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in terms of the realm
of popular culture...

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rather than
in the realm of journalism.

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I think this is a bad time,
not just for the press...

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but it's a bad time
for the truth.

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<i>- ♪ I just want to start ♪</i>
<i>- ♪ I just want to start ♪</i>

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<i>- ♪ A flame in your heart ♪</i>
<i>- ♪ A flame in your heart ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I don't want to set</i>
<i>The world on fire ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I just want to start ♪</i>

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<i>♪ A flame in your heart ♪</i>

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<i>♪ In my heart,</i>
<i>I have but one desire ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And that one is you</i>
<i>No other will do ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Ba, da, da ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I've lost all ambition ♪</i>

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<i>♪ For worldly acclaim ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I just want to be</i>
<i>The one you love ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And with your admission</i>
<i>That you'd feel the same ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I'll have reached the goal</i>
<i>I'm dreaming of, believe me ♪</i>

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<i>- ♪ In my heart ♪</i>
<i>- ♪ In my heart ♪</i>

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<i>- ♪ I have but one desire ♪</i>
<i>- ♪ I have but one desire ♪</i>

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<i>- ♪ That one is you ♪</i>
<i>- ♪ That one is you ♪</i>

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<i>- ♪ No other will do ♪</i>
<i>- ♪ No other will do ♪</i>

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Lantana, Florida,
population 7,126,

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according to the last census,

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an undistinguished
South Florida town on U.S. One

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about ten miles south
of Palm Beach, Florida,

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an unlikely place, you'd think,
to be the home

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of one
of America's most successful

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publishing enterprises,

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and yet Lantana, Florida,

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is the home
of the <i>National Enquirer.</i>

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<i>Generoso Pope Jr.,</i>
<i>a transplanted New Yorker,</i>

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<i>Godfather of this magazine,</i>
<i>journal, newspaper.</i>

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Calder: <i>Gene Pope</i>
<i>was a force of nature.</i>

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Virga: <i>He knew what he wanted</i>
<i>to do, and it was that paper,</i>

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<i>and he wanted to sell</i>
<i>the most papers</i>

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<i>of anybody in the world.</i>

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Regan: <i>Generoso Pope</i>
<i>very cleverly identified</i>

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<i>a way to communicate</i>
<i>with mass-market America.</i>

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<i>How he communicated it</i>
<i>was studied by others,</i>

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<i>adopted by others,</i>

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<i>which set the stage</i>
<i>for what was to come.</i>

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Wallace: And you know
as well as I do

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that there are allegations

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that Mafia money
has been behind the <i>Enquirer</i>

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- since the beginning.
- Right. I've heard.

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I've read that.

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Calder: <i>Generoso Pope Jr.</i>
<i>was the son of Generoso Pope.</i>

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Gene Pope was born
into privilege.

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His father owned <i>Il Progresso,</i>

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<i>an Italian-language paper</i>
<i>in New York.</i>

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<i>Because of that,</i>

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<i>he was a huge political figure</i>
<i>in America.</i>

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<i>Gene was a child prodigy</i>
<i>in many ways.</i>

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<i>I mean, at 16, he was helping</i>
<i>to run</i><i>Il Progresso.</i>

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<i>His father became</i>

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<i>one of the most powerful guys</i>
<i>in New York.</i>

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<i>He pretty much controlled</i>
<i>the Italian vote.</i>

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<i>Along the way, he became</i>
<i>a made guy in the Mafia.</i>

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<i>When his father died,</i>
<i>Gene was the heir apparent</i>

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<i>to taking over the newspaper</i>
<i>his father owned.</i>

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Pope III: Il Progresso
<i>was not the kind of newspaper</i>

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<i>he wanted to do.</i>

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He wanted to form a newspaper
in his own image

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just like his father
had done it.

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Calder: <i>He wanted to buy</i>
<i>the</i><i>New York Enquirer,</i>

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<i>which was a crappy little pape,</i>
<i>mainly racing and sports,</i>

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<i>but he needed 75,000 to buy it.</i>

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<i>Believe it or not,</i>
<i>Gene Pope's real Godfather</i>

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<i>was the Godfather,</i>
<i>Frank Costello,</i>

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<i>who was a big guy</i>
<i>in the mob obviously.</i>

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Pope III:
<i>That's where he got the money,</i>

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and it was
an interest-free loan. Why?

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Because he was like family.

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It's a very Italian thing.

