years and years, I've been a fan of Metallica. 932 00:49:57,037 --> 00:49:58,256 I just think they're awesome. 933 00:49:58,821 --> 00:50:02,738 And, uh, love their, uh, album, uh, "Enter Sandman." 934 00:50:02,912 --> 00:50:04,436 That one is unbelievable. 935 00:50:04,610 --> 00:50:06,177 I've had my guitar, you know, 936 00:50:06,351 --> 00:50:08,309 I clicked my guitar in, you know, 937 00:50:08,483 --> 00:50:10,833 and I noodle sometimes when I'm watching movies. 938 00:50:11,008 --> 00:50:12,879 Sometimes I find myself 939 00:50:13,575 --> 00:50:16,187 kind of, like, playing to the flow of the film, 940 00:50:16,361 --> 00:50:19,799 and I kind of-- trying to anticipate what's gonna happen next. 941 00:50:19,973 --> 00:50:22,715 I'll write a riff, and I go, "Oh, goddamn. 942 00:50:22,889 --> 00:50:26,110 That sounds like Godzilla walking through Tokyo, you know?" 943 00:50:27,154 --> 00:50:29,026 If you're writing heavy metal and you have a riff 944 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,289 that sounds like Godzilla is walking through Tokyo, 945 00:50:31,463 --> 00:50:33,769 that's yum. You're on the right track. 946 00:50:33,943 --> 00:50:36,555 Wendy O. Williams, you know, who we're named after, 947 00:50:36,729 --> 00:50:38,426 the band is an ode to Wendy O. 948 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,299 You know, it's like just blowing up the cars 949 00:50:41,473 --> 00:50:44,563 and chainsawing things in half 950 00:50:44,737 --> 00:50:49,785 and making it a real horror show, um, and real shocking. 951 00:50:49,959 --> 00:50:53,137 And I think that that, uh, obviously has been a huge influence. 952 00:50:53,311 --> 00:50:56,096 [Carla] We were very influenced by horror and a lot of the songs 953 00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:58,577 that we wrote were about, you know, serial killers 954 00:50:58,751 --> 00:51:02,320 and real-life experiences that would scare you. 955 00:51:02,494 --> 00:51:04,844 And I think that horror 956 00:51:05,018 --> 00:51:08,500 and the things that scare us are still a running theme in all of our songs. 957 00:51:08,674 --> 00:51:11,329 The fact that we do metal of a darker and heavier sort 958 00:51:11,503 --> 00:51:13,026 make us slightly close to horror movie 959 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,289 and then maybe them to Teletubbies, I don't know. 960 00:51:15,463 --> 00:51:16,899 -[Tim chuckles] -[Johanness] Sometimes we try to scare people, 961 00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:18,988 make people uncomfortable 962 00:51:19,163 --> 00:51:20,120 in the stuff we are trying to tell. 963 00:51:20,294 --> 00:51:22,209 And lots of that imagery 964 00:51:22,383 --> 00:51:24,124 comes from horror movie, then obviously. 965 00:51:24,298 --> 00:51:26,605 Well, Skinny Puppy started as, uh, 966 00:51:26,779 --> 00:51:29,651 an electronic band that didn't wanna just stand up on stage 967 00:51:29,825 --> 00:51:32,828 and do a little dance because electronic music can be quite sterile. 968 00:51:33,002 --> 00:51:37,050 So our weekends were composed of taking a lot of hallucinogenics 969 00:51:37,224 --> 00:51:39,835 and watching horror film, after horror film, after horror film 970 00:51:40,009 --> 00:51:41,663 until they actually blended together. 971 00:51:41,837 --> 00:51:44,013 Fulci really hit me hard because there is 972 00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:46,059 an abstract nature to his films 973 00:51:46,233 --> 00:51:49,715 that I didn't understand, but in the altered state that we were in, 974 00:51:49,889 --> 00:51:55,112 it was incredibly effective of inducing inspiration for stage effects. 975 00:51:55,677 --> 00:52:00,595 I think if you grow up enough with listening to horror themes and stuff like that, 976 00:52:01,074 --> 00:52:02,597 within your music, 977 00:52:02,771 --> 00:52:05,818 let you be writing darker material. 978 00:52:06,297 --> 00:52:09,343 It's gonna come out of you. It's gonna come out of you, you know? 979 00:52:09,952 --> 00:52:12,303 Uh, Necrophagia, the stuff I wrote for them. 980 00:52:12,477 --> 00:52:14,479 The Christ Inversion. 981 00:52:14,957 --> 00:52:18,178 Bands like that, I've always, you know... 982 00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:19,745 Not to mention... 983 00:52:21,355 --> 00:52:23,357 ...the name of the second band's uh, record is 984 00:52:23,531 --> 00:52:25,185 Vulgar Display of Power. 985 00:52:26,839 --> 00:52:28,145 And I ripped that off... 986 00:52:29,363 --> 00:52:30,669 ...from The Exorcist. 987 00:52:31,409 --> 00:52:34,238 [devilish voice] That's much too vulgar display of power, Karras. 988 00:52:34,412 --> 00:52:36,022 My band, Charred Walls of the Damned, 989 00:52:36,196 --> 00:52:37,676 we've made a couple of videos, 990 00:52:37,850 --> 00:52:39,895 and they were both horror theme. 991 00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:42,942 One was called "Ghost Town" and one was called "Zerospan." 992 00:52:43,116 --> 00:52:45,379 These music videos offer a chance to make a, 993 00:52:45,553 --> 00:52:47,729 you know, three or four-minute short horror film. 994 00:52:47,903 --> 00:52:49,992 When we did, um... 995 00:52:51,037 --> 00:52:52,995 ...an album based on Dante Alighieri's, 996 00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:54,736 uh, The Divine Comedy. 997 00:52:55,215 --> 00:52:58,000 It was about the story of Dante traveling from, 998 00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:00,351 you know, hell through purgatory to paradise. 999 00:53:00,525 --> 00:53:03,180 We had a video "Convicted in Life," 1000 00:53:03,354 --> 00:53:07,532 and it was using a lot of imagery from that actual book 1001 00:53:07,706 --> 00:53:09,360 that translated into this imagery. 1002 00:53:09,534 --> 00:53:11,710 That was really incredible in what he was writing, 1003 00:53:11,884 --> 00:53:15,192 and he used that in the imagery of the actual video. 1004 00:53:15,844 --> 00:53:17,716 I love all the dark side of things, I actually have 1005 00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:19,848 another thrash band with my sons, Hatriot. 1006 00:53:20,022 --> 00:53:23,722 And we did a song about the Countess Báthory, 1007 00:53:23,896 --> 00:53:25,680 called "And Your Children to Be Damned," and we were 1008 00:53:25,854 --> 00:53:28,422 completely drenched in blood through the whole video. 1009 00:53:28,596 --> 00:53:30,946 And people didn't like it. But I liked it because I was like, 1010 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,948 "Well, I never got to be in a horror movie, so I wanted to be 1011 00:53:33,122 --> 00:53:34,863 drenched in blood and something." 1012 00:53:35,037 --> 00:53:37,649 So I made the director drench us all in blood and it was cool. 1013 00:53:37,823 --> 00:53:39,651 So it's, it's, it's always been a part of it. 1014 00:53:39,825 --> 00:53:43,132 I write-- my stuff is usually about that, that, that, 1015 00:53:43,307 --> 00:53:45,352 that darker side of things, you know? 1016 00:53:45,526 --> 00:53:47,267 We had a band a long time ago that existed for, like, a minute 1017 00:53:47,441 --> 00:53:48,834 called Haunted Garage. 1018 00:53:49,008 --> 00:53:51,053 The lead singer's name is Dukey Flyswatter. 1019 00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:54,840 He ended up being in Jim Rose Circus Sideshow thing for a while. 1020 00:53:55,014 --> 00:53:57,277 So they're still doing it out there, and he's still, like, 1021 00:53:57,451 --> 00:53:59,888 he's done a bunch of acting, a bunch of, like, low-grade horror movies 1022 00:54:00,062 --> 00:54:02,282 and stuff, so they're still out there doing stuff. So it's funny. 1023 00:54:02,456 --> 00:54:04,458 They're kind of on the same wavelength as GWAR, 1024 00:54:04,632 --> 00:54:06,373 but they were a little more psychological. 1025 00:54:06,547 --> 00:54:08,984 It was like they would perform autopsies on stage. 1026 00:54:09,158 --> 00:54:11,900 Like, I mean, it was dark, dark shit. 1027 00:54:12,074 --> 00:54:13,598 But I can remember seeing that, and just being 1028 00:54:13,772 --> 00:54:16,818 like, "Whoa!" You know? "What the hell is this?" 1029 00:54:16,992 --> 00:54:21,736 We, like, dove right into the whole concept that we were, like, uh, 1030 00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:25,218 a B horror movie on steroids, 1031 00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:28,569 Ghost is just like Papa. 1032 00:54:28,743 --> 00:54:30,702 The singer's got his face painted up like a skull, 1033 00:54:30,876 --> 00:54:32,617 and he's dressed like the priest. 1034 00:54:32,791 --> 00:54:35,750 That's awesome, you know, that's like horror rock 1035 00:54:35,924 --> 00:54:37,448 or shock rock, or what everyone call it. 1036 00:54:37,622 --> 00:54:40,581 We tend to go retrospectively back 1037 00:54:40,755 --> 00:54:45,064 in order to recreate a lot of visual elements that we just find pleasing. 1038 00:54:45,717 --> 00:54:47,501 As much as we were influenced by horror films, 1039 00:54:47,675 --> 00:54:49,895 it was also a fascination 1040 00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:53,028 with, uh, musicals, actually. 1041 00:54:53,202 --> 00:54:55,944 Simple example is obviously The Phantom of the Opera. 1042 00:54:56,423 --> 00:54:57,772 You don't know who's underneath, 1043 00:54:57,946 --> 00:54:59,818 and it could be whatever you like. 1044 00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:02,995 Marilyn and I jousted in the press when he first came out 1045 00:55:03,169 --> 00:55:07,260 because he was the, uh, Priest in the satanic, 1046 00:55:07,434 --> 00:55:09,871 you know, Anton LaVey's thing, all that whole thing. 1047 00:55:10,394 --> 00:55:11,264 And I'm Christian. 1048 00:55:11,917 --> 00:55:12,831 And, you know, 1049 00:55:13,745 --> 00:55:15,137 I, I kind of, uh, 1050 00:55:15,312 --> 00:55:17,488 our theology didn't match up at all. 1051 00:55:17,662 --> 00:55:20,839 And then we toured together. And had a great time. 1052 00:55:21,013 --> 00:55:23,885 I think the scariest thing about Marilyn was the videos. 1053 00:55:24,364 --> 00:55:27,236 The girl that did the videos was really good. 1054 00:55:27,759 --> 00:55:30,544 Really cemented what Marilyn was about there. 1055 00:55:30,718 --> 00:55:33,808 I have been kissed by Marilyn Manson. 1056 00:55:33,982 --> 00:55:36,420 -[electronic scratch] -You don't get over that in a hurry. 1057 00:55:36,594 --> 00:55:38,552 I recently met Jeordie White, 1058 00:55:38,726 --> 00:55:41,642 who actually is in the Marilyn Manson's group. 1059 00:55:41,816 --> 00:55:44,776 He was influenced by the horror genre. 1060 00:55:45,254 --> 00:55:47,344 As was, I guess, Marilyn. 1061 00:55:47,518 --> 00:55:48,519 We're more... 1062 00:55:49,476 --> 00:55:52,392 ...interested in, like, the chaos, and the shock, 1063 00:55:52,566 --> 00:55:56,135 and the sexuality, and confusion, 1064 00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:59,399 which is always somewhere between Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1065 00:55:59,573 --> 00:56:01,923 and the Pink Flamingos and John Waters' movie. 