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(gentle pensive music)
- Glenn is as solid as they come.
What you see is what you get.
(thunder rumbling) - That's gonna be Kane.
That's gonna be Kane.
(gentle pensive music)
- Our relationship is really important.
I owe much of my career to him.
- There he is. (thunder rumbles)
The prince of darkness.
- What a beautiful family portrait this is.
- I'd only separate Undertaker from Kane.
- They're really, they're vital parts of each other.
- Kane is alive Undertaker.
(fire blasts)
- A choke slum into the casket.
The Undertaker is in that casket.
- One of the greatest on-running stories
I think WWE has ever told.
- Undertaker and Kane combined
make the most destructive force
in the history of the World Wrestling Federation.
- Yeah, we haven't talked to each other in a little while.
So I just want to see how he's doing.
(suspenseful dramatic music)
(bangs) (laughs)
(body slams)
- It's just fun to sit down with guys
that were in the trenches with you,
went through the struggles
and traveled up-down the road with.
It's just enjoyable to kind of relive those days.
- We have witnessed a war that is far from over.
- How you doing man? - How are you bro?
I'm good. - Good to see you.
- Good to see you too.
- Thanks for coming man.
- Yeah man, of course.
We actually going to tell stories?
- I guess, what do you want to talk about?
(dramatic music) (lightning striking)
(fire crackling)
- I want to introduce to you now my mystery partner.
I give you, The Undertaker (laughs).
- The Undertaker, the mystery partner is now revealed.
- I never heard of him.
- Oh, take a look. - Holy cow!
- I can't believe it's been 30 years since your debut.
Survivor Series, 1990 came out
with Bruce Prichard AKA Brother Love
and it shocked the world.
Cause like, who's this cat?
Big huge dude, super athletic.
(banging)
- Oh, look at this.
Undertaker all 325 pounds to the top, look at that.
(upbeat music)
- Who is that?
Tombstone.
(crowd cheering)
- I remember watching on TV one time
and you're choking the guy in the corner
and you're actually like hissing.
(hissing)
And I got goosebumps because I was like, okay,
I don't know if this cat's,
I don't know what's going on here
with this cat's scaring me, right.
- He's a little different, yeah.
And it was.
That character was different.
- Will you look at that.
- No you look at that.
I don't like to look at that, you look at that.
Rest in peace.
(door squeaking)
- The development of the character was,
it was like, so I studied all the great slashers, you know.
Jason Voorhees, he is from "Friday the 13th"
and Michael Myers from "Halloween" and even Freddy Kruger.
And I was like, okay, so I'm kinda these guys
but with a little bit more personality.
You know, I felt the character
and it really became second nature.
- You may not remember this.
I think the first time we ever met was Glens Falls,
New York or something like that.
I was just up doing a try out. - Try out, that's right?
- Yeah.
- This is the real deal baby.
This is the real deal.
- And it's the first time I'd ever seen you in person.
And I was just, I was scared
because you had all the makeup and stuff (laughs).
I was like, I was like, Oh God, that's The Undertaker.
And he really looks like The Undertaker.
- Yeah, what year, '95, '94?
- Nah man, I think that was probably like '93.
- Ooh, yeah. - Actually, I just started
in the business.
I was terrible. - I was scary.
I was scary all the time then.
(laughs)
- And then, then we skipped ahead a little bit.
You came to Smoky Mountain a couple times when I was there.
And there were, you did a couple shows for, for
it's something if I remember. - Yeah.
- And then we had our match.
- Unabom.
- Early August in 1995.
- And this can really serve the psychotic guy, can it?
Unabom has to keep his composure right now.
(crowd cheering)
- Yeah, I was stoked.
- The Undertaker.
- When you're there, you're always looking
for somebody to come along
that you can work with.
- Right.
- And here's this guy.
He's like whoa.
He's every bit as big as me, bigger.
- Leg drop on The Undertaker, what a move.
- You know, and I'm thinking, I'll be damned.
That guy can walk and chew gum.
(laughing)
I can do something with him.
- Thanks for setting the bar so high.
- What hey, the bar was set.
You had nothing to do with you.
The bar had already been set for me.
(crowd cheering)
- Both of these guys for their height
and their weight moves so well in the squared circle.
- I remember I was, I was excited
'cause you were on a heck of a run as,
as Unabom, down there.
And I'm not mistaken, I mean I'm not one to brag,
but I'm pretty sure that place was sold out that night.
- It was sold out.
- Trying to set up that tombstone, pile driver connects.