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And that was the start
of the <i>Enquirer.</i>

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Sternig: <i>He immediately put</i>
<i>the word National on it.</i>

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He envisioned publishing

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mounds and mounds and mounds
of <i>National Enquirers.</i>

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He was looking for something
to sell more copies.

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<i>♪ You're fine ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I want you to be mine, oh ♪</i>

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Calder: <i>One day, he was driving</i>
<i>on one of the New York highways,</i>

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<i>and there was an accident ahea,</i>
<i>and everybody slowed down.</i>

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<i>They're all rubbernecking,</i>

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<i>and they're looking at the side</i>
<i>of the road.</i>

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Pope III: <i>And he looked</i>
<i>at the crowd, and he saw</i>

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<i>all these people staring</i>
<i>at a really gory scene.</i>

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<i>♪ I think you're swell ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Come close ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Hold... ♪</i>

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Calder: <i>He went, "My God,</i>
<i>nobody's doing pictures</i>

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<i>of that."</i>

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He suddenly realized,

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"This is what I have to do.
I got to make a gore rag."

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<i>So what he did is that he went</i>
<i>to the police department.</i>

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<i>He basically got first dibs</i>

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<i>on the photography</i>
<i>of these horrible accidents,</i>

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and that's how it started.

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I got to tell you,
when I first saw it,

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sometimes it was hard
to pick up.

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<i>♪ Come close ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Hold me tight ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Send me ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Tonight and every night ♪</i>

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<i>♪ You're slick ♪</i>

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But circulation
went up dramatically.

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It took off, but it was
a little uncomfortable.

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He realized that gore
was only gonna take him so far.

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(stammers) Circulation peaked
at one million,

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but he dreamed actually
of 20 million,

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which, of course, was insane.

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(girl giggles)

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Calder: <i>By the mid-'60s,</i>

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<i>many, many people were moving</i>
<i>to the suburbs,</i>

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<i>so they weren't stopping</i>
<i>at newsstands,</i>

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and the idea was,

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"We've got to get it in front
of more people."

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Well, where are the people?

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narrator: <i>There is madness</i>
<i>in the marketplace.</i>

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<i>Just listen to this.</i>

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- (cash register dings)
- We zeroed in on supermarkets

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<i>as the one area where I suppose</i>

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<i>some member of every family unt</i>
<i>in the United States</i>

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<i>comes once a week at least.</i>

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Calder: <i>He wanted to be racks</i>
<i>at the front end</i>

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<i>of every checkout counter</i>
<i>in the United States.</i>

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People told him, "Great idea,
but you can't do this.

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<i>A gore paper, how could</i>
<i>that get into supermarkets?"</i>

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<i>People would throw up</i>

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<i>just at a time when they were</i>
<i>about to buy milk, you know?</i>

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<i>It was totally impossible.</i>

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So we drastically

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in one fell swoop eliminated
all the gore.

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From the moment he started,

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he never stopped
playing with it,

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trying to change the format
to find the winning formula.

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Wallace:
<i>In came headlines like these.</i>

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Calder: <i>Celebrity news.</i>

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Regan: <i>Gossip items.</i>

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- Wright: <i>Dogs. Pets.</i>
- Virga: <i>Diets.</i>

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- Regan: <i>Medical-oddity stories.</i>
- Virga: <i>Psychic stories.</i>

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I happened to discover
that Jimmy Carter

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had once seen a UFO.

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Wright: <i>Gee-whiz stories.</i>

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We did one on making cars
out of lobsters.

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<i>We had some guy called up</i>

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wanting to know
where he could buy one.

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Calder: <i>Our headlines,</i>
<i>our pictures, our front page,</i>

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<i>and all of them</i>
<i>had to be a triggering mechanim</i>

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to get people's attention first,

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and if they liked
what they saw, they bought it.

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Regan: <i>Generoso Pope</i>
<i>really understood the psycholoy</i>

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of the average American person.

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He used to call the reader
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Missy Smith in Kansas City.

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Wright: She was the standard
by which every story

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in the <i>National Enquirer</i>
was judged.

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man: <i>The basic American</i>
<i>woman.</i>

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Regan: <i>She was somebody</i>
<i>who had family values,</i>

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<i>who loves stories,</i>
<i>loves celebrities</i>

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and wanted to know essentially
that celebrities suffered, too.