1066 00:56:02,097 --> 00:56:04,926 You know, those are the movies that we would watch to get inspired by. 1067 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:08,408 I really loved the whole, 1068 00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:11,150 the dark, outrageous, 1069 00:56:11,324 --> 00:56:13,631 cool look, great songs. 1070 00:56:14,632 --> 00:56:17,025 So I was really, um, into the band 1071 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:20,551 before I got into the band, and luckily, you know, 1072 00:56:20,725 --> 00:56:22,727 it just, everything just came together. 1073 00:56:22,901 --> 00:56:26,252 I don't wanna look like a regular dude. 1074 00:56:26,426 --> 00:56:27,949 And I, I love, 1075 00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:32,171 you know, the makeup, like Jack Pierce would do, all the Universal stuff, 1076 00:56:32,345 --> 00:56:36,697 and I really, really was so influenced by him and his genius. 1077 00:56:36,871 --> 00:56:39,308 And luckily, being with Zombie, 1078 00:56:39,483 --> 00:56:41,354 it's just exactly what I grew up 1079 00:56:41,528 --> 00:56:43,661 loving and wanting to be, 1080 00:56:43,835 --> 00:56:46,185 and it's like a monster with a guitar. 1081 00:56:46,838 --> 00:56:48,709 Wednesday 13 is really good at it. 1082 00:56:48,883 --> 00:56:51,016 He's fantastic. Nobody turns a pun like he does 1083 00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:52,757 when it comes to horror, you know? 1084 00:56:52,931 --> 00:56:55,194 And his music is great. He's passionate about it. 1085 00:56:55,368 --> 00:56:56,543 And I think that's one of the things you have to be. 1086 00:56:56,717 --> 00:56:58,197 You have to be passionate about it. 1087 00:56:58,371 --> 00:57:01,243 The first Murderdolls single that we did, uh, 1088 00:57:01,418 --> 00:57:04,551 was a song called "Dead In Hollywood," which originally was, 1089 00:57:04,725 --> 00:57:07,336 was on Frankenstein Drag Queens' third album. 1090 00:57:07,511 --> 00:57:09,513 And it was originally called "Hooray for Horrorwood," 1091 00:57:09,687 --> 00:57:13,342 which I got from famous monsters or creepy magazine 1092 00:57:13,517 --> 00:57:15,127 because there's a line where it says, 1093 00:57:15,301 --> 00:57:18,783 "You can knock on Ed Wood, but it won't do you no good. 1094 00:57:18,957 --> 00:57:20,785 Hey, Leatherface, remove my face." 1095 00:57:20,959 --> 00:57:23,614 And we had a part in the video where Joe's a woman. 1096 00:57:23,788 --> 00:57:26,094 And he rips the face off, and he's screaming, 1097 00:57:26,268 --> 00:57:28,183 You know? So we did a little homage to that. 1098 00:57:28,357 --> 00:57:30,708 As far as horror goes with what Wednesday 13 1099 00:57:30,882 --> 00:57:33,537 is it's just like, "I'm just getting started." 1100 00:57:33,711 --> 00:57:35,626 And I'm really just getting started with it. 1101 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,021 I have ideas and things that I've never seen anybody do before 1102 00:57:40,195 --> 00:57:42,197 that I want to, to try. 1103 00:57:42,371 --> 00:57:43,677 Slayer, obviously 1104 00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:45,984 one of my favorite bands. 1105 00:57:46,506 --> 00:57:49,074 Extremely horror influence throughout the year. 1106 00:57:49,248 --> 00:57:50,554 Many, many songs written 1107 00:57:50,728 --> 00:57:53,600 about horrible things, serial killers. 1108 00:57:53,774 --> 00:57:55,950 And if a band could be a horror movie, it would-- 1109 00:57:56,124 --> 00:57:57,169 for me, it would be Slayer. 1110 00:57:57,343 --> 00:57:58,213 Jack the Ripper. 1111 00:57:58,387 --> 00:57:59,127 There's a lot of people 1112 00:57:59,301 --> 00:58:00,433 that have stories 1113 00:58:00,607 --> 00:58:03,654 based on that particular killer. 1114 00:58:03,828 --> 00:58:07,484 When you think about Iron Maiden Killers,same thing. Eddie, with his hatchet. 1115 00:58:07,658 --> 00:58:10,443 There's, uh, several songs that they have about that whole period, 1116 00:58:10,617 --> 00:58:13,707 roaming the streets, "Murders In the Rue Morgue," stuff like that. 1117 00:58:13,881 --> 00:58:16,362 A band that's doing really interesting work right now is Behemoth. 1118 00:58:16,536 --> 00:58:19,147 It's kind of half artsy and half horror movie. 1119 00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:21,106 You know, they're working with this company named [unintelligible] 1120 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,021 and they're just doing an amazing graphic work. 1121 00:58:23,195 --> 00:58:24,065 And we talked to Nergal. 1122 00:58:24,239 --> 00:58:25,284 He's obviously a massive, 1123 00:58:25,458 --> 00:58:26,938 massive fan of horror stuff. 1124 00:58:27,721 --> 00:58:30,724 So they're kind of incorporating with-- the lyrics with these crazy images. 1125 00:58:30,898 --> 00:58:32,813 That imagery has always been there, you know? 1126 00:58:32,987 --> 00:58:34,728 The, the demons and the, uh, 1127 00:58:34,902 --> 00:58:37,252 all of that shit, you know? It kind of goes hand in hand. 1128 00:58:37,426 --> 00:58:39,994 [Mike] Type O Negative, 'cause they're just rule. 1129 00:58:40,168 --> 00:58:41,953 -I would say they were horror influenced. -[Woody inaudible] 1130 00:58:42,127 --> 00:58:43,432 -[Woody] Totally. -[Mike] Yeah. 1131 00:58:43,607 --> 00:58:45,347 Dudes like Frankenstein, man. 1132 00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:47,393 Another band that has been 1133 00:58:47,567 --> 00:58:49,917 influential in many ways, 1134 00:58:50,091 --> 00:58:54,052 um, that I also strongly, like, connect with, with, you know, 1135 00:58:54,226 --> 00:58:56,750 horror metal is definitely The Misfits. 1136 00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,231 It might not be super apparent in our music, 1137 00:58:59,405 --> 00:59:03,278 but it, it's melodically and attitude-wise, it's... 1138 00:59:04,018 --> 00:59:07,239 I've always been very influenced by Misfits. 1139 00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:11,069 It was the best combination of punk and horror that I'd ever heard. 1140 00:59:11,635 --> 00:59:13,811 I mean, it doesn't get much better than "Vampira." 1141 00:59:13,985 --> 00:59:15,726 It doesn't get much better than "Skulls." 1142 00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:17,554 It doesn't get much better than "Horror Business." 1143 00:59:17,728 --> 00:59:20,165 "Psycho '78," unless you saw the movie, 1144 00:59:20,339 --> 00:59:22,559 how the hell are you gonna put that together, you know? 1145 00:59:22,733 --> 00:59:24,517 That's the stuff that I love, man. 1146 00:59:24,691 --> 00:59:28,260 It's that, that wry little... [clicks tongue] you know? 1147 00:59:28,434 --> 00:59:29,957 [Kirk] When I first heard the Misfits, I heard 1148 00:59:30,131 --> 00:59:31,698 -the music first, I... -[unintelligible] 1149 00:59:31,872 --> 00:59:34,527 Pretty cool. But then when I saw what they looked like, 1150 00:59:35,223 --> 00:59:37,269 I was like, "Okay, I totally get it. 1151 00:59:37,443 --> 00:59:39,488 I totally get where they are coming from." 1152 00:59:39,663 --> 00:59:42,361 I saw the album, you know, their Mars, you know? 1153 00:59:42,535 --> 00:59:44,624 And the background is a bat-rat-spider-crab 1154 00:59:44,798 --> 00:59:46,234 from Angry Red Planet. 1155 00:59:46,408 --> 00:59:48,628 I just thought it was the most coolest thing, 1156 00:59:48,802 --> 00:59:51,544 'cause that's what I wanted to do, you know? 1157 00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:54,068 It's just imagery. It's art. It's, you know, 1158 00:59:54,242 --> 00:59:56,288 I can't write about puppies, flowers, and rainbows. 1159 00:59:56,462 --> 00:59:57,637 Nobody's going to buy it. 1160 00:59:57,811 --> 00:59:59,552 And you want that 15-year-old kid 1161 00:59:59,726 --> 01:00:01,641 to read the lyrics, and be like, 1162 01:00:01,815 --> 01:00:05,079 "Sick. These guys are fucked-up. This is nuts." You know? And... 1163 01:00:05,776 --> 01:00:07,908 It's all just imagery, man. It's, it's art. 1164 01:00:08,692 --> 01:00:10,650 I remember when I was probably like 19 or 20, 1165 01:00:10,824 --> 01:00:13,348 my friend was telling me, "You gotta go see this bang GWAR." 1166 01:00:13,522 --> 01:00:16,177 I just heard they dress up of these costumes, and it's a crazy show. 1167 01:00:16,351 --> 01:00:18,310 And then, When they still had the girl in the band, 1168 01:00:18,484 --> 01:00:20,355 she wound up giving birth on stage to a baby, 1169 01:00:20,529 --> 01:00:21,835 and they put it through the wood chipper. 1170 01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:23,010 I thought that was the greatest thing ever. 1171 01:00:23,881 --> 01:00:24,838 -And then-- -Did you take a date? 1172 01:00:25,012 --> 01:00:26,274 Huh? No, I didn't have a date. 1173 01:00:26,448 --> 01:00:27,711 Yeah. No girl wanted to go see that. 1174 01:00:27,885 --> 01:00:29,364 GWAR for somebody who is so over the top 1175 01:00:29,538 --> 01:00:31,584 and so silly that it just worked. 1176 01:00:32,106 --> 01:00:33,412 It's pretty obvious 1177 01:00:34,152 --> 01:00:35,240 that it has... 1178 01:00:36,415 --> 01:00:38,983 ...comic books, horror films, 1179 01:00:39,636 --> 01:00:40,985 bloodlust, 1180 01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:43,161 Dungeons and Dragons, 1181 01:00:43,944 --> 01:00:45,511 Soupy Sales. 1182 01:00:46,251 --> 01:00:48,383 The horror expression on someone's face 1183 01:00:48,557 --> 01:00:49,950 when, when we murder them 1184 01:00:50,124 --> 01:00:51,909 and they're bleeding and dying, 1185 01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:54,607 and, and it's just a really happy moment. 1186 01:00:54,781 --> 01:00:58,437 But horror is, uh, you know, it's a great genre. We love it. 1187 01:00:58,611 --> 01:01:00,918 It's a great way to make meaning, and we're lucky 1188 01:01:01,092 --> 01:01:03,529 to be a part of-- I don't know what the fuck I'm saying. 1189 01:01:03,703 --> 01:01:06,227 There's a band that I really love called Cannibal Corpse, 1190 01:01:06,401 --> 01:01:08,273 and they do a lot of horror, kind of, like, 1191 01:01:08,795 --> 01:01:12,059 lyrics about chopping up people and all that kind of stuff. 1192 01:01:12,233 --> 01:01:13,974 [Jose] Every one of their words in their songs 1193 01:01:14,148 --> 01:01:16,107 are like mini horror stories. 1194 01:01:16,281 --> 01:01:19,240 Mini killing stories, murder stories. 1195 01:01:19,414 --> 01:01:23,723 Real sick, twisted, bloody, gory tales 1196 01:01:23,897 --> 01:01:27,379 told in three-minute blast beats. 1197 01:01:27,553 --> 01:01:31,209 And with these lyrics that are like, "Oh, my God, a comic book." 1198 01:01:31,383 --> 01:01:33,515 We'd look at our stuff as just like... 1199 01:01:34,603 --> 01:01:36,301 ...um, brutal... 1200 01:01:37,128 --> 01:01:41,045 ...metal soundtrack over horror stories, you know? Horror movies. 