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[woman] When I was a kid,
it was, like, have you ever had
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Lucky Charms,
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and you pour out the Lucky Charms
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and you get, like, a bowl of cereal
and three marshmallows,
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That's what it felt like to me,
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that there were
three Asian-American marshmallows.
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The Yellow Ranger
in Power Rangers...
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The Yellow Power Ranger...
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Um...
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Data from The Goonies
was one of my favorites.
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Margaret Cho on All-American Girl...
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Michelle Kwan in figure skating.
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I thought maybe Lois Lane
could be mixed race,
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-like I am.
-Captain Planet.
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[interviewer]
Captain Planet is Asian?
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Not Asian, but there was
an Asian character
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who had a dolphin friend.
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[dolphin chirps]
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[upbeat music playing]
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The Baby-Sitters Club is a series of books
that came out in the 80's and 90's.
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[Sarah Kuhn] It follows a group
of 13-year-old middle schoolers
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who are friends
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and they decide to form a business
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by babysitting the local kids
in their neighborhood.
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They're really concerned
about, um, quality child care...
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[laughs]
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which now seems, um...
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a little odd that they--
that was like their passion: babysitting.
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There's always
a new incident or adventure.
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There's fun drama.
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There's boy drama, of course.
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Stacey's going through
an issue with her dad.
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What's this jealousy when you think
Mary has a new best friend?
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Going shopping, babysitting,
spending time with her friends,
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going on cruises to Disney World.
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The Baby-Sitters Club was my childhood.
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I had...
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not only a really big collection
of Baby-Sitters Club books at home,
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I also would check them out
at the library periodically
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and even, like, check out old favorites.
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I voraciously read through
a good chunk,
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primarily through
the Scholastic Book Club orders.
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[sighs]
Y'all know what that is, I mean...
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I was reading them.
My friends were reading them.
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Once I got into it,
it was like...
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drugs for me.
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We've got the sleeping bag.
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I've got a bag. Um, I had a necklace.
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I had t-shirts. There were dolls.
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I had a CD-ROM game.
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I spent many hours on it.
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We would call each other
by those character names.
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We would try to dress
like those characters.
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[rewinding]
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Of course I was Claudia.
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"Suddenly, I sat up.
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All I could think about
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were Milky Way bars
and Ring-Dings and Oreos.
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Those were going to be
the subject of my next art project.
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I could see it so clearly,
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the series of pop art pieces:
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'Junk-Food Fantasy by Claudia Kishi.'
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The idea was brilliant.
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I couldn't wait to get started."
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[Phil Yu] Claudia Kishi is vice president
of The Baby-Sitters Club.
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She's also Japanese American.
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She loves junk food. She loves art.
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Kooky, eclectic, and...
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ahead of her time.
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I loved that she had hollowed-out books.
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I feel like that's something I still want,
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is, like, hollowed-out books
to-- to hide all of my candy.
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[Yumi Sakugawa] She's cool enough to have
her own landline in her bedroom,
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unheard of when you're a 13-year-old girl.
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Usually...
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um, the Asian character
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or the woman of color character
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is the one you feel like
you have to be, right?
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If you're playing Harry Potter,
you have to be Cho Chang.
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Whereas I feel like Claudia is the one
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everyone seems to want to be.
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"I love to dress in a way that some people
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here in Stoneybrook might call...
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outrageous."
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"At the moment I'm wearing
lavender plaid cuffed pants
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with suspenders..."
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"White tights with clocks on them."
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"I was wearing a man's paisley vest
I found at a yard sale..."
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"Huge pretend emeralds..."
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"Electric pink ankle boots."
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"I've got earrings shaped
like Christmas tree lights
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that blink on and off."
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Oh, my God.
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"Was it too much? I shook my head.
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I looked great."
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[Sarah Kuhn]
Claudia's style to me is very, like,
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tween girl meets Asian auntie.
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I feel like Claudia...
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knew what hipster fashion was gonna be
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20 years later.
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For an Asian American,
or any woman of color character,
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to be the cool one is so unusual.