- And I thought we had, we had, had a great match
and yeah, I was really excited for you to come up.
I really wasn't too excited with your character.
- Next!
- I think I had more than one discussion early
with Vince about like, man, you're handcuffing this guy.
- Doctor Isaac Yankem, DDS.
- How did he come up with Isaac Yankem?
Did you ever go to dental school?
(laughs) 'Cause that's usually how,
if you made the mistake
of saying something.
- It's abscess.
- When I interviewed with, with, with Vince,
you know, I went, I went to the house, right.
And Bruce was there and Pat Patterson was there,
J.J. Dillon was there
and I remember Vince sitting there in his chair
and asking me, "Well, do you have any, any special talents?"
And you know, I didn't.
I was like, "Well, I, you know, I sing
"in the shower pretty good."
And as soon, as soon as it came out of my lips
I was trying to like, suck it back in.
(laughing)
Like, Oh my gosh, why did I say that?
'Cause you know how it was then, right.
I mean, that's kinda like if you had some kind
of crazy little thing, you're going to get
it's going to be your gimmick.
And that's just the way it was.
And I couldn't get it.
I was, I was trying and I was, I just backpedaled.
I was like, no, I really, I cannot sing.
(laughing)
You know, and then somebody else was like,
"What do you like to sing?"
I'm like, I can't sing.
(laughing)
Not even in the shower can I sing.
I was, I was a nervous wreck.
- Right now, we've got Isaac Yankem.
- But I do remember having discussions with Vince.
I'm like, are you sure that's,
I mean that's a big dude, you know?
And he says, "I know, that's what's so creepy about it.
"He's so big and he could, want to rip your teeth out."
I'm like, Oh boy, you know, Isaac Yankem.
Hmm, I'm not even sure I'm going to commit
that name to memory.
- Yeah, it was, I didn't either.
And that was actually one
of the biggest disappointments my entire life.
I go up to the office and meet with J.J Dillon.
He's head of internal relations at the time.
So I meet with J.J. and Vince
and I'm just sitting there.
And of course you're trying to, it's a great opportunity.
You know, so you're trying to.
- Right, you gotta keep that mindset.
- Yeah exactly, so I'm sitting there, meanwhile
inside I feel literally like I'm just shrinking.
- Yeah.
- (laughing) I was like man.
And Bruce Prichard told me that it was actually
Bobby Heenan had always wanted to have a wrestling dentist.
And that's where Vince got the idea from.
And I was the lucky,
lucky person to get it, yeah. - Lucky you,
to come down the pike, right.
I was like, yeah I wish, now I'd be like felt bad,
like come back, like man, we had a great match in Tennessee.
This guy is gonna be huge, you know.
(laughing)
Yeah, he's going to be our dentist.
(laughing) Oh no.
- Remember what you promised me Isaac.
Don't worry, don't be scared.
Just burst those teeth out.
Use that big right fist of yours.
I want to see his teeth rolling around on that ring.
Go on, do it for me Isaac.
- It was rough.
I remember you having to talk with me
and we had a match on TV
and it was just, it was awful.
It was terrible.
- I've had a lot of those. - My fault.
- I've had a lot of those.
- Well no, this one was my fault straight up.
I wasn't aggressive.
I didn't want to be there.
And you told me dude, you know, Vince likes you.
I like you, but you're gonna have to be more aggressive.
You have to be more assertive.
You know, if you want to survive
if you want to thrive in this business.
- Look at that.
(crowd cheers)
- And Yankem has no idea how to deal
with The Undertaker, oh no.
- That's actually one of those,
one of those things that for me flipped the switch.
And if you hadn't had that conversation with me
you know, I would have just packed my bags and went home.
- That was all that I was kind of trying to relate
to you is like, you know what?
You got to look past what you've seen on TV.
'Cause you're here now.
And you're here for a reason and you gotta be a killer.
You gotta be, you know, and you, and you got it.
- Couple of years later, I got a phone call
that you needed an opponent
and they were going to put me under a mask.
And now what I gathered from this,
and I'd love to hear your thoughts
on how this all came about.
But they were going to put me under a mask, call me Inferno.
It was like, you know, Bruce and I talked about
the Inferno thing and he was like,
no, that sounds like you know so.
Bruce and I helped with the name Kane.
You know, with the whole Cain and Abel.
- Right.
- You know, you being Kane initially.
And of course, Bruce's son being Kane later.
How did all that come about?
'Cause I've never even asked you how that happened.