1201 01:01:41,219 --> 01:01:43,612 Some of them being graphic, some of them being psychological, 1202 01:01:43,787 --> 01:01:45,832 and some of them, you know, some of our songs are just 1203 01:01:46,006 --> 01:01:47,486 fucking Fulci. You know what I mean? 1204 01:01:47,660 --> 01:01:49,531 Some of them are, you know, dead alive. 1205 01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:51,229 Just, you know, just blood and gore. 1206 01:01:51,403 --> 01:01:53,492 And some of them are more psychological. 1207 01:01:53,666 --> 01:01:55,189 You know, where it's just, 1208 01:01:55,363 --> 01:01:58,323 you know, it's the, the, the f-- the horror and the fear, 1209 01:01:58,497 --> 01:02:00,629 certain things and, and them happening. 1210 01:02:00,804 --> 01:02:04,895 King Diamond is probably very underrated when it comes to that stuff, 1211 01:02:05,069 --> 01:02:07,462 But look at his albums, his albums or movies. 1212 01:02:07,636 --> 01:02:09,290 And he will paint that all day. 1213 01:02:09,464 --> 01:02:14,295 [Dave] King is probably the heir apparent to Alice. 1214 01:02:14,469 --> 01:02:17,124 But I do believe that Alice heavily influenced him. 1215 01:02:17,603 --> 01:02:20,214 Portal, hands down. 1216 01:02:20,388 --> 01:02:23,957 They to me, sound like 1217 01:02:24,828 --> 01:02:28,701 the chaotic, swaying... 1218 01:02:30,137 --> 01:02:32,531 ...off kilter world 1219 01:02:32,705 --> 01:02:36,013 that Lovecraft invented 1220 01:02:36,187 --> 01:02:39,581 and their lyrics are fucking... 1221 01:02:40,539 --> 01:02:41,932 ...genius. 1222 01:02:42,106 --> 01:02:44,935 I'm sorry. Hands down, Portal. 1223 01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:48,634 Death is one of the bands. All the old Death songs and, and, and, um, 1224 01:02:48,808 --> 01:02:51,593 you know, "Scream Bloody Gore" is reanimated, you know. 1225 01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,771 Um, and then they have the song "Evil Dead," you know? So extremely gore. 1226 01:02:54,945 --> 01:02:57,599 Definitely you can see throughout that whole album. 1227 01:02:57,774 --> 01:03:02,256 We're at Knotfest, idiot. Of course, Slipknot stands out as a horror band. 1228 01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:04,519 They've been around for a long fucking time paying their dues. 1229 01:03:04,693 --> 01:03:06,478 I mean, it's fucking good shit. 1230 01:03:06,652 --> 01:03:08,785 [Jizmak] Yeah, they're badass musicians. 1231 01:03:09,437 --> 01:03:13,224 And they're fucking, their masks are pretty sick. They're pretty scary, right? 1232 01:03:13,398 --> 01:03:16,140 I mean, they're not as scary as us, but they're pretty scary. 1233 01:03:16,314 --> 01:03:18,925 I think Slipknot's probably the best example of a modern-day band 1234 01:03:19,099 --> 01:03:21,232 that's kind of adapted that Kiss imagery. 1235 01:03:21,406 --> 01:03:23,625 It also gives them a uniform look, which I liked. 1236 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,671 There was that thing about Kiss. I mean, even though they had these garish costumes, 1237 01:03:25,845 --> 01:03:28,108 they were a gang. You could see this. 1238 01:03:28,282 --> 01:03:30,154 I think, because I was a horror fan, 1239 01:03:30,328 --> 01:03:32,939 and all the guys in the band were horror fans, 1240 01:03:33,113 --> 01:03:36,551 we knew how to set that tone. 1241 01:03:36,725 --> 01:03:39,380 We knew how to set that mood of foreboding, you know, 1242 01:03:39,554 --> 01:03:41,469 and just closing people in. 1243 01:03:41,643 --> 01:03:44,733 You know, the masks, there's always been this byproduct 1244 01:03:44,908 --> 01:03:46,648 where people have always assumed 1245 01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:49,521 that we started wearing them for shock value. 1246 01:03:49,695 --> 01:03:52,132 But it was always so much more artistic than that. 1247 01:03:52,306 --> 01:03:54,439 It was about letting that other person out, 1248 01:03:54,613 --> 01:03:58,486 which I think is very much in line with why Michael Myers wore it. 1249 01:03:58,660 --> 01:04:01,707 He put it on so he could let that beast out. 1250 01:04:01,881 --> 01:04:04,710 This music is coming from a person inside me 1251 01:04:04,884 --> 01:04:07,887 that I may not be able to show the world around me. 1252 01:04:08,453 --> 01:04:11,282 So I put this mask on. And then all of a sudden, boom. 1253 01:04:11,456 --> 01:04:13,197 -There he is. -[glitches] 1254 01:04:19,377 --> 01:04:23,337 Metal and horror work so well together, don't they? 1255 01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:25,949 Don't they, Christopher? 1256 01:04:27,864 --> 01:04:29,213 [suspenseful music] 1257 01:04:29,387 --> 01:04:31,955 Oh, yes, I can see you. 1258 01:04:32,999 --> 01:04:33,870 [scoffs] 1259 01:04:35,132 --> 01:04:36,307 How are you doing this? 1260 01:04:37,743 --> 01:04:41,007 Let's just say I'm not a prerecorded video. 1261 01:04:41,747 --> 01:04:43,227 I am a messenger. 1262 01:04:44,184 --> 01:04:46,970 Have a seat, so we may continue 1263 01:04:47,579 --> 01:04:48,536 your lesson. 1264 01:04:54,020 --> 01:04:57,154 You are the lone survivor of the apocalypse, Christopher. 1265 01:04:58,372 --> 01:05:02,028 The last one to acquire the knowledge that I have to share. 1266 01:05:03,638 --> 01:05:04,857 I'm the only survivor? 1267 01:05:06,163 --> 01:05:07,294 Yes. 1268 01:05:08,034 --> 01:05:11,559 You're the lone survivor of an empty, desolate world. 1269 01:05:12,212 --> 01:05:13,866 The last remaining human... 1270 01:05:15,433 --> 01:05:16,956 ...to absorb this knowledge. 1271 01:05:19,089 --> 01:05:21,134 Hasn't there been enough horror in the world? 1272 01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:23,789 [stutters] This is hell. 1273 01:05:24,790 --> 01:05:26,879 We all need an escape from time to time. 1274 01:05:27,401 --> 01:05:29,186 It's entertainment, Christopher. 1275 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,710 Let us move forward. 1276 01:05:31,884 --> 01:05:33,930 We will now cover a few segments, 1277 01:05:34,104 --> 01:05:38,238 starting with the use of horror artwork on album covers. 1278 01:05:38,891 --> 01:05:41,589 And the creation of horror film soundtracks. 1279 01:05:42,068 --> 01:05:44,636 Then, we will take a look at the meeting grounds 1280 01:05:44,810 --> 01:05:47,639 for the fans of metal and horror 1281 01:05:48,205 --> 01:05:50,294 in the form of conventions. 1282 01:05:50,468 --> 01:05:51,730 Here we go. 1283 01:05:52,426 --> 01:05:56,082 -[glitches] -What I liked was the horror movie imagery 1284 01:05:56,256 --> 01:05:58,693 on the stage, on the album covers. 1285 01:05:58,867 --> 01:06:01,609 I mean, Iron Maiden, still one of my all-time favorite bands. 1286 01:06:01,783 --> 01:06:03,524 One of my top three favorite bands, 1287 01:06:03,698 --> 01:06:06,745 with thebest marketing idea ever. Of Eddie. 1288 01:06:06,919 --> 01:06:09,008 You see the imagery of Eddie, you know what it is. 1289 01:06:09,182 --> 01:06:12,446 Every album, Eddie's got a new, uh, look. 1290 01:06:12,620 --> 01:06:14,622 They go to space, Somewhere in Time. 1291 01:06:14,796 --> 01:06:16,973 They go to Egypt, Powerslave, he's the mummy Eddie. 1292 01:06:17,147 --> 01:06:18,757 You go to Canada, He's a Mountie. 1293 01:06:18,931 --> 01:06:20,802 You go to Russia, he's a Bolshevik. 1294 01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:23,109 Anywhere you go around the world, 1295 01:06:23,283 --> 01:06:26,199 Eddie can be something from that culture 1296 01:06:26,373 --> 01:06:28,114 that comes directly from horror movies. 1297 01:06:28,288 --> 01:06:30,595 We've seen Eddie so much, but he's a zombie with long hair. 1298 01:06:31,161 --> 01:06:33,554 But he's Eddie. He's become so classic. 1299 01:06:33,728 --> 01:06:35,339 Well, I remember the first Iron Maiden record. 1300 01:06:35,513 --> 01:06:36,905 As little kids, we took our, 1301 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,690 well, me and my friends, uh, went on our bikes 1302 01:06:38,864 --> 01:06:40,866 to this record store, um, and I saw the first Iron Maiden. 1303 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,042 I'm like, "This has to be good. Look at this cover." 1304 01:06:43,216 --> 01:06:45,479 And it was like $7.99. I'm gonna take a chance on it. 1305 01:06:45,653 --> 01:06:48,047 Like, I get back home and listen to it and it was amazing so... 1306 01:06:48,787 --> 01:06:51,137 Th-- It'll definitely, a cover would definitely do it for me. 1307 01:06:51,311 --> 01:06:55,185 I bought that record without knowing it at, at all what Iron Maiden sounded like. 1308 01:06:55,968 --> 01:06:58,057 But I see a zombie on the cover. 1309 01:06:58,231 --> 01:07:00,842 And this really cool font for a logo. 1310 01:07:01,452 --> 01:07:04,977 And it was in the metal section in the store. This was in 1980. 1311 01:07:05,456 --> 01:07:06,979 So, I, I-- "All right, all right, it's a metal band. 1312 01:07:07,153 --> 01:07:08,763 And look at that guy on the cover. 1313 01:07:08,937 --> 01:07:10,678 Holy shit! Look at that dude." 1314 01:07:10,852 --> 01:07:14,595 Eddie trans-- He, he, like, transformed Iron Maiden. 1315 01:07:14,769 --> 01:07:16,902 It's like, obviously, he became that icon. 1316 01:07:17,076 --> 01:07:19,948 Just like Megadeth has their icon. Everyone was looking for, like, 1317 01:07:20,123 --> 01:07:22,603 "Who are we going to have for our 'symbol' of the band?" You know? 1318 01:07:22,777 --> 01:07:25,606 [Dave] The inspiration for our mascot, Vic Rattlehead, is really simple. 1319 01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:28,740 I think a lot of people have looked at it and missed it. 1320 01:07:28,914 --> 01:07:32,352 It's so in your face. It's, "See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil." 1321 01:07:32,526 --> 01:07:34,093 That's it. I drew the guy, 1322 01:07:34,876 --> 01:07:36,052 then we... 1323 01:07:37,227 --> 01:07:40,882 ...put the bones behind it for being kind of like a pirate. 1324 01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:43,320 And then we changed his head to it. 1325 01:07:43,494 --> 01:07:45,800 So that, you know, you're stuck to this lifestyle 1326 01:07:45,974 --> 01:07:47,454 because, you know, as troubadours, 1327 01:07:47,628 --> 01:07:50,153 we really are marauders going from town to town. 1328 01:07:50,327 --> 01:07:53,547 I think an album cover artwork, its purpose is to say, 1329 01:07:53,721 --> 01:07:55,288 "You can't hear me, but look at me. 1330 01:07:55,462 --> 01:07:57,116 I'm cool enough, you wanna hear me." 1331 01:07:57,290 --> 01:08:00,076 It wouldn't be much different from how movie theaters 1332 01:08:00,250 --> 01:08:01,773 would drag people in, you know? 1333 01:08:01,947 --> 01:08:06,212 Um, or billboards or, you know, 1334 01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:08,040 film posters, especially the '80s-- 1335 01:08:08,214 --> 01:08:10,260 well, late '70s, early '80s, 1336 01:08:10,434 --> 01:08:13,828 always dripping with blood, and people love that kind of thing. 