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Coz: <i>Mrs. Smith goes</i>
<i>to the beauty parlor,</i>

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<i>talks to her girlfriends.</i>

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<i>They're all chatting</i>
<i>about celebrities.</i>

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Dolly Parton is depressed,

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or Elizabeth Taylor
got fat again

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<i>and can't find love.</i>

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She would go, 'Ugh,"
and have to read all about it.

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We were Missy Smith
in Kansas City.

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I guess I'm a little nosy.

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We were Missy Smith in Yonkers.

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They can't print something
in there that's not true.

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We were Missy Smith everywhere.

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I just enjoy the headlines.

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She was our boss.
She could make or break us.

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(gunshots fired)

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Coz: <i>Missy Smith has had</i>
<i>a long week at work.</i>

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<i>She gets her</i><i>National Enquirer.</i>
<i>She goes home.</i>

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<i>She has a bath.</i>
<i>She has a glass of wine,</i>

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and she sits down
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I feel a great sadness...

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<i>that I will not be here</i>
<i>in this office</i>

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<i>working on your behalf</i>
<i>to achieve those hopes</i>

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in the next two
and a half years.

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Wright: <i>The</i><i>Enquirer</i>
<i>was a nice window</i>

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<i>to look through,</i>
<i>a pleasant place to go</i>

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<i>after the harsher news</i>
<i>in the real world.</i>

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(crowd clamoring)

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male reporter: <i>Guns, ammunition,</i>
<i>explosives</i>

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<i>and at least one pipe bomb.</i>

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- (explosion)
- (siren wailing)

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Brenna: <i>I don't think</i>
<i>Pope wanted the outside world</i>

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<i>to spill over into the</i><i>Enquirer.</i>

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Our philosophy,
I guess you'd call it,

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is basically that,
in all the other media,

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the people are getting
all the bad news today.

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They're getting swamped with it,
inundated with it,

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and I think
they've just about had it.

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I think they're searching
for something

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that's gonna tell them
there's a good side to life.

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Everything isn't bad.

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Haley: Pope was
a conservative man.

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Was he a Republican or Democrat?

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I never knew.
I could never tell.

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Uh, he was a Democrat.

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I never knew him to be
anything but that.

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Brenna: But he wasn't somebody

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who was interested
in getting elected

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or having a hand in Washington.

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Uh, that wasn't his bag.

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<i>Because he came</i>
<i>from a rich Italian family,</i>

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<i>which was Mafia-related.</i>

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The only connection to politics
they had

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was they owned the politicians.

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Calder: <i>We were into country</i>
<i>and flag.</i>

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<i>Most of our readers were proud</i>
<i>to be American.</i>

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Coz: We did not attack
the U.S. government

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because our readers believed
in the U.S. government.

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I mean, we weren't
the conscience of the world.

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<i>We were interested in stories</i>
<i>that would sell paper.</i>

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Auletta: The <i>National Enquirer</i>
was a place where,

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you know,
facts were not important.

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Uh, what was important
was eyeballs.

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Bernstein: The universe
that is described

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in edition after edition

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<i>of the National Enquirer</i><i>is a...</i>

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nonexistent universe
in terms of reality.

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It's always been fake-ish.

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In other words,
there was a nub of truth

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to most of the stories
that printed.

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We would sensationalize
that germ of truth

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to make it very palatable

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and very desirable
to the reader.

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We used to call that
exploding the nub.

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Things were exploded.

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You'd just take a story,

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and you make it
more interesting.

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You don't change the facts.
You just sensationalize it.

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That's what tabloids do.

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Wright: <i>Generoso Pope decided</i>
<i>that he wanted to move</i>

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<i>the</i><i>Enquirer</i><i>out of New York.</i>

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And in 1971,
we moved to Florida.

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He wanted to be on the ocean,

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<i>and once he was here,</i>
<i>he never left.</i>

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He had the wherewithal to go
anywhere in the world he wanted.

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<i>He preferred to sit in Lantana</i>
<i>and let the world come to him.</i>

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Brenna:
<i>Walking into the Enquirer offie</i>

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<i>at that time was through</i>
<i>a beautiful, tropical garden.</i>

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(telephone ringing)

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Brenna: <i>And you walk in</i>
<i>to this gigantic newsroom,</i>

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<i>which is buzzing...</i>

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- (telephone ringing)
- (typewriter keys clacking)

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<i>...editors who are bent over</i>
<i>their desks</i>

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<i>and calling all over the world.</i>

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Is this overseas
from Melbourne, Australia?