- Yeah, so I want to say it was Bruce
that initially came up and said, what if, you know,
what if Kane, I mean, as soon as I heard Kane
and brother lights started going off in my head.
Like, this is, yes, this is, this could be great
because I knew you, you know, it was just like, Oh my gosh.
You know, and I saw it all.
I didn't, I didn't, you know, I didn't see us
in our characters, but like I could see it.
Like, man, this is great
because I knew how well you matched up against me.
And, and you know, we did things really similarly
in a lot of different instances.
And, and then, like I say, Kane, and I was like,
wow I was Cain the undertaker.
Because when I first came out,
they called me Cain the Undertaker.
- Cain the Undertaker.
- You know, it was like
did he call himself Cain the Undertaker
in memory of his brother
that he thought was dead.
I wish I could take credit for it.
But once I heard it, then it was just like,
my mind started going and it was like,
okay we can do this, we can do this,
we can do that.
And yeah, I was, I was super excited
that I knew was like, I knew it was gold.
I just knew it was.
(man illustrating)
- There you go, there, there you go.
(clapping)
- I was told that initially it was
like going to be a one-off.
They needed an opponent for you for a pay-per-view.
- Yeah. - And then.
- I think, I don't remember
who they were trying to get me ready for
but I just needed an opponent
you know, that was huge
and I could overcome something and get me ready.
And then it turned into a...
- Yeah but everybody liked the idea.
It's like well, man, we need you.
- Turned into a 23 year program.
(laughing)
- It was, it was.
- I'll kill you right now, you tell them the truth.
- I've told them the truth.
- Tell them the truth.
- It's the truth.
Kane told me, Kane told me.
- What?
- Kane told me.
He's alive.
Kane is alive Undertaker.
Your brother Kane is coming.
You undertaker are gonna burn in hell.
Undertaker I promise you, you'll burn in hell.
- He's alive.
- Oh, so good.
He's alive.
(laughs)
I can't hit it,
I can't hit the notes well
but, but, but it was just like,
what, people were like what is he talking about, he's alive?
- Undertaker you burnt the funeral home to the ground.
You killed your family Undertaker.
- I mean, as far fetched and over the top, it was,
it really wasn't, you know.
People can like, oh man, he set his little brother on fire
and his little brother took the rap and then he got burned.
I mean, it was just like,
well no wonder he's messed up, you know?
(laughs)
- And I have never seen an apparatus ever quite
like this in the history of the WWF.
I'm told the structure is over one ton in total weight
and has been reinforced in every possible place.
(eerie dramatic music)
- When you look at the Hell in the Cell,
the actual structure of the match,
that was for Kane, right?
- Yeah, it was for you to tear that door off.
- You know, no one can get in or out
and then they got the dude that was able to get in.
- Oh my God, wait a minute, it's Paul Bearer.
It's Paul Bearer and that, that's gotta be,
that's gotta be Kane.
That's gotta be Kane.
(suspenseful music)
- And I'll never forget to date.
I just walking out and it was, it was, man.
I'm actually getting goosebumps
because it was like the music hit
and the lights went dark, you know?
And then bam, and then the whole place for second,
there's a silence.
(tense ominous music)
- Oh my God. - Oh my God, he just ripped
the door off it's hinges.
- Then you've got Vince screaming on the headset,
of course for the people home
and people in the arena are like,
they're doing the same thing.
It's like, that's the dude they've been talking about.
- Look at the size of this human being
or is that a human thing?
- One of the most iconic stare downs ever, right?
- Kane, that's gotta be Kane.
The undertaker looking at him
looking to the eyes of that giant,
who stands in front of him.
Is that his younger brother?
- And I use that example for storytelling.
I was trying to be Undertaker
but here I am face-to-face with someone
that I thought it's been dead
and gone and, and someone's looking eyeball to eyeball,
if not taller than me.
And I'm trying not to show the, you know,
as I'm showing it, you know, it was so cool.
- What's this?
(fire blasts)
Oh my!
- I still, I can remember the rumble.
I, you know, it was just like, oh, this is gonna get good.
(crowd cheering)
- The Undertaker. - Tombstone.
- The Undertaker. - Of tombstone.
- Set up for the tombstone.
Driven down to the canvas.
(eerie suspenseful music)
- This is shocking.
- So then I get to run through everybody.
I often say 1997 was the best year of my career
'cause I just destroyed everything in my path.
(rumbles)
- We are gonna walk through the World Wrestling Federation.