1337 01:08:14,002 --> 01:08:16,092 [Charlie] There's been a band called Ghost, 1338 01:08:16,266 --> 01:08:17,963 which I'd-- I took a liking to, 1339 01:08:18,137 --> 01:08:22,098 and then I saw the cover, their first album. 1340 01:08:22,272 --> 01:08:24,535 I saw and I'm like, "Wow, this is Salem's Lot." 1341 01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:27,015 I just loved the whole aesthetic of that, 1342 01:08:27,538 --> 01:08:31,411 of that group, you know? It just has everything that I love. 1343 01:08:31,585 --> 01:08:34,806 I remember walking through Sears department store 1344 01:08:34,980 --> 01:08:37,852 and seeing Kiss Love Gun. It just came out. 1345 01:08:38,026 --> 01:08:41,552 I remember it was like this music group of monsters. 1346 01:08:41,726 --> 01:08:45,556 And so I bought it just on the cover, and it interchanged my life. 1347 01:08:45,730 --> 01:08:50,996 The Brain Drainalbum cover of the Ramones is art work of a ghost. 1348 01:08:51,170 --> 01:08:54,391 It would attract the buyer to the album 1349 01:08:54,565 --> 01:08:58,525 that obviously was a horror or sci-fi fan, or metal, or punk. Whatever it is. 1350 01:08:58,699 --> 01:09:02,094 Well, Cannibal Corpse definitely has the most grotesque 1351 01:09:02,268 --> 01:09:04,183 horror album covers ever. 1352 01:09:04,357 --> 01:09:07,404 You know, people being disemboweled and all kinds of crazy stuff. 1353 01:09:07,578 --> 01:09:09,536 They, they probably take the cake as far 1354 01:09:09,710 --> 01:09:12,713 as gory album covers. 1355 01:09:12,887 --> 01:09:16,630 When I recently got Cannibal Corpse Tomb of the Mutilatedon vinyl, 1356 01:09:16,804 --> 01:09:21,157 it's one of the most horrific and shocking album covers that you'll ever see, 1357 01:09:21,331 --> 01:09:24,334 and I love it because it's shocking as hell. 1358 01:09:24,508 --> 01:09:27,989 Yeah, I think about the covers we have, some of them are just... 1359 01:09:29,339 --> 01:09:31,732 Butchered at Birth, I mean, come on. And, and that pisses people off 1360 01:09:31,906 --> 01:09:33,169 like to no end, you know? 1361 01:09:33,343 --> 01:09:34,648 You start messing with babies and stuff. 1362 01:09:34,822 --> 01:09:37,085 Ozzy Osbourne, Blizzard of Ozz 1363 01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:38,739 is one that sticks in my mind 1364 01:09:38,913 --> 01:09:40,698 as far as just being an amazing album. 1365 01:09:40,872 --> 01:09:42,917 Uh, Bark at the Moonis like, 1366 01:09:43,091 --> 01:09:46,007 obviously him as a werewolf was pretty fucking cool. 1367 01:09:46,182 --> 01:09:49,097 [Jim] Diary of a Madmancover had the upside-down cross at the background. 1368 01:09:49,272 --> 01:09:51,361 Ozzy's bloody. He's got a little kid over there. 1369 01:09:51,535 --> 01:09:53,841 So that was a little, a little frightening. 1370 01:09:54,015 --> 01:09:56,148 Album covers are just like posters, you know? 1371 01:09:56,322 --> 01:09:58,063 They're like movie posters. They're like, 1372 01:09:58,237 --> 01:10:00,326 "Hey, if there is, if it's a good album cover, 1373 01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:03,242 it's gonna give you a flavor of what you're gonna be listening to." 1374 01:10:03,416 --> 01:10:05,592 I think the late '70s 1375 01:10:05,766 --> 01:10:09,205 and right through the '80s became such a fertile time. 1376 01:10:09,379 --> 01:10:12,904 You had people on one hand doing horror music, 1377 01:10:13,078 --> 01:10:15,646 and you had people on the other hand doing horror film. 1378 01:10:15,820 --> 01:10:19,258 And then somewhere in the middle, where these two circles crossed, 1379 01:10:19,432 --> 01:10:20,694 you had a hybrid. 1380 01:10:20,868 --> 01:10:22,696 The one that kicked it off for me was 1381 01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:24,394 Phantom of the Paradise. 1382 01:10:24,568 --> 01:10:26,134 That was heavy metal, 1383 01:10:26,309 --> 01:10:28,920 rock and roll, horror. 1384 01:10:29,094 --> 01:10:31,575 And that, to me, was 1385 01:10:31,749 --> 01:10:34,839 the piece that said it that everybody had to go to. 1386 01:10:35,013 --> 01:10:37,798 Then you had things like Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park. 1387 01:10:37,972 --> 01:10:39,800 That was 1978. 1388 01:10:39,974 --> 01:10:42,281 So it wasn't really metal, but it was Kiss 1389 01:10:42,455 --> 01:10:45,458 and it was a lot of their stuff, 1390 01:10:45,632 --> 01:10:47,199 so that kind of kicked it off. 1391 01:10:47,373 --> 01:10:48,722 But they have a film, 1392 01:10:48,896 --> 01:10:52,160 the first metal exploitation horror film. 1393 01:10:53,161 --> 01:10:55,381 1980, Terror on Tour. 1394 01:10:55,555 --> 01:10:58,558 Then 1984, Alice Cooper, Monster Dog. 1395 01:10:58,732 --> 01:11:01,082 Hard Rock Zombies,1985. 1396 01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:04,260 Also, about 1986, Maximum Overdrive, 1397 01:11:04,434 --> 01:11:06,958 Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare, Black Roses, 1398 01:11:07,132 --> 01:11:10,135 Shock 'Em Dead, A Nightmare on Elm Street 3. 1399 01:11:10,309 --> 01:11:13,747 I tend to like um, you know, that, the whole Freddy Krueger thing. 1400 01:11:13,921 --> 01:11:15,619 I thought it was really a great series. 1401 01:11:15,793 --> 01:11:18,186 And I remember being so jealous at George Lynch 1402 01:11:18,361 --> 01:11:22,234 and, and Dokken for having a song in that series. 1403 01:11:22,408 --> 01:11:24,671 They'd already titled the movie. A lot of people think we came up 1404 01:11:24,845 --> 01:11:26,760 with the song "Dream Warriors," but we didn't. 1405 01:11:26,934 --> 01:11:29,154 And that was the first time somebody ever come to me and say, 1406 01:11:29,807 --> 01:11:33,027 "You write a song, but it has to be called 'Dream Warriors,' 1407 01:11:33,201 --> 01:11:35,900 and the title 'Dream Warriors' must be in the chorus." 1408 01:11:36,074 --> 01:11:38,685 [Eddie] Dokken's "Dream Warriors," they actually incorporated, 1409 01:11:38,859 --> 01:11:40,165 there's footage in the video for that song 1410 01:11:40,339 --> 01:11:42,341 -of Freddy Krueger... -[Jim] Right. 1411 01:11:42,515 --> 01:11:45,083 ...and that was actually, that was really something that was paired up, 1412 01:11:45,257 --> 01:11:46,824 I think, pretty, uh, directly, 1413 01:11:46,998 --> 01:11:48,565 as opposed to where the other films 1414 01:11:48,739 --> 01:11:50,697 may have just licensed songs or whatever. 1415 01:11:50,871 --> 01:11:52,917 Yeah, "The Man Behind the Mask" from Alice Cooper, 1416 01:11:53,091 --> 01:11:54,788 and the Friday the 13thmovie. 1417 01:11:54,962 --> 01:11:57,095 [Alice] When you had your new horror characters, 1418 01:11:57,269 --> 01:11:59,445 your Jasons and your Michael Myers, 1419 01:11:59,619 --> 01:12:01,447 the new slasher films 1420 01:12:01,621 --> 01:12:03,841 sort of happened the same time as metal did. 1421 01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:05,843 So there was a connection there. 1422 01:12:06,017 --> 01:12:10,238 If you saw an action scene with Jason 1423 01:12:10,413 --> 01:12:14,895 and Freddy Krueger fighting, well, it certainly wasn't gonna be violin music. 1424 01:12:15,635 --> 01:12:18,856 It was going to be... [imitates metal music] 1425 01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:22,338 ...aggressive kind of, uh, music. 1426 01:12:22,512 --> 01:12:24,427 That, and it worked together. It just works together. 1427 01:12:24,601 --> 01:12:26,733 The bands are influenced by horror movies 1428 01:12:26,907 --> 01:12:30,520 also because many horror movies, they use the heavy metal. 1429 01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:34,654 Uh, included Dario, Dario Argento use a lot of heavy metal for his film. 1430 01:12:34,828 --> 01:12:38,484 [John] Dario Argento used it really well and early. 1431 01:12:39,442 --> 01:12:41,095 And if you see his movie called Phenomena, 1432 01:12:41,269 --> 01:12:44,795 he used heavy metal in that really to a great effect. 1433 01:12:44,969 --> 01:12:47,754 If you listen to the soundtracks, or if you go through the soundtracks 1434 01:12:47,928 --> 01:12:49,234 of The Return of the Living Dead, 1435 01:12:49,408 --> 01:12:51,018 it was basically a compilation of rock 1436 01:12:51,192 --> 01:12:54,761 and... punk songs. 1437 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,198 When I watch The Return of the Living Dead, 1438 01:12:57,373 --> 01:12:58,809 I still get goose bumps 1439 01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:02,029 when the skeleton comes up and starts saying, 1440 01:13:02,203 --> 01:13:04,815 "Do you want a party?" 1441 01:13:04,989 --> 01:13:08,079 It was like, "Okay, now chaos is gonna ensue." 1442 01:13:08,253 --> 01:13:10,864 Soundtracks for films 1443 01:13:11,038 --> 01:13:14,085 of the singles were selling as well, 1444 01:13:14,259 --> 01:13:16,740 if not better than soundtracks 1445 01:13:16,914 --> 01:13:19,786 that were the composed score to the, to the film. 1446 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,571 Music is like the, 1447 01:13:22,093 --> 01:13:25,488 the unsung hero of horror movies. 1448 01:13:25,662 --> 01:13:28,099 Especially you look at Psycho, you look at Jaws, 1449 01:13:28,273 --> 01:13:31,363 you look at Halloween, you look at Friday the 13th, 1450 01:13:31,537 --> 01:13:34,279 they really kind of push the boundaries, 1451 01:13:34,453 --> 01:13:37,238 and I think that's one of the reasons why horror is always 1452 01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:40,067 so at the forefront of, musically, 1453 01:13:40,241 --> 01:13:42,592 just being able to kind of get away with murder. 1454 01:13:42,766 --> 01:13:44,985 [heavy metal music] 1455 01:13:50,164 --> 01:13:53,211 Every week of the year, 1456 01:13:53,777 --> 01:13:55,909 you can go to a horror convention. 1457 01:13:56,083 --> 01:13:57,781 Can't go to a romance convention, 1458 01:13:57,955 --> 01:13:59,391 can't go to a Western convention, 1459 01:13:59,565 --> 01:14:02,176 can't even go to a Star Warsconvention 1460 01:14:02,350 --> 01:14:03,439 every week of the year. 1461 01:14:03,613 --> 01:14:04,657 But every week of the year 1462 01:14:04,831 --> 01:14:06,964 in the United States, someplace, 1463 01:14:07,138 --> 01:14:08,531 there's a horror convention. 1464 01:14:08,705 --> 01:14:10,968 How and when did horror conventions begin? 1465 01:14:11,142 --> 01:14:13,405 Well, I mean, I can tell you when they began for me. 1466 01:14:13,579 --> 01:14:15,625 They began for me in the '80s, uh, when magazines 1467 01:14:15,799 --> 01:14:18,279 like Fangoria, Chiller Convention 1468 01:14:18,454 --> 01:14:20,499 and all of those East Coast entities 1469 01:14:20,673 --> 01:14:22,153 started putting on a show so everybody could be together. 