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She is just a really awesome character
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who I felt like kind of busted through
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all the model minority stereotypes.
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"My family is conservative, but I'm wild.
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My sister and I have
next to nothing in common.
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She's super smart and likes school.
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My parents think she's wonderful.
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I wouldn't admit this to just anybody,
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but I have a feeling
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that I'm a big disappointment
to my parents."
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[whispers] Same.
[laughs]
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That was such a mood.
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That's like...
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That was such a, like...
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a big mood for, like--
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This is why I related to Claudia so much.
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[inhales deeply]
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Janine is like the kind of daughter
that every...
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that I felt that, like,
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my mom would've wanted,
and I was definitely not.
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And I...
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would constantly...
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have this specter of...
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the perfect daughter...
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kind of...
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hanging over me
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'cause I felt very aware
that I was not this person.
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I felt like Claudia.
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I wanted to
follow my heart and do creative things.
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I wanted to do art.
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I wanted to draw. I wanted to write.
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Claudia was so...
unapologetic about...
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who she was.
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She really showed that you could be
an artist, that you could be creative.
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Claudia Kishi
was this role model that just...
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hit me exactly right.
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Like, "Oh, this is like a puzzle piece
that fits right into my heart."
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"'The Lowells are prejudiced,'
said Kristy in a rush.
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'Claud, they didn't like you
because you're Japanese.
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Jessi, Mrs. Lowell
wouldn't even let you in her house
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because you're African-American.'
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My mouth dropped open.
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I could feel my hands trembling
and my cheeks burning.
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'That's-- That's not fair!'"
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[sighs]
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Congratulations, Claudia.
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You just learned a few things
about good old-fashioned racism.
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I thought about the cover
of "Keep Out, Claudia!"
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and I remember, like, it was her standing
outside the door
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with these Trump-looking white kids
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looking at her judgingly.
I thought it was like,
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"What if these covers
were really truthful?"
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I just thought, like, it'd be a great way
to talk about some microaggressions.
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Things that Asians
have to deal with every day,
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that Claudia probably
would have to deal with,
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but they never addressed
in the books.
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There is definitely that quality of...
um...
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I guess, othering, for sure, where
that a lot of these stories are being told
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from the perspectives
of young white girls.
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They, you know, somewhat problematically
made a point to describe her
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as always having almond-shaped eyes and...
um...
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jet-black hair
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and super beautiful skin,
even though she eats tons of junk food.
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[Phil] First time I read someone
described as "almond-shaped eyes."
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And I was like,
"What does that even mean?"
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In terms of racial representation
it definitely, like...
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How do I put this?
I noticed that--
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most of the people were white.
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[CB Lee]
When you don't see yourself in media,
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when you don't see mirrors of yourself,
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you go on thinking, "I'm broken," or...
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"I'm not normal," or "I don't exist."
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These thoughts,
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they're kind of subconscious,
but they, um...
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They're pervasive, especially
when you go on thinking that the world...
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is-- When you perceive the world...
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as a world without you in it.
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I remember, um,
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the person
with the really heavy cartoonish accent.
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And a lot of disposable side characters
and things like that that.
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That sort of generalized sense of being
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othered in media,
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of being the perpetual foreigner,
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of never being American.
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And I do remember that
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manifesting in school
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with every kid asking me where I was from,
um,
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or pulling their eyes back
to sort of, like,
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make fun of me.
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So, I definitely remember, um,
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how it affected me in real life.
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As someone who grew up, like, with--
with a Thai mom and a white dad, um,
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the Asian narratives I saw
didn't always jive with my experience,
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which contributed
to my questions of identity.
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[gong echoing]
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So, seeing someone like Claudia,
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who was kind of forging
her own path, definitely
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helped me feel more connected
to, um, my own identity.
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Just knowing there's not
one way to be an Asian person.
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I can just be me and that's fine.
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"I pulled out my box of
64 Crayola crayons with the sharpener.
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I sighed with happiness,
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and then I began to draw.
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My beautiful butterfly was finished."
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"'Claudia!' Said Miss Packet sternly.
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'Is this some kind of joke?'
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I could not answer her.