(suspenseful music)
Take each wrestler one by one
and destroy them until we reach you.
(dramatic upbeat music)
- I will never fight my own flesh and blood.
I will never fight Kane.
(crowd cheering)
- Do you remember the deal that night was
I was supposed to slap you upside the head.
(dramatic music)
Okay, I was just gonna go out,
Paul Bearer does his thing and then I slap the Undertaker.
And I'm like, man, there ain't no way I'm going out there.
Slap the undertaker, okay.
Do you remember that I asked you in the locker room.
I was like, man, I need you to slap me.
'Cause I can't go out there and slap you.
(laughs)
And then, so I ask you to slap me.
You're like, you know, why?
And I'm finally, I'm like dude,
I can't, you know, I got too much respect.
When we go out there, you know.
So you have to slap me.
You hit me so hard.
(laughs)
I was just like there was no more, you know,
I'm reluctant to slap The Undertaker.
I was like, I can't wait to get that.
- I'm getting mine back.
That no good son of a bitch.
He just knocked the crap out of me.
Ah that's funny.
(crowd cheering)
- What a beautiful family portrait this is.
He suffered for 20 years and it's all your fault.
(slaps)
- Oh man!
How much more of this will The Undertaker take?
(crowd cheering)
- Maybe not much more.
(crowd cheering)
The two brothers looking eye to eye.
What must The Undertaker be thinking right now?
- Like looking into his own soul.
- At the Rumble, San Jose, I think.
- Yeah.
(flames booming)
- There he is, there he is.
Kane is assaulting his brother.
We thought he'd taken nothing.
Paul Bearer is coming down here with a smile on his face.
A choke slam into the casket.
And the lid is shut.
The Undertaker is in that casket.
It has been locked.
He's got, that's an ax.
- What is he doing?
- Obviously he's destroying the casket
but The Undertaker is in that casket.
- What is that is that gasoline?
- Yeah, 'cause they still talk about the fact
that fire marshal wasn't really happy
'cause the fire, the casket was lot.
The fire, the flames were much higher
than had been shown in (laughs).
- In rehearsal.
The fires got a little, yeah.
They were a little more intense.
(dramatic suspenseful music)
- The casket's on fire.
The casket's on fire.
(dramatic bass music)
- You're off TV and we're still destroying everything
and talking about you, then we got to the match in Boston.
(gentle somber music)
That was our first match in WWE right?
- Yeah. - Since I've been Kane.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- And that, I remember Paul Bearer put his
hand on my chest and my heart was just like (inaudible).
(laughs)
And he's like, "Are you okay?"
I'm like, yeah, this is awesome.
- There he is, the prince of darkness.
(eerie suspenseful music)
- I mean, that was exciting.
'Cause I came back with a real Lord of darkness look
and the druids with the torches.
- It was awesome.
And to be standing there watching it.
I mean it wasn't Mark, it was The Undertaker.
- Yeah.
(laughing)
- What a hellacious match up this is going to be.
- It was pretty exciting.
I mean that was, that was a huge build.
And you know, you getting ready to pay it off.
(dramatic upbeat music)
- I've never seen anybody manhandle
The Undertaker like that.
For 28 years, Kane has dreamed of this moment.
The Undertaker is being destroyed by his own brother.
(dramatic upbeat music)
- That character was so strong.
And a lot of people who couldn't grasp this thought
like you could elevate your career and get beat.
(dramatic upbeat music)
- The Undertaker with tombstone.
Kane has been drilled.
This will be all.
(banging)
Oh God, nobody has ever done that.
- When you beat me at WrestleMania XIV,
it took three tombstones.
(crowd cheering)
- Can he do it twice?
Yeah, okay.
- Hell this is gotta be it.
- Undertaker is trying to kill his own brother.
- This will be all.
- Kane kicked out.
- Never, ever happened before.
So it made me an even bigger character
that I had before.
I lost the match but people are like, oh my gosh.
He kicked out of,
he kicked out of two, yeah. - Yeah, 'cause at that point
nobody had ever, nobody had ever
kicked out of the tombstone.
- Yeah.
- This would be the third tombstone.
- Yes, he got it.
- And will this be enough?
My God, what will it take if it's not?
Yes, The Undertaker has won this match.
- And it's interesting how the psychology of the business
really, if it's done correctly, everybody benefits.
- We have witnessed a war ladies and gentlemen.
A war that is far, far from over.
- And I tell people this all the time.
I think our story is probably the
greatest story ever told in, in WWE
'cause it, it it never stopped.