1470 01:14:22,327 --> 01:14:25,373 But before that, with Famous Monsters of Filmland 1471 01:14:25,548 --> 01:14:27,463 with James Warren and Forrest J Ackerman, 1472 01:14:27,637 --> 01:14:29,552 they began in the 1970s, 1473 01:14:29,726 --> 01:14:31,467 when they held their very first-ever convention, 1474 01:14:31,641 --> 01:14:34,557 I think in 1974 in New York City. 1475 01:14:34,731 --> 01:14:36,254 As they started to come up, you're like, 1476 01:14:36,428 --> 01:14:39,126 "Wow, we have a history of horror." You know? 1477 01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:41,346 And that's why I think, you know, things like Monsterpalooza 1478 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,609 are thriving now because they're showing you, 1479 01:14:43,783 --> 01:14:45,785 like, these are the people who have done the makeup. 1480 01:14:45,959 --> 01:14:47,395 These are people who are in the films. 1481 01:14:47,570 --> 01:14:48,962 And then here are the films themselves. 1482 01:14:49,136 --> 01:14:51,138 So you have a full-rounded presentation, 1483 01:14:51,312 --> 01:14:52,226 and that's something for everyone. 1484 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,967 My partner, Eben, is 1485 01:14:54,141 --> 01:14:56,622 the one that is the brain trust of Mad Monster, 1486 01:14:56,796 --> 01:15:00,147 and his vision was to make an old-school convention 1487 01:15:00,321 --> 01:15:03,194 because what we are selling and what we're buying 1488 01:15:03,368 --> 01:15:05,849 is not stuff, it's memories. 1489 01:15:06,023 --> 01:15:09,417 I put to the rock and roll and the horror movies thing together. 1490 01:15:10,375 --> 01:15:11,419 Sure, I am. 1491 01:15:11,594 --> 01:15:12,899 A friend of mine, Kevin Barbary, 1492 01:15:13,073 --> 01:15:14,771 who was already attending conventions 1493 01:15:14,945 --> 01:15:17,425 way before... I ever did. 1494 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,080 He brought the idea to us to have a convention 1495 01:15:20,254 --> 01:15:22,605 up here where we added a music festival 1496 01:15:22,779 --> 01:15:24,345 to the horror convention as well. 1497 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,000 This convention, I liked it 'cause we got to play 1498 01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:31,178 and, um, all great friends of mine, and it was great to see 'em. 1499 01:15:31,352 --> 01:15:33,485 And it's cool to have the show too. 1500 01:15:33,659 --> 01:15:38,098 I never had any interest in throwing a festival before. 1501 01:15:38,621 --> 01:15:40,753 I just enjoyed showing my friends horror films. 1502 01:15:40,927 --> 01:15:43,408 We're not like the biggest festival, 1503 01:15:43,582 --> 01:15:46,803 but I think we are a unique festival. 1504 01:15:46,977 --> 01:15:49,457 I think we show killer fucking movies. 1505 01:15:49,980 --> 01:15:53,374 I know we have killer fucking bands 1506 01:15:53,549 --> 01:15:55,420 year in and year out. 1507 01:15:55,594 --> 01:15:57,204 That's Housecore. 1508 01:15:57,378 --> 01:16:00,643 We're about to bring up some badasses to the stage. 1509 01:16:00,817 --> 01:16:01,644 Who are... 1510 01:16:02,688 --> 01:16:04,168 ...dudes highly respected 1511 01:16:04,342 --> 01:16:07,954 in the worlds of rock and roll and horror. 1512 01:16:08,128 --> 01:16:10,348 This will be my second year in a row 1513 01:16:10,522 --> 01:16:13,090 hosting Kirk Hammett's Fear FestEvil. 1514 01:16:13,264 --> 01:16:16,659 It's an honor, man. It's like my community service to get to do that 1515 01:16:16,833 --> 01:16:18,835 because I'm able to get up on stage and talk 1516 01:16:19,009 --> 01:16:21,925 about how much these two worlds mean to me. 1517 01:16:22,099 --> 01:16:24,144 [Bill] The Kirk Hammett's show, um, 1518 01:16:24,318 --> 01:16:27,017 yes, I was on stage with those guys, so... 1519 01:16:27,191 --> 01:16:30,237 A lot of the metal guys, you know, have been inspired 1520 01:16:30,411 --> 01:16:32,239 by some of the movies I do. 1521 01:16:32,413 --> 01:16:33,937 Fear FestEvil was great. 1522 01:16:34,111 --> 01:16:36,853 Um, I got to go up with my buddy Joel Harlow, 1523 01:16:37,027 --> 01:16:40,247 the fucking genius makeup affects guy. 1524 01:16:40,421 --> 01:16:42,075 He's Johnny Depp's guy. 1525 01:16:42,641 --> 01:16:46,471 He did a live application on stage in front of an audience 1526 01:16:46,645 --> 01:16:48,473 and turned me into Jack the Ripper. 1527 01:16:48,647 --> 01:16:50,867 I would just sit in a chair just so I could get made up, 1528 01:16:51,041 --> 01:16:53,652 look at myself in the mirror, and then take a picture of it 1529 01:16:53,826 --> 01:16:55,175 and go, "Wow, look what I did today." 1530 01:16:55,349 --> 01:16:56,916 Like it's the coolest thing in the world. 1531 01:16:57,090 --> 01:17:00,006 I think like in Kirk's case, when I first met him, 1532 01:17:00,180 --> 01:17:02,182 he gave me a signed copy of his book 1533 01:17:02,356 --> 01:17:03,836 Too Much Horror Business, 1534 01:17:04,010 --> 01:17:05,751 and I right away read that book, 1535 01:17:05,925 --> 01:17:09,059 and I learned that Kirk as a child, you know, 1536 01:17:09,233 --> 01:17:12,149 grew up with an intense interest in horror films. 1537 01:17:12,323 --> 01:17:14,368 I was invited to his show, 1538 01:17:15,108 --> 01:17:17,371 uh, several years ago in San Francisco 1539 01:17:17,545 --> 01:17:20,070 and had an absolutely wonderful time there. 1540 01:17:20,244 --> 01:17:24,596 And then, I had the opportunity to see a large portion 1541 01:17:24,770 --> 01:17:27,643 of his magnificent collection. 1542 01:17:27,817 --> 01:17:29,166 I don't know if I ever realized 1543 01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:30,907 what kind of a collection he has, 1544 01:17:31,081 --> 01:17:33,823 and I think I've still only seen just a portion of it. 1545 01:17:33,997 --> 01:17:37,522 [Bela] I was privileged to attend the convention. 1546 01:17:38,523 --> 01:17:41,004 And a concert that he put on where he performed on stage. 1547 01:17:41,178 --> 01:17:43,963 And, and it was really quite an experience. 1548 01:17:44,137 --> 01:17:46,357 I know there, there are people out there who love horror. 1549 01:17:46,531 --> 01:17:48,359 I know there are people who love heavy metal. 1550 01:17:48,533 --> 01:17:50,056 And I know there are people who love both. 1551 01:17:50,230 --> 01:17:53,930 And basically, I'm reaching out to those people 1552 01:17:54,104 --> 01:17:57,455 and saying, "Hey, man, I'm into it too. And I got a lot of cool stuff. 1553 01:17:57,629 --> 01:18:00,240 You can just come over and check it out. And you know what? 1554 01:18:00,414 --> 01:18:01,851 I got a great guild that I have assembled 1555 01:18:02,025 --> 01:18:04,288 of some really great cool bands 1556 01:18:04,462 --> 01:18:06,943 filled with guys who love horror movies as well. 1557 01:18:07,117 --> 01:18:08,596 And, you know, these are my buds. 1558 01:18:08,771 --> 01:18:10,729 And at the end, we're gonna have a big old jam 1559 01:18:10,903 --> 01:18:12,775 because we just all love the same stuff." 1560 01:18:12,949 --> 01:18:14,167 And what it really is, 1561 01:18:14,341 --> 01:18:15,908 Fear FestEvil's just a celebration 1562 01:18:16,082 --> 01:18:18,650 of both things, horror and heavy metal. 1563 01:18:18,824 --> 01:18:21,784 [Gunnar] I go to several conventions a year. 1564 01:18:21,958 --> 01:18:26,223 And there really does seem to be a real strong link between heavy metal and horror. 1565 01:18:26,397 --> 01:18:29,400 Lots of, uh, what we would call metal heads 1566 01:18:29,574 --> 01:18:30,880 come to my table. 1567 01:18:31,054 --> 01:18:33,752 I see them everywhere, though. 1568 01:18:33,926 --> 01:18:35,232 Yeah, I see it all over the world. 1569 01:18:35,406 --> 01:18:39,279 Every person that is not wearing a horror T-shirt 1570 01:18:39,453 --> 01:18:42,152 is wearing a heavy metal T-shirt, that's for sure. 1571 01:18:42,326 --> 01:18:47,026 It is the same kind of people, I think the same clientele 1572 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,289 that, that goes to both of these things. 1573 01:18:49,463 --> 01:18:51,901 Horror movies and heavy metal concerts. 1574 01:18:52,075 --> 01:18:54,991 They are quite, quite wonderful, 1575 01:18:55,513 --> 01:18:58,168 uh, and, uh, I love them all. 1576 01:18:58,864 --> 01:19:00,387 From the bottom of my heart... 1577 01:19:01,475 --> 01:19:02,302 ...thank you. 1578 01:19:03,390 --> 01:19:04,652 [glitches] 1579 01:19:04,827 --> 01:19:05,566 Thoughts? 1580 01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:07,655 [soft suspenseful music] 1581 01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:09,222 Why does this matter now? 1582 01:19:10,267 --> 01:19:11,703 Horror conventions? 1583 01:19:11,877 --> 01:19:12,965 There are no more people around 1584 01:19:13,139 --> 01:19:15,054 to go to horror conventions. 1585 01:19:15,751 --> 01:19:17,927 But what great experiences they were. 1586 01:19:18,536 --> 01:19:20,103 Men, women and children 1587 01:19:20,277 --> 01:19:22,409 from all over the world came together 1588 01:19:22,583 --> 01:19:24,281 to share their mutual love 1589 01:19:24,455 --> 01:19:26,674 for such brilliant art forms. 1590 01:19:26,849 --> 01:19:29,416 But it's all gone now. [pants] 1591 01:19:31,157 --> 01:19:34,117 It's all gone, and this is all pointless. 1592 01:19:37,033 --> 01:19:38,382 I, I'm done with this bullshit. 1593 01:19:38,556 --> 01:19:39,600 [electricity zaps] 1594 01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:43,256 No need for hostility, Christopher. 1595 01:19:44,301 --> 01:19:46,651 I am merely trying to share my knowledge with you. 1596 01:19:47,870 --> 01:19:49,219 As it stands, 1597 01:19:49,872 --> 01:19:51,612 I am the only friend you have. 1598 01:19:52,700 --> 01:19:55,138 So please take a seat. 1599 01:19:56,487 --> 01:19:59,882 We have arrived at the conclusion of your lesson. 1600 01:20:00,056 --> 01:20:01,666 The most crucial chapter. 1601 01:20:02,362 --> 01:20:04,103 Now is the time to find out 1602 01:20:04,277 --> 01:20:07,367 exactly why metal and horror work so well together. 1603 01:20:07,541 --> 01:20:09,848 What is it that makes these two genres 1604 01:20:10,022 --> 01:20:11,807 so compatible with one another? 1605 01:20:12,285 --> 01:20:15,462 It has all been leading up to this. 1606 01:20:16,637 --> 01:20:17,682 [glitches] 1607 01:20:17,856 --> 01:20:19,858 Horror has become very visible. 1608 01:20:20,032 --> 01:20:22,078 And this is where it gets interesting 1609 01:20:22,252 --> 01:20:24,384 in terms of sort of censors trying to come in. 1610 01:20:24,558 --> 01:20:29,085 We had the, um, big videotape censorship scandal in the, in the UK 1611 01:20:29,259 --> 01:20:31,130 with the, uh, the whole concept of video nasties. 1612 01:20:31,304 --> 01:20:34,264 The efforts in the UK were to look at extreme movies, 1613 01:20:34,438 --> 01:20:36,875 and put a lot of these same boundaries 1614 01:20:37,049 --> 01:20:38,703 around these films 1615 01:20:38,877 --> 01:20:41,140 as you would around pornography titles. 1616 01:20:41,314 --> 01:20:46,493 So all of a sudden, you have the Evil Dead being treated the same way 1617 01:20:46,667 --> 01:20:48,321 as a woman blowing a donkey. 