If I had, I would have cried."
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So, Mimi hears about this incident.
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Mimi, of course, this...
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awesome grandma who totally gets Claudia,
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who embraces Claudia's artsy side,
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and she's not gonna let this slide.
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So she goes up to the teacher.
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"She said, 'Miss Packet,
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I would like you please to respect
my Claudia's intelligence and imagination.
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You asked the children to draw themselves
the way they see themselves,
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and my Claudia sees herself
as a free spirit, like a butterfly.
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So, that is what she drew.'"
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Mic drop! Fuck, yes!
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[laughs]
Sorry, I didn't mean to swear. Um...
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Go, Mimi.
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It was such a beautiful story,
especially...
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since Asian American...
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children,
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they grow up being told by their elders
to-- to not stand out too much,
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to not create waves,
to fit in with the crowd.
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For an Asian American person
I felt like it was...
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extra special,
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the idea that we can...
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be our true selves and not...
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hide it from the world.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh...
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-[dreamy music playing]
-[pages turning]
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In 2013, I made a Zine called
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"Claudia Kishi: My Asian American
and Female Role Model of the 90's."
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It was just so exciting to see
how it struck a chord
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with other Asian American women readers.
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It was sort of, like,
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magical to realize we'd all been having
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the same experience,
you know, in different towns,
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everywhere reading these books,
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before we had a way
of connecting with each other.
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You can always tell
when somebody is a Claudia Kishi.
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There's a certain swagger
and there's definitely...
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There's definitely
a feeling of camaraderie
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when you see another Asian girl
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that maybe doesn't fit that
standard stereotype and,
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at the end of the day none of us
really fit the stereotype.
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Her legacy is that she's moved
beyond just this character.
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Kids who grew up in the 90's
are now adults
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making their way into the world,
creating their own works.
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I am a comic book artist,
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illustrator,
all-around interdisciplinary artist.
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[Phil Yu]
"Angry Asian Man" is a blog
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I started back in 2001.
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I'm working on The Baby-Sitters Club
as a series with Netflix.
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I write books and comic books
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about Asian American superheroines.
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I'm the graphic novelist currently working
on The Baby-Sitters Club adaptations.
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I'm the author
of The Sidekick Squad series.
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It's about a group of queer teens that
take on a corrupt government agency.
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"Fashion Forecasts" is a futuristic
collection of intergenerational,
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intersectional Asian American
fashion designs.
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Probably the biggest theme
that connects my work is--
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I call it "Asian girls having fun."
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I love to tell stories
about friendship, fantasy,
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being more than you are
when you come together.
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It's a way to have conversations about
who you are as Asian Americans.
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The girls are gonna be dealing with
issues happening now.
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You know, transgender rights,
prejudices against same-sex parents...
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The main characters
are Chinese and Vietnamese like me,
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and she's bisexual like me.
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[Gele] There's always gonna be
a challenge to make sure
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that we're seen as more
than just a fad or a sidekick.
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[Sarah] You can be a main character.
Have your own story.
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You can tell your own story
however you want.
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[Phil]
At some point I realized
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I didn't need permission to tell it
or for someone else to tell it for me.
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I wanna see people like me
doing cool shit. [laughs]
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[upbeat music playing]
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[CB Lee] I remember hanging out
with friends on the playground.
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Imagine, like,
five or six Asian American girls.
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[chipmunk voices speaking]
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[punches]
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We had that fight about
who gets to be Claudia, because...
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you know, we're so thirsty to be seen.
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We're thirsty for those
crumbs of representation.
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We're tired of just having crumbs.
We want the whole cookie.
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We're gonna go out
and bake our own cookies
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and put them out
so everyone can enjoy them.
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["Claudia Kishi"
by The Linda Lindas playing]
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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Her style looks funky, cool and fun ♪
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♪ And to me she is number one ♪
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♪ She's not afraid to wear all pink ♪
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♪ She don't care what people think ♪
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♪ I am Claudia Kishi ♪
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♪ You are Claudia Kishi ♪
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♪ She, a Claudia Kishi ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh... ooh ooh ♪