It never stopped evolving.
(lively upbeat music)
- We did cool vignettes
and one of the best, my favorites was the one
at Nassau Coliseum where we dug up,
Paul and I had dug up mom and dad.
- (chuckle) Yes.
- He didn't get to attend their funeral.
So I decided that Kane and myself would go out
and dig up his poor old momma and daddy
and bring them right here.
- And Paul Bearer singing digging up bones
is pushing the coffin, pushing the coffin out to the stage,
which then I choke slammed you into (laughing).
- You choked slammed me into my own mom's remains.
- Yeah, it sounded sounded,
it's like so ridiculous conceptually.
- Yes.
- But it's the greatest stuff ever.
- Burn, burn, burn, burn.
Yes!
(slamming)
(laughing)
Rest in peace with your dead momma.
- Yeah, and there I am left inside
my mom's casket, right? - Parents remains (laughing).
- Oh, so good.
- Somebody get some fire people
or something out here, put that fire out of the casket.
- In his, in his mother's casket.
(gentle music)
- Throwing lightning bolts and to my knowledge, anyway,
it's the first time that WWE got
into kind of those sort of special effects.
I'm throwing fire.
- I don't know what you gonna do but come on.
(lightning striking)
- I mean enough is enough.
- Really taking the, the wrestling part of it
and putting a lot of drama and a lot of theater into it.
- Absolutely.
- It's mythology.
- The only thing that you can do now is rest in peace.
(dramatic foreboding music)
- Right, you have these two characters
and they were almost in their own universe,
away from everybody else in WWE, this crossover deal
that they had this backstory
and they were larger than life
and they had supernatural powers.
- Yeah.
(bell rings)
- Ladies and gentlemen, it is now time
for the first ever inferno match.
- I actually thought the inferno match was one
of the best matches we had.
- Absolutely.
When they pitched it, I was like.
- I thought it was great because I was just you know,
anything that they would have told me,
I was like, oh, I would work with The Undertaker again.
- Well, no, obviously I never had a problem wanting
to work with you
but it was just like, the ropes are going to be on fire.
- Well see, you've been there for like 10 years.
I'm still brand new.
So I'm like, oh yeah, the ropes are going
to be a fire, that's awesome.
- Look at this, look at this.
Oh my gosh.
- This is amazing.
- Do you remember how hot it was in there.
And that's, that's one thing I always kinda caught me
off guard is like, when they would do the pyro burst
how much air it sucked up, you know?
- Yeah.
- The ring is surrounded by fire.
This is hell on earth.
- And it was like, you know, both of us kind of wore a lot
of stuff in the ring anyway.
- Yeah, and the long hair.
- The long hair.
And then we had the stuff on us
and all that other.
I was just like when that fire burst would go off
(dramatic suspenseful music)
(gasping)
(dramatic suspenseful music)
- The night before, we were supposed to rehearse it.
And Paul and I had to make a show.
Something like Fayetteville or something.
Greensboro is where the
- Pay-per-view was. - Yeah.
So we went into that thing cold.
We didn't have time to rehearse it or anything.
I don't even know.
Did we even get in the ring? - Mm-mm.
- They lit it up beforehand?
- I don't think they did, no.
It's probably best, you know?
- Yeah, (laughing) you want us to go there.
- Wait a minute.
We're going to do what?
(laughing)
And the ropes are going to do what?
- Kane's on fire.
- Yeah, y'all got to be crazy.
You got the wrong guys for that one.
- Kane stuck in the fire
(crowd cheering)
The Undertaker has done it.
The Undertaker has won the first ever inferno match.
- What was really cool was for me,
was even though my program
with you was essentially finished at that point,
we still had a lot of crossover
and they still kept me in the mix.
(upbeat music)
And we come to King of the Ring, 1998
where I always get hot at Mick about this
because I won my first world championship that night.
No one remembers it because went off the cage.
(crowd shouting)
- Oh my God.
- As God is my witness, he is broken in half.
- When he went through to cell,
that was generally scary.
(crowd shouting)
- That's it, he's dead.
- It wasn't supposed to happen like that
and honestly I thought it was going to
be a lot more catastrophic than it was.
- I'm backstage watching it.
And when he went through the cage,
of course I was horrified just like everybody else.
- Right.
- And then they check on him and he's okay and everything.
And then Vince looks at me and Vince says,
'cause you guys are coming back out
at the end of the match, right?
- Right, yeah.
- That's the finish.