1618 01:20:48,495 --> 01:20:51,063 This fear that, that people were watching stuff like 1619 01:20:51,237 --> 01:20:53,065 Driller Killeron video in their homes 1620 01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:55,459 and they couldn't be trusted with this material. 1621 01:20:55,633 --> 01:20:57,809 And it was opening up their dark side, 1622 01:20:57,983 --> 01:20:59,376 and it would lead to copycat killings. 1623 01:20:59,550 --> 01:21:01,117 Horror and, and, and metal 1624 01:21:01,291 --> 01:21:05,077 really became co-defendants 1625 01:21:05,251 --> 01:21:09,255 in the Satanic Panic scandal of the late 1980s, early '90s, 1626 01:21:09,429 --> 01:21:10,648 [Eric] People use that phrase "Satanic Panic." 1627 01:21:10,822 --> 01:21:13,564 They always focus on the "Satanic" part. 1628 01:21:13,738 --> 01:21:16,436 But this was extreme or too extreme. 1629 01:21:17,046 --> 01:21:19,570 They never focus on the "Panic" part, 1630 01:21:19,744 --> 01:21:21,746 which is what it really was. 1631 01:21:22,225 --> 01:21:26,098 -[people screaming] -[Eric] People overreacting, misdirected... 1632 01:21:27,230 --> 01:21:30,189 ...and spending all their energy freaking out 1633 01:21:30,755 --> 01:21:32,626 and not actually fixing a problem. 1634 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,673 There was a real sense that if you watched 1635 01:21:36,152 --> 01:21:38,763 these things or were exposed to these things, 1636 01:21:38,937 --> 01:21:42,071 it was dangerous, and it twisted you and it made you into a monster. 1637 01:21:42,245 --> 01:21:45,552 Sometime around late 1984, early 1985, 1638 01:21:45,726 --> 01:21:48,947 a group of wives in Washington DC, 1639 01:21:49,121 --> 01:21:50,557 wives of very influential people, 1640 01:21:50,731 --> 01:21:53,952 business people, senators, congress people 1641 01:21:54,126 --> 01:21:56,824 were kind of having casual conversations about the concerns 1642 01:21:56,999 --> 01:21:58,870 about the content of music. 1643 01:21:59,044 --> 01:22:01,786 They thought the lyrics were, uh, too extreme. 1644 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,223 They thought videos that were recorded for songs 1645 01:22:04,397 --> 01:22:07,748 were often too graphic to sexualize these type of things. 1646 01:22:07,923 --> 01:22:10,099 And their solution for this 1647 01:22:10,273 --> 01:22:12,884 was to create a group called the Parents Music Resource Center. 1648 01:22:13,058 --> 01:22:16,235 They came up with this list, called "The Filthy Fifteen," 1649 01:22:16,409 --> 01:22:19,195 Half of that list is heavy metal artists. 1650 01:22:19,369 --> 01:22:22,024 So you had Black Sabbath. You had Judas Priest. 1651 01:22:22,198 --> 01:22:24,287 You had Moötley Cruüe, W.A.S.P., Venom, 1652 01:22:24,461 --> 01:22:28,247 AC/DC, Twisted Sister, Def Leppard, Mercyful Fate. 1653 01:22:28,421 --> 01:22:31,424 It culminated in September of 1985, 1654 01:22:31,598 --> 01:22:34,558 with hearings before the U. S. Senate Commerce Committee 1655 01:22:34,732 --> 01:22:36,864 to decide what should be done about this. 1656 01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:39,084 People went to jail over this stuff. 1657 01:22:39,258 --> 01:22:42,609 People were sued, people had incredible legal bills 1658 01:22:42,783 --> 01:22:44,481 because of this artwork they decided to put 1659 01:22:44,655 --> 01:22:46,526 on the inside sleeve of an album. 1660 01:22:46,700 --> 01:22:48,964 I mean, it destroyed people. 1661 01:22:49,616 --> 01:22:51,488 And it was all over nothing. 1662 01:22:51,662 --> 01:22:54,056 -You cannot legislate morality. -[man] Mr. Carter. 1663 01:22:54,230 --> 01:22:56,101 -Or music, or people's minds. -[man] There is no-- 1664 01:22:56,275 --> 01:22:58,103 -But we'll bring you down, man. -[man] I have a teenage 1665 01:22:58,277 --> 01:22:59,452 -daughter. -We're here. We'll bring you down. 1666 01:22:59,626 --> 01:23:01,715 [heavy metal music] 1667 01:23:01,889 --> 01:23:04,370 In 1986, I was in a film called Trick or Treat, 1668 01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:06,677 with Ozzy Osbourne and Gene Simmons. 1669 01:23:06,851 --> 01:23:08,940 Two of the biggest names in heavy metal music brought a lot to the movie. 1670 01:23:09,114 --> 01:23:11,682 I think that's, you know, a big reason why people went the first place. 1671 01:23:11,856 --> 01:23:14,293 I don't think it was Skippy from Family Ties who was the big draw. 1672 01:23:14,467 --> 01:23:17,209 It was right at the height of that whole Tipper Gore, 1673 01:23:17,383 --> 01:23:20,082 anti-heavy metal music warning labels 1674 01:23:20,256 --> 01:23:23,563 on the album's trying to turn the tide of, 1675 01:23:23,737 --> 01:23:25,174 I don't know what she expected, 1676 01:23:25,348 --> 01:23:26,566 Pat Boone to come back into style or something. 1677 01:23:26,740 --> 01:23:29,134 I don't know. But, um, people forget 1678 01:23:29,308 --> 01:23:30,875 what a big deal that was at the time. 1679 01:23:31,049 --> 01:23:32,746 And so this movie tapped into that a little bit. 1680 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,359 Eddie Ragman Weinbauer, he's not the cool kid. 1681 01:23:36,533 --> 01:23:39,231 He's the heavy metal nerd. 1682 01:23:39,405 --> 01:23:41,842 You know, he decked out the room and all the heavy metal posters, 1683 01:23:42,017 --> 01:23:43,583 and he had all the T-shirts and everything. 1684 01:23:43,757 --> 01:23:45,498 You know, the girls don't care about him and the guys 1685 01:23:45,672 --> 01:23:46,891 hate him, and everybody's picking on him, 1686 01:23:47,065 --> 01:23:48,893 and he's kind of feeling all alone. 1687 01:23:49,067 --> 01:23:52,114 And thenhishero comes back to life in his bedroom, 1688 01:23:52,288 --> 01:23:55,726 through the backward masking of the records and offers to help. 1689 01:23:55,900 --> 01:23:58,990 And how cool is that? Imagine that. Who doesn't want someone to help them 1690 01:23:59,556 --> 01:24:00,861 get back at their bullies? 1691 01:24:01,340 --> 01:24:03,821 I think people, uh, related to the Eddie character 1692 01:24:03,995 --> 01:24:06,606 'cause, uh, they were going through the same thing, you know? 1693 01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:08,826 They were the outsiders and the outcasts. 1694 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,481 This movie gave them someone that was like them. 1695 01:24:11,655 --> 01:24:16,051 The impulse to express yourself and to explore pain, 1696 01:24:16,573 --> 01:24:18,836 suffering, transgression, 1697 01:24:19,010 --> 01:24:23,362 immorality, these are things that are in our essential makeup. 1698 01:24:23,536 --> 01:24:25,582 We are interested in our dark side 1699 01:24:25,756 --> 01:24:29,064 because without understanding our dark side, we can't control it. 1700 01:24:29,238 --> 01:24:31,631 Heavy metal music and horror films, 1701 01:24:31,805 --> 01:24:35,157 the people who are attracted to them, attracted to them because 1702 01:24:35,809 --> 01:24:39,378 what is mainstream and normal and popular doesn't work for them. 1703 01:24:39,552 --> 01:24:42,381 It doesn't frame the world that they feel. 1704 01:24:42,555 --> 01:24:44,079 It doesn't frame the world that they see. 1705 01:24:44,253 --> 01:24:46,603 It's a taboo thing that I think 1706 01:24:46,777 --> 01:24:48,822 connects with young people because they think 1707 01:24:48,996 --> 01:24:51,477 it's a conduit to something that they don't understand. 1708 01:24:51,651 --> 01:24:53,697 Or that they want to understand 1709 01:24:53,871 --> 01:24:56,178 and something they wanna see that they've been forbidden to see. 1710 01:24:56,352 --> 01:24:59,964 The, um, heavy metal music 1711 01:25:00,138 --> 01:25:03,750 and the horror genre in films 1712 01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:10,061 have an interesting relationship because they both pressed the evil side 1713 01:25:10,801 --> 01:25:11,932 of man. 1714 01:25:12,107 --> 01:25:14,413 The heavy metal artists are 1715 01:25:14,587 --> 01:25:17,416 pushing the frontier and pushing the envelope 1716 01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:20,593 of their craft and their gift, 1717 01:25:20,767 --> 01:25:22,987 and their creativity. 1718 01:25:23,509 --> 01:25:25,859 There is a dark side to heavy metal. 1719 01:25:26,686 --> 01:25:30,168 And there certainly is a dark side to the horror genre. 1720 01:25:30,342 --> 01:25:33,258 [Ron] The monster characters scared people. 1721 01:25:33,432 --> 01:25:37,741 First time seeing the phantom on a screen, or people change their looks. 1722 01:25:37,915 --> 01:25:39,482 They were shocking to people. 1723 01:25:39,656 --> 01:25:41,614 And I think the rock stars scared a lot of people, 1724 01:25:41,788 --> 01:25:44,008 certainly the generation before them. 1725 01:25:44,182 --> 01:25:47,446 Maybe that's why there's that affiliation and associations 1726 01:25:47,620 --> 01:25:49,796 with one another that they identify 1727 01:25:49,970 --> 01:25:52,625 to some degree, their genres. 1728 01:25:52,799 --> 01:25:56,586 Sometimes the shows are theatrical, like King Diamond, 1729 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,154 like Alice Cooper, like Rob Zombie. 1730 01:25:59,328 --> 01:26:00,894 There is a visual feast that goes along 1731 01:26:01,068 --> 01:26:03,462 with the, the audio, uh, feast. 1732 01:26:03,636 --> 01:26:06,073 People like a show. And metal bands 1733 01:26:06,248 --> 01:26:09,294 and movies give people a show. It's escapism. 1734 01:26:09,468 --> 01:26:14,734 As long as there are kids in their teens going through angst, 1735 01:26:14,908 --> 01:26:16,301 there's gonna be aggressive music, 1736 01:26:16,475 --> 01:26:18,260 and there's gonna be aggressive imaging. 1737 01:26:18,434 --> 01:26:19,609 So between horror movies and metal, 1738 01:26:19,783 --> 01:26:21,872 that certainly plays a big part in it. 1739 01:26:22,046 --> 01:26:26,529 I think a lot of us in, who, who chose to play heavy metal, 1740 01:26:26,703 --> 01:26:29,967 uh, or hard rock are somewhat outcasts. 1741 01:26:30,141 --> 01:26:35,451 And I think we kind of look at these monsters as, as too. 1742 01:26:35,625 --> 01:26:37,670 But there's something that draws us together. 1743 01:26:37,844 --> 01:26:41,413 And f-- for me, that was one way of meeting people too. 1744 01:26:41,587 --> 01:26:43,589 Like, you're a horror fan. Great. 1745 01:26:43,763 --> 01:26:46,288 We're gonna get along just great. You like metal? Oh. Even better. 1746 01:26:46,462 --> 01:26:47,941 I think people wanna feel something. 1747 01:26:48,115 --> 01:26:49,987 They wanna feel something powerful, 1748 01:26:50,161 --> 01:26:52,076 and fear is one of those things. 1749 01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:54,252 And, you know, listening to music is such an elation. 1750 01:26:54,426 --> 01:26:57,429 And metal, especially, is so, you know, so angry. 