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Well, we have some questions
on that UFO story.

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Brenna: <i>Everybody's typing.</i>

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<i>Everybody's furiously</i>
<i>on the phone.</i>

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<i>It was a... like</i>
<i>a journalistic beehive.</i>

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(telephone ringing)

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Controlled chaos.
(laughing) It really was.

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Virga: <i>Rotary phones</i>
<i>and ashtrays.</i>

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Brenna: <i>Cigarettes</i>
<i>and cigars everywhere.</i>

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<i>God knows why we didn't all</i>
<i>have lung cancer,</i>

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but it was a place

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that got your adrenaline going.

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- (typewriter keys clacking)
- (telephone ringing)

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It was such a great vibe.
It was so exciting.

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It was so crazy,
and you just thought,

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"Maybe I want to be a part
of this."

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00:14:20,022 --> 00:14:22,004
(typewriter keys clacking)

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- (telephones ringing)
- (typewriter bell dings)

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(indistinct chattering)

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Wallace: <i>The city room</i>
<i>has a decidedly</i>

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<i>Fleet Street accent.</i>

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I have but a moment
to reach Henry Green.

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And why... why do...
why do you liken Hoover

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to a European dictator?

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Okay, John. This is story 207.

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Wallace:
<i>Pope likes London journalists</i>

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<i>schooled in scandal</i>
<i>and the various successes</i>

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<i>of the British penny press.</i>

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Sternig: <i>Oh, those papers had</i>
<i>the most saucy stories,</i>

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<i>and they didn't spare</i>
<i>any details at all.</i>

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<i>They went for the jugular,</i>

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and he said,
"I got to have me those guys.

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That's who I want on my paper."

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00:14:59,026 --> 00:15:02,008
British reporters
were a lot more aggressive,

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a lot more capable
of doing unorthodox things.

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Wallace: <i>Number one</i>
<i>under Gene Pope is Iain Calder.</i>

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Calder: By age 25,
I'd worked on three papers,

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including the biggest paper
in Scotland.

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<i>That's where I really learned</i>
<i>this craft.</i>

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Brenna: <i>Iain Calder had worked</i>
<i>on the Glasgow</i><i>Record</i>

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<i>and was used</i>
<i>to chasing fire engines</i>

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and doing a lot of, kind of,
scurrilous stuff.

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<i>People were slashing</i>
<i>rival reporters' tires,</i>

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<i>cutting people out</i>
<i>on the doorstep.</i>

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00:15:34,009 --> 00:15:36,008
Calder came
from that background.

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Every story you went out on,
you were under pressure

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to get something better
than the guy next to you.

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00:15:42,008 --> 00:15:44,003
Wright:
<i>It was cutthroat competition.</i>

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You had to have cunning,
charm when it was needed.

307
00:15:47,024 --> 00:15:50,021
<i>You had to talk people</i>
<i>into being in a paper</i>

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<i>they didn't want to be in.</i>
<i>We didn't take no for an answe.</i>

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00:15:54,018 --> 00:15:58,000
We're guys who were raised
on checkbook journalism,

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<i>underhand tactics,</i>
<i>but we were not scumbags.</i>

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<i>We were pretty good journalists.</i>

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And we, of course,
are checking to see

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whether you have any information
on the situation.

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man: <i>All the information</i>
<i>I have at this time</i>

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<i>- is the following.</i>
- Okay.

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We would run circles around
most American reporters.

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They just didn't have it.

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00:16:19,008 --> 00:16:22,005
Some of them did.
Some of them developed it

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but only under our tutelage.

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I was looking for, like,
U.K. type reporters,

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00:16:26,028 --> 00:16:28,018
and the only reason
I needed them

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00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:30,019
was I couldn't find
great reporters in America.

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00:16:30,021 --> 00:16:34,003
We were in an uphill battle
to try to get them

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00:16:34,005 --> 00:16:35,016
to come and work
for the <i>Enquirer.</i>

325
00:16:37,024 --> 00:16:42,023
The reputation of the <i>Enquirer</i>
was terrible.

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<i>I honestly thought,</i>

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00:16:44,011 --> 00:16:47,023
"Would it be easier
to tell people I was in prison

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00:16:47,025 --> 00:16:50,009
or a mental hospital
for a couple years?"

329
00:16:51,009 --> 00:16:54,004