Vince looks at me and says, if he can't go back out there,
you gonna have to figure out what to do.
And I'm like, me, I'm fighting,
I'm going out there with Austin.
And if I lose the match, I get to set myself on fire.
(laughs)
There's a little bit of pressure on me.
I'm like we got all these writers,
why are you looking at me?
- Why are you looking at me?
- But we did, we're able to, Mick was able
to come back out and finish the match.
You hit Austin with the chair,
which allowed me to become world champion.
- I give you the World Wrestling Federation champion.
I give you Kane.
(crowd cheering)
- And the next night in Cleveland, Austin beat me
which actually is, I always tell people I was even
cooler to be a world champion
because it felt like that was another launch pad
for the, for the business to take off.
- Kane misses with his foot.
(crowd cheering)
Stone Cold hooks the leg.
- Yes Steve Austin, Austin (bell rings)
- But then you come out to run Austin off.
- Look, look, look at this.
Undertaker is in the ring.
And then that was kind of the first time
that people saw Brothers of Destruction.
First time we were in the ring together.
- What an auspicious occasion.
- I can't believe it J.R., Kane and The Undertaker.
- That set the imaginations off like, oh ....
- Yeah.
- Good God almighty, a spike tombstone.
- These two get together.
Yeah, I'd already in my head,
I'd already, I'd already seen it.
I knew it eventually it was gonna have to happen.
There's only so long that you can keep these two guys.
- There's no doubt that Undertaker and Kane combined
make the most destructive force
in the history of the World Wrestling Federation.
- We had a good run.
We did a lot of good things.
And my favorite iteration though
was when you were still Kane, Kane
and I turned into the American Badass.
- How did the American Badass thing come about?
- Truth be told with that is,
is like I, so we're moving into that attitude era, right?
And, and two as great as that character
and everything that comes with it is, you're handcuffed.
You're handcuffed a little bit
to what you can do and what you can't do.
Our product is evolving now
and, and the storylines are changing
you know, and it was just a matter of like, I don't know
that this character is going to be able to sustain
this part of the business.
(upbeat rock music)
- Here comes the real American Badass, The Undertaker.
- I needed to change.
I needed to do something and I'm not sure
that the character or I would have survived
if I hadn't gone the American badass.
- Really?
- I probably could have survived it
but it was, it was nice to have
that little bit of fresh air.
- This place has just gone crazy
with American Badass, The Undertaker.
- Well, here we are, middle of Death Valley
and the current fleet of Undertaker motorcycles.
(motorcycle engine rumbling)
This is really a special part of my career.
Being able to do this now.
You know, it gives them an opportunity
to see a little bit more of, you know,
what I am away from wrestling.
(motorcycle engine rumbling)
And to be able to ride a motorcycle into an arena.
I mean, it's just one of the biggest rushes for me.
- And from Houston Texas, weighing in at 330 pounds,
The Undertaker.
- We had some fun matches too.
Do you remember the one, Kai En Tai.
That was entertaining. (laughing)
And that was, that was, that just happened, right?
I mean, it wasn't planned.
- Oh, I missed, I missed the last round.
- That was, that was one of the funniest,
unplanned things ever.
'Cause those guys were so light
and we were used to working with such big guys, right?
So it was like, we went from, we're going
for the double finishes.
We're going to double last ride, Kai En Tai, right.
And then you take your guy
and you flip him over your head.
- I never knew why you put your,
you would grab their tights. - Yeah.
- I didn't know that.
So I flipped him up and when I lifted him.
- He was gone.
(laughing)
It was gone.
So being the big brother that I am,
I gave the last ride.
- I think big brother just said to Kane,
lemme show you how it's done.
- Last ride Nataka.
- I grabbed him, he was back here
and some how I ended up grabbing him.
It was awful, it was terrible.
- It was awful, right.
And then it was like,
and then it was so good, but it was
'cause it was like big brother was trying to show
little brother how to do this, right.
- And we're living all that too.
- So I had lived right or left to be like no, no, no.
- And now Kane gotta prove to big brother
that he could do the last ride to Funaki.
And Undertaker nods his approval.
- Goodbye.
- Here are your winners, Kane and The Undertaker.
- I wish that we could have took it a little further
with the Brothers of Destruction
but their might, might not have been roster left.
(laughs)
- No, it's true.
- These brothers United and by God when they're together,
hell hath no fury like these two.
- You have two massive guys
with two massive supernatural gimmicks.
Somebody would be like,
who are you gotta book these guys with?
You know, or you gonna get Zeus,
- Right exactly.
- And, you know, and Hercules.
I mean, that was kind of our downfall.
Like you just couldn't book anybody with us.
I mean, we were too over powering.
- Yeah.
- Is there anyone that can stand up
to the Brothers of Destruction?
- Not in this galaxy.
- And everything moves so fast too, you know.
For better, for worse, SmackDown, a show by that time.
So you needed twice the content
and I was like you, there were points in my career.
You were talking earlier about when you switched
to the American badass
and that really saved your career.
I always poo-pooed the idea of artists
when they get burnt out on stuff,
you know how do you even do that?
I got there a couple of times.
I was just like, this is boring.
I'm not having any fun.
Don't get me wrong.
Great job, I'm very blessed to be in that position.
- What'd you think about being involved in the commercial?
- Fun, excellent pyro.
- So you know, I took the mask all the way off
and in 2003 and a lot of folks thought, well,
that wasn't a great idea.
The only people that really behind it were me Vince.
How did you feel about that?
- No, I, I was just kind of curious, like my only,
my only reservation about it was okay.
He wears the mask because he's burned.
- Right. - You know?
And that was my only concern about it.
I mean, I understood, I understood the philosophy
behind it, you know.
And I mean, you have to do, to keep
and keep that longevity and to keep the character fresh
you have to do drastic things like that.
(crowd cheering)
- Come on, do it Kane, do it.
- King I don't know we wanna see this.
- Yeah, yeah, I do wanna see it.
- We've never, we've always speculated.
- Here it comes.
(crowd shouting)
What the hell is this?
- His hair came off.
- Oh my God. - Oh my God.
Wait no, no.
Van Damme came to help Kane.
What the hell?
(fire blasts)
- What the hell is that?
Get a shot of that face.
- Is that a human.
- When I first took the mask off, Kane transformed almost
from a physical monster, into a psychological monster.
People talking about why isn't he scarred?
And my idea behind that was the scars were on the inside.
- Right
- That he thought he was deformed.
That's why he had to put on the mask.
And that made Kane even more maniacal
because there's really nothing,
nothing physically wrong with him.
But he thought that there was.
- Demented, evil, sinister.
Kane is no doubt a living breathing monster.
- A burning dumpster didn't stop me.
Crashing me into a tractor trailer didn't stop me.
Don't you get it?
There is nothing that can stop me.
- For me, it just really,
I don't even wanna say freshen up the character.
It became a new character.
Also for me personally, as a performer, it really was like
oh gosh, I feel like I'm just starting my career all over.
Tonight, I will once again feast on fear and suffering.
- Yeah because you're allowed to do things
that you weren't allowed to do before.
It was just so many layers to, to the
to those two characters and they intertwined so well.
That's one of the things I'm really most proud of.
Just the story alone.
Not the body of work, but just the story.
- It's Kane, it's The Undertaker's brother, Kane.
What the hell is he doing here?
- He dumped a front end loader full of dirt on me.
- Yeah, yeah, it was great.
(gentle eerie music)
- The Undertaker has been buried alive.
I still hold a little bit of grudge 'cause of that.
(gentle suspenseful music)
- It's WrestleMania XX at Madison Square Garden.
- Madison Square Garden.
- The return of the dead man
and Kane is obviously beside himself.
The Undertaker has tombstone pile driven
his demented brother Kane all the way
to the outskirts of hell.
- In 2010, I'm still mask less
and we had another run.
- Kane has defeated his brother.
- I am an absolute shock.
- I beat you three stage pay-per-views.
- You kicked the crap out of me man.
- What we see transpire,
Kane has completely dominated his brother The Undertaker.
- The saga is over.
My brother is never coming back.
- I remember along the way
that you were saying that's never happened.
And you know, the real reason was to try
to elevate Kane again.
And that's something you did throughout your career.
You know, even though you didn't lose a whole lot
when you did in the early days,
- Right.
- It was like, oh my Gosh.
(banging)
(crowd cheering)
Like when Austin beat you
that was like, to me, that was like, everybody's like
Austin's the man, he beat Undertaker.
- Yeah, yeah.
- The Undertaker just got beat by the stunner.
(crowd cheering)
- That takes a hell of a lot of class.
(crowd cheering)
- It was the opposite of being selfish.
You'd get so built up
that when someone finally beat The Undertaker,
And they were superstar, megastar.
I have to ask you this,
but we get ahead to WrestleMania with you and Brock.
And my reaction when I was watching that,
I thought the finish got messed up.
- Going for a triple.
A third F5 to The Undertaker.
Brock Lesnar into the cover, hooks the leg,
the streak is over.
- I'm speechless.
- So our 75,000 people here.
- I was like, they're gonna restart the match or something.
Something got screwed up.
And they didn't.
I walked out of the room.
I was so, I was literally so mad about that.
- (laughs) Yeah.
- You know, because it's just, you know, and I know
that the streak wasn't something
that anyone had ever planned
and it just suddenly kind of organically evolved,
but it'd become part of WrestleMania Law at that point.
You know, and people came to,
they came to see The Undertaker
and they came to see all, all the stuff.
And then at the end they also came
to see 20 something and O
and it just didn't have the same feel
when it was,
- 21 and one. - 21 and one.
What were your thoughts on that?
- I got to the arena that day and I was going over.
- Okay, right. - Right.
I mean, we had gone back and forth
and when I had showed up, I was going over
and through the course of the day
Vince come to me and said he had changed his mind.
Man, I was like, okay, all right.
I was like, well I said, I don't,
I don't think Brock needs it,
but you know at the end of the day
it's your show and it's your call.
And if you're sure about it,
then that's what we'll do.
And that's part of the business.
Obviously that's what we do.
(fire blasts)
I thought there would be somebody like Roman.
Roman would have been, I think Roman would have been fine.
- Yeah. I just feel that it would've made Roman, you know
it would've put even more luster on that.
- Yeah. You know, I mean, you know,
unfortunately with my thing with Roman,
you know, I was just, I shouldn't have been
in the ring that year.
- Yeah, well.
- I was just too beat up.
My hip was too far.
I couldn't get anything.
I couldn't train.
I looked bloated Elvis.
And it was bad.
And it, that, that I genuinely felt bad for
because you know, I wanted to give Roman that match.
(fireworks blaring)
- Had much the same experience.
One of my dream matches was always
Brothers of Destruction versus DX.
(laughs)
So we finally get the match.
- Tonight marks the first time ever that D-Generation X
and the Brothers of Destruction will meet
in a tag team match.
- You're thinking, okay, I don't care how old we are.
You know, what kind of shape we are.
There's a little bit of talent within those four guys.
- With a little bit of experience.
Everybody's just so you know, in tune
and knows how to work.
I was like, this is going to be cake.
This will be great.
And it will be easy.
And Lord, it was everything but.
(crowd shouting)
- Everything that could go wrong did.
Trip tears his peck.
- Early, that was in the first, what five minutes?
- Oh my God, up over the top, Hunter hit hard,
Hunter hit hard.
- Yeah I, I was in there with him, you know,
and I knew something was going on
and I didn't, I had no idea he had a torn peck,
but I'm trying, I was like, dude, just you know,
don't do this.
He's like, I'm fine, I'm fine.
And some of my folks are watching it back home
and someone says, what if his mask comes off?
He's like ah, that never happens.
Sure enough, - Sure enough,
the mask comes off.
(laughing)
- Shawn Michaels, hit Kane so hard
that Kane's mask came off his face.
That meant it had never, ever happened before.
- Ever happened, right.
That was, that was just a, that was a sign
that there was not supposed to happen.
It just didn't turn out like any of us would have wanted it.
- It is absolutely incredible.
The passion, the emotion that was tonight.
- You know, 15 years earlier.
- Oh man, - Oh my gosh.
- It would have been awesome. - It would've been great.
It's just been a hell of a ride.
My goodness, who knows where our careers would have been
if they haven't intersected.
I challenge anybody to come up with a better story
that has lasted that long
and just to be able to be relevant.
Now that means a lot to me.
Obviously you're a vital part of that
and our history together
you know, against each other, with each other.
- You can't kill what won't die.
- You do have people that are very instrumental
in your career, but also in your life.
There are these inflection points.
If someone comes along
and you can look back on your life
and say, if that hadn't happened,
all the good things that happened to me
wouldn't have taken place.
And you're batch, part of that feeling.
- The feelings are mutual man.
Our friendship outside of the ring,
it's really special to know
that we were so instrumental in each other's paths,
our career paths which is really cool.
Who's to say that it's even over.
- Brother, I appreciate it, man.
- Hey.
- Thanks buddy. - Big fella.
We just killed the mics they thought was hard to kill.
(laughing)
Ah, dang it.
- Sorry about that, did I actually knock it down.
- All right? - We'll fix it in post?
(gentle upbeat music)