1751 01:26:57,603 --> 01:27:00,171 When you're a kid, you know, that just feeling something 1752 01:27:00,345 --> 01:27:01,999 is so important for people who are fans of, 1753 01:27:02,173 --> 01:27:04,219 of metal and horror. 1754 01:27:04,393 --> 01:27:06,960 If you're the nerd in school, if you're having-- 1755 01:27:07,134 --> 01:27:09,659 your parents are in your case, or the bullies beaten you up, 1756 01:27:09,833 --> 01:27:12,183 you can go watch a horror movie and, like, say like, 1757 01:27:12,357 --> 01:27:15,360 "If only this guy could be killed by Michael Myers." 1758 01:27:15,534 --> 01:27:18,320 Or listen to some heavy metal and just get that aggression out. 1759 01:27:18,494 --> 01:27:20,583 Or go into a wrestling character or something. 1760 01:27:20,757 --> 01:27:24,021 And there is a certain element of show business that's dark. 1761 01:27:24,195 --> 01:27:26,850 Heavy metal music, for the most part is, is made 1762 01:27:27,372 --> 01:27:30,506 for the same reasons that horror movies are made, it's to let loose. 1763 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,073 It's to free that fear, it's to free that tension. 1764 01:27:33,248 --> 01:27:36,903 You are in this moment with, with heavy metal music, you know? 1765 01:27:37,077 --> 01:27:38,427 Like in the mosh pit. 1766 01:27:38,601 --> 01:27:40,646 You're just letting go of so much energy. 1767 01:27:40,820 --> 01:27:43,649 And so much emotion that should just been sitting on you all day. 1768 01:27:44,302 --> 01:27:46,565 You know, the escapism of heavy metal 1769 01:27:46,739 --> 01:27:49,742 is the same as the escapism of just sitting down with your friends 1770 01:27:49,916 --> 01:27:52,310 and watching a shit ton of fucking horror movies. 1771 01:27:52,484 --> 01:27:54,747 Which is honestly, there's nothing better than that, you know? 1772 01:27:54,921 --> 01:27:56,836 Metal is violent. Horror is violent. 1773 01:27:57,010 --> 01:27:58,621 Everybody likes fucking violence. 1774 01:27:58,795 --> 01:28:00,579 Violence gets people's dicks hard. 1775 01:28:00,753 --> 01:28:03,147 And when people's dicks are hard, they have fucking fun. 1776 01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:07,151 -And then we chop them off. -And then we chop your dick off. 1777 01:28:07,673 --> 01:28:10,807 There's some kind of an aggressive feeling in the music that 1778 01:28:10,981 --> 01:28:13,679 kind of goes with that feeling of superiority. 1779 01:28:13,853 --> 01:28:17,640 There's something very testosterone-driven about metal music. 1780 01:28:17,814 --> 01:28:19,903 And I think that if you're the killer, 1781 01:28:20,077 --> 01:28:21,861 if you're the monster, 1782 01:28:22,035 --> 01:28:25,604 you're in this place of massive total annihilating control. 1783 01:28:25,778 --> 01:28:28,172 And I think that that's one of the things that you feel as a player. 1784 01:28:28,346 --> 01:28:30,174 [Nameless Ghoul] Rock and roll is the devil. 1785 01:28:30,348 --> 01:28:32,481 And horror is the devil too, 1786 01:28:32,655 --> 01:28:35,048 so it's perfectly natural. 1787 01:28:35,222 --> 01:28:38,051 I think of heavy metal as really uncompromising. 1788 01:28:38,791 --> 01:28:41,925 You know, there are plenty of people who don't like heavy metal. So what? 1789 01:28:42,099 --> 01:28:46,669 There are plenty of people who don't like horror movies, and so what? 1790 01:28:46,843 --> 01:28:50,890 And I think that they share that sense of "We are what we are." 1791 01:28:51,064 --> 01:28:55,242 And the world we represent and are in is a very extreme one. 1792 01:28:55,417 --> 01:29:00,291 And it's not sweet and pretty like we'd like to pretend or some people wanna pretend. 1793 01:29:01,423 --> 01:29:03,250 Horror and metal work so well together 1794 01:29:03,425 --> 01:29:05,775 because of teenage boys. [chuckles] 1795 01:29:05,949 --> 01:29:08,212 We like scary stuff, 1796 01:29:08,386 --> 01:29:10,432 and we like heavy stuff. It's exciting. 1797 01:29:10,606 --> 01:29:12,738 The whole heavy metal sound again. 1798 01:29:12,912 --> 01:29:16,699 It's, uh, tempestuous guitars. A lot of them. 1799 01:29:16,873 --> 01:29:18,440 And the lyrics are usually 1800 01:29:19,092 --> 01:29:24,489 some form of rebellion and death, uh... danger. 1801 01:29:24,663 --> 01:29:26,491 And it's just slamming at you 1802 01:29:26,665 --> 01:29:29,364 with a beat, with a great beat. I mean, who doesn't love that? 1803 01:29:29,538 --> 01:29:34,543 Pop music can be with chick flicks or, or, or things like that, you know, 1804 01:29:34,717 --> 01:29:37,633 they just go hand in hand. But luckily, we got the horror. 1805 01:29:38,285 --> 01:29:40,853 [Jonathan] 'Cause I think it's just about ex-- being extreme. 1806 01:29:41,027 --> 01:29:42,942 Extreme gore, extreme being scared. 1807 01:29:43,116 --> 01:29:44,814 Extreme, it's just extreme. 1808 01:29:44,988 --> 01:29:47,730 Horror fans and metal fans just are looking for that fix, 1809 01:29:48,383 --> 01:29:50,602 and that's what, you know, metal and horror does. 1810 01:29:51,516 --> 01:29:55,477 You don't normally have extreme pop songs that shock people. 1811 01:29:55,651 --> 01:29:57,348 When you want something extreme, 1812 01:29:57,522 --> 01:30:00,656 you take it to the highest level it can go, which is heavy metal. 1813 01:30:00,830 --> 01:30:06,575 You can't just walk by a metal band playing and not, "Holy fuck! Whoa!" 1814 01:30:06,749 --> 01:30:10,100 You know, no matter what kind of music do you like, horror is the same thing. 1815 01:30:10,274 --> 01:30:13,756 We're the extreme edges of that art form. 1816 01:30:13,930 --> 01:30:17,586 It's a lot cooler in the outer limits. Join us. 1817 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,632 I think there's a lot of, like, shock value with horror. 1818 01:30:20,806 --> 01:30:23,113 And I think with metal, it's also the same thing. 1819 01:30:23,287 --> 01:30:27,378 You wanna have that impact. They're gonna make you go to maybe a dark side 1820 01:30:27,552 --> 01:30:30,207 which everyone has and they don't like to go to. 1821 01:30:30,381 --> 01:30:31,817 But It's kind of make you realize 1822 01:30:31,991 --> 01:30:35,081 that this is a part of humanity that exists. 1823 01:30:35,255 --> 01:30:37,170 It's like all the dark, 1824 01:30:37,344 --> 01:30:40,347 unrestrained urges of destruction. 1825 01:30:40,913 --> 01:30:43,916 Yeah, you've got plenty of scary images. 1826 01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:46,571 And the more you try and escape yourself, 1827 01:30:46,745 --> 01:30:48,268 the more you'll see. 1828 01:30:48,878 --> 01:30:50,357 It just meshes well. 1829 01:30:50,532 --> 01:30:54,361 You know, if you have extremely intense scene 1830 01:30:54,536 --> 01:30:57,843 in a horror film where it has to be hard-driving, 1831 01:30:58,017 --> 01:31:00,498 scary and suspenseful and stuff, 1832 01:31:00,672 --> 01:31:02,413 I think metal music works well with it. 1833 01:31:02,587 --> 01:31:06,983 That music is aggressive and can be in your face. 1834 01:31:07,157 --> 01:31:09,638 And so can many good horror movies too. 1835 01:31:09,812 --> 01:31:12,945 If you're listening to a heavy metal album, it's a release. 1836 01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:15,078 People are in the mosh pit, they're, they're working out 1837 01:31:15,252 --> 01:31:17,036 their angst in a horror movie. 1838 01:31:17,210 --> 01:31:18,734 It's kind of the same thing. You see people getting, 1839 01:31:18,908 --> 01:31:21,258 you know, and you get all... [imitates pleasure] 1840 01:31:21,432 --> 01:31:23,565 ...and, uh, in the end, you know it's not real. 1841 01:31:23,739 --> 01:31:25,044 It's-- That's, I think, the bottom line. 1842 01:31:25,218 --> 01:31:27,090 It's kind of like a fantasy. 1843 01:31:27,264 --> 01:31:30,093 A good heavy metal song... 1844 01:31:31,094 --> 01:31:33,836 ...should be like a good horror movie, you know? 1845 01:31:34,010 --> 01:31:38,318 Exciting to watch or listen to with a lot of dynamics. 1846 01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:40,712 I'm not really sure where it's gonna take you, 1847 01:31:40,886 --> 01:31:43,498 but once you get there, you're glad to be there. 1848 01:31:43,672 --> 01:31:47,414 People are curious about the morbid, 1849 01:31:47,589 --> 01:31:49,504 skittish about the morbid, 1850 01:31:49,678 --> 01:31:52,507 and decided about the morbid, 1851 01:31:52,681 --> 01:31:54,378 and what is considered morbid. 1852 01:31:54,552 --> 01:31:59,035 But their fans out there of extreme bands 1853 01:31:59,209 --> 01:32:02,821 that play gore influence music, 1854 01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:08,261 that I think would like to live that lifestyle or whatnot. 1855 01:32:08,435 --> 01:32:11,134 So many different connections. 1856 01:32:11,613 --> 01:32:14,485 [Sid] The music and the horror genre 1857 01:32:14,659 --> 01:32:17,967 are defiant against society, okay? 1858 01:32:18,141 --> 01:32:20,273 And those things work together. 1859 01:32:20,447 --> 01:32:24,060 They're just totally opposed to anything conventional. 1860 01:32:24,234 --> 01:32:26,889 The real hardcore horror fans are, 1861 01:32:27,063 --> 01:32:30,022 you know, a niche. They're like a brotherhood. And fans of metal and hard rock 1862 01:32:30,196 --> 01:32:32,547 are very much the same. They kind of feel like a little bit 1863 01:32:32,721 --> 01:32:36,376 of an outcast and maybe don't get the attention or respect they deserve, 1864 01:32:36,551 --> 01:32:38,901 and I think they kind of gravitate towards each other, some. 1865 01:32:39,075 --> 01:32:40,816 [Tom] I did a music video with Dee Snider, 1866 01:32:40,990 --> 01:32:44,341 and Alice Cooper called "Be Chrool to Your Scuel." 1867 01:32:44,515 --> 01:32:48,345 And Alice talks about Dee Snider and himself being hard fanatics. 1868 01:32:48,519 --> 01:32:49,955 Every Saturday, they're at horror movies. 1869 01:32:50,129 --> 01:32:52,654 And so I see a connection in the heavy metal bands 1870 01:32:52,828 --> 01:32:55,874 of the people that I know and horror movies. 1871 01:32:56,048 --> 01:32:59,922 Horror is the dark side of, of, of movies or storytelling, 1872 01:33:00,096 --> 01:33:02,838 and I think our music is the dark side of everything as well. 1873 01:33:03,012 --> 01:33:04,622 Heavy metal has always been dark. 1874 01:33:04,796 --> 01:33:06,711 There's no puppy dogs and ice cream in heavy metal. 1875 01:33:06,885 --> 01:33:10,280 At least alive puppy dogs and ice cream without blood in it. 1876 01:33:10,454 --> 01:33:12,108 We want that aggression. 1877 01:33:12,282 --> 01:33:14,676 We want something that's almost, in a sense, scary. 1878 01:33:14,850 --> 01:33:16,242 You go to a Slayer show, 1879 01:33:16,416 --> 01:33:18,810 and the anticipation of that band coming on 1880 01:33:18,984 --> 01:33:22,118 when you're standing on the floor, where you know that pit is going to break out, 1881 01:33:22,292 --> 01:33:24,860 is very similar to sitting in a movie theater, 1882 01:33:25,034 --> 01:33:27,036 knowing that something's gonna happen 1883 01:33:27,210 --> 01:33:28,690 that's gonna scare the shit out of me. 1884 01:33:28,864 --> 01:33:31,867 As humans, I don't know why some of us crave 1885 01:33:32,041 --> 01:33:33,782 and need that in our lives. 1886 01:33:33,956 --> 01:33:36,567 But I'm just glad it's out there for us. 1887 01:33:36,741 --> 01:33:37,829 [chuckles] 1888 01:33:38,003 --> 01:33:39,918 Listen to the sound of metal. 1889 01:33:40,092 --> 01:33:42,312 It's so focused on tri tones 1890 01:33:42,486 --> 01:33:45,402 and tensions that, you know, it, it-- 1891 01:33:46,011 --> 01:33:47,839 -What the fuck? -[man] We gotta go. Let's go. 1892 01:33:48,013 --> 01:33:50,102 All right. Well, we have to go. And what I'm trying to tell you 1893 01:33:50,276 --> 01:33:53,149 is that the sound of metal, metal sounds terrifying. 1894 01:33:53,323 --> 01:33:56,152 Movies are terrifying. That's the connection for me. 1895 01:33:56,326 --> 01:33:58,284 [Rob] For some reason, those two genres maybe just connected 1896 01:33:58,458 --> 01:34:00,809 because they just, they get no respect. 1897 01:34:02,027 --> 01:34:06,292 Which is fine because who cares? They're still here. 1898 01:34:06,466 --> 01:34:10,557 I think the future is a more cohesive bond. 1899 01:34:10,732 --> 01:34:15,388 Especially as movies become more appreciative and respectful 1900 01:34:15,562 --> 01:34:17,434 of, uh, rock and roll and heavy metal, 1901 01:34:17,608 --> 01:34:20,959 and industrial, all these different kinds of, uh, musics 1902 01:34:21,133 --> 01:34:23,396 as a soundtrack to stories. 1903 01:34:23,570 --> 01:34:28,401 I think when you take a look at the, uh, metal concept and the horror concept, 1904 01:34:28,575 --> 01:34:32,405 that they've intertwined so much over the last three decades 1905 01:34:33,145 --> 01:34:36,061 that they will never unwind. They'll always be together. 1906 01:34:36,235 --> 01:34:39,238 So you're going to see them continue to evolve and develop together. 1907 01:34:39,412 --> 01:34:41,763 To watch where they go and how they continue to grow, 1908 01:34:41,937 --> 01:34:43,634 I think it's gonna be exciting for all of us, 1909 01:34:43,808 --> 01:34:47,116 both as the actors and the performers, and as a fan. 1910 01:34:47,290 --> 01:34:50,902 You got to move forward. You can't just stay in the past. 1911 01:34:51,076 --> 01:34:55,254 You've got to move forward. It'll never stop because those are the main genres 1912 01:34:55,428 --> 01:34:58,301 that will appeal to, uh, the audience. 1913 01:34:58,475 --> 01:35:02,740 To keep the history alive, I think we need to embrace our fears. 1914 01:35:02,914 --> 01:35:06,439 If you talk about exorcising the demons that are inside yourself, 1915 01:35:06,613 --> 01:35:08,877 the best way to do that is to share them with other people. 1916 01:35:09,051 --> 01:35:11,009 [Dani] I think metal and horror will always be with us. 1917 01:35:11,183 --> 01:35:15,100 And when it starts fizzling out, people start running out of ideas, 1918 01:35:15,274 --> 01:35:18,321 it would just, you know, like everything go around in a circle 1919 01:35:18,495 --> 01:35:20,062 and we're back at square one again. 1920 01:35:20,236 --> 01:35:22,804 I think that horror and... 1921 01:35:23,892 --> 01:35:27,504 ...heavy metal music are going to stay together forever. 1922 01:35:27,678 --> 01:35:31,508 There's that angst that everybody is drawn to. 1923 01:35:32,161 --> 01:35:34,641 These very dark images. 1924 01:35:34,816 --> 01:35:36,078 I think it's just, 1925 01:35:37,035 --> 01:35:38,689 just going to stay here forever. 1926 01:35:40,647 --> 01:35:42,084 And there you have it. 1927 01:35:42,911 --> 01:35:46,741 Metal and horror, a perfect match. 1928 01:35:47,698 --> 01:35:49,395 Any questions? 1929 01:35:50,048 --> 01:35:54,574 Um, a crossover between the two is fascinating and definitely unique. 1930 01:35:55,532 --> 01:35:57,316 Those attracted to the dark and aggressive 1931 01:35:57,490 --> 01:35:59,971 clearly found their outlets for expression and pleasure. 1932 01:36:00,624 --> 01:36:03,496 The two art forms go hand in hand, without question. 1933 01:36:04,715 --> 01:36:06,543 Well, I'm happy to hear you say that. 1934 01:36:07,892 --> 01:36:10,547 Your lesson is now complete. 1935 01:36:12,157 --> 01:36:14,507 So what happens now? 1936 01:36:15,552 --> 01:36:18,555 I give you the grand finale. 1937 01:36:19,861 --> 01:36:21,427 What's the grand finale? 1938 01:36:24,430 --> 01:36:27,346 [eerie music] 1939 01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,136 [music increases and fades out] 1940 01:36:37,269 --> 01:36:38,401 [scary music] 1941 01:36:46,365 --> 01:36:47,453 Hello, 1942 01:36:48,063 --> 01:36:49,629 from the other side. 1943 01:37:08,910 --> 01:37:10,825 [wet swipes] 1944 01:37:10,999 --> 01:37:13,262 [evil laugh] 1945 01:37:15,438 --> 01:37:17,744 [heavy metal music] 1946 01:37:31,497 --> 01:37:33,238 I just always liked being scared. 1947 01:37:33,412 --> 01:37:35,066 I like the creativity that's behind, 1948 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,068 uh, being able to scare somebody. 1949 01:37:37,242 --> 01:37:38,591 Always loved a really good horror movie that could 1950 01:37:38,765 --> 01:37:40,376 kind of stick with you afterwards. 1951 01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:43,422 I just grew up watching that stuff at very young age 1952 01:37:43,596 --> 01:37:48,166 I know it's not very, you know, a "good parent thing to do." [chuckles] 1953 01:37:48,340 --> 01:37:50,255 They're thrilling. They're exciting. 1954 01:37:50,429 --> 01:37:52,431 -I mean, at certain times, they're suspense-- -Death metal! 1955 01:37:52,605 --> 01:37:54,477 And it's just a lot of fun to watch either way, 1956 01:37:54,651 --> 01:37:56,174 I think people like being scared, 1957 01:37:56,348 --> 01:37:58,481 and they all have this, um, dark side themselves 1958 01:37:58,655 --> 01:38:00,483 that a lot of people, you know, kind of keep hidden, 1959 01:38:00,657 --> 01:38:03,703 but it's kind of a way for them to let their dark side out. 1960 01:38:03,878 --> 01:38:06,445 Really like the old-school campy films and stuff. 1961 01:38:06,619 --> 01:38:09,622 But, um, John Carpenter's Halloween is what really got me into it 1962 01:38:09,796 --> 01:38:12,103 when I was like about eight years old and I just, like, 1963 01:38:12,277 --> 01:38:14,976 really absorbed the culture of horror and everything. 1964 01:38:15,150 --> 01:38:18,501 The scares, it's the shock value I'd have to say. 1965 01:38:18,675 --> 01:38:20,372 The villains are the best. 1966 01:38:20,546 --> 01:38:22,505 We've got Pinhead in the H, 1967 01:38:22,679 --> 01:38:25,551 Michael Myers in the O, Leatherface in the R, 1968 01:38:25,725 --> 01:38:27,510 Pennywise in the other R... 1969 01:38:28,772 --> 01:38:31,601 ...Jason in the O, and Freddy in the R. 1970 01:38:32,123 --> 01:38:36,693 I like horror because... [scoffs] I like violence in general, pretty much. 1971 01:38:36,867 --> 01:38:40,131 It's just a way for me to be different than anyone else. 1972 01:38:40,305 --> 01:38:43,700 What I love about horror is the, it's the, it's like the roller coaster thing. 1973 01:38:43,874 --> 01:38:46,616 You're just enjoying that moment, that edge of fear. 1974 01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:48,270 I've thrown myself in there, you know? 1975 01:38:48,444 --> 01:38:50,141 It's been a taboo for the longest time, you know? 1976 01:38:50,315 --> 01:38:52,143 For the longest time, yeah. Then finally, when metal came, 1977 01:38:52,317 --> 01:38:53,840 metal was pretty taboo at the time, 1978 01:38:54,015 --> 01:38:56,582 and they just kind of like came together. 1979 01:39:01,109 --> 01:39:03,372 I love heavy metal. Uh, I don't know, 1980 01:39:03,546 --> 01:39:05,026 I've loved this since I was 12 years old. 1981 01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,766 It really gets your pum-- your blood pumping 1982 01:39:06,941 --> 01:39:08,725 and your, uh, your adrenaline going. 1983 01:39:08,899 --> 01:39:10,292 Just like watching a horror movie. 1984 01:39:10,466 --> 01:39:12,468 Uh, it's loud, it's extreme. 1985 01:39:13,034 --> 01:39:14,687 It just gets me in a certain mood, you know? 1986 01:39:14,861 --> 01:39:16,951 I listen to it, I feel energized. 1987 01:39:17,125 --> 01:39:20,563 I go into mosh pits. So, like, I love to have a music I move to. 1988 01:39:20,737 --> 01:39:23,435 You can't beat the shit out of somebody with Taylor Swift, all right? 1989 01:39:25,394 --> 01:39:27,570 Takes a lot of... [giggling] energy to do it. 1990 01:39:27,744 --> 01:39:30,007 The imagery goes together so well, I mean, look at the, uh, 1991 01:39:30,181 --> 01:39:31,530 covers of, like, old Iron Maiden album, 1992 01:39:31,704 --> 01:39:33,402 it's, it's straight up horror right there. 1993 01:39:33,576 --> 01:39:35,882 And they just go hand in hand. You put a horror movie on, 1994 01:39:36,057 --> 01:39:38,059 you could turn the, you could turn the sound off. 1995 01:39:38,233 --> 01:39:40,322 And put a, then put a record on horror, 1996 01:39:40,496 --> 01:39:43,847 you know, death metal or metal, whatever, it goes hand in hand. 1997 01:39:44,021 --> 01:39:47,982 They both kind of feel off-limits in a certain way, you know? 1998 01:39:48,156 --> 01:39:50,288 Like something that you're not supposed to be doing, 1999 01:39:50,462 --> 01:39:53,030 but, you know, you do anyways. 2000 01:39:53,204 --> 01:39:55,728 Favorite of all time? I would have to say 2001 01:39:55,902 --> 01:39:58,905 tie between An American Werewolf in London and the first Halloween. 2002 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,865 I am a huge Black Sabbath fan. 2003 01:40:02,039 --> 01:40:05,129 It has to be Hellraiser. I'm all about Doug Bradley. 2004 01:40:05,303 --> 01:40:07,001 Iron Maiden, Metallica. 2005 01:40:07,175 --> 01:40:09,655 The Chucky series and the Freddy Krueger movies. 2006 01:40:09,829 --> 01:40:11,222 Maiden, oh yeah, Judas Priest. 2007 01:40:11,396 --> 01:40:13,094 Halloween,um, Evil Dead. 2008 01:40:13,268 --> 01:40:14,573 Deicide, Cannibal Corpse. 2009 01:40:14,747 --> 01:40:16,749 -Probably Alien. -Slipknot. 2010 01:40:16,923 --> 01:40:18,969 -[indistinct chatter in the background] -The Texas Chainsaw. 2011 01:40:19,143 --> 01:40:21,711 Bands like The Black Dahlia Murder and Dying Fetus. 2012 01:40:21,885 --> 01:40:24,409 -I will do that. [laughs] -Definitely Anthrax. 2013 01:40:24,583 --> 01:40:25,802 Friday the 13th. 2014 01:40:26,368 --> 01:40:27,543 You can't go wrong with that. 2015 01:40:27,717 --> 01:40:30,154 Alice Cooper, uh, King Diamond. 2016 01:40:31,112 --> 01:40:32,765 The Exorcist.[chuckles] 2017 01:40:33,723 --> 01:40:37,161 Metal guys, they always push themselves to, to break ground, 2018 01:40:37,335 --> 01:40:38,989 break new ground, break barriers. 2019 01:40:39,163 --> 01:40:40,947 I think horror does the same thing. 2020 01:40:41,122 --> 01:40:43,689 And when you put them together, it's fucking sex dude. 2021 01:40:44,386 --> 01:40:45,387 It's just pure sex. 2022 01:40:45,561 --> 01:40:46,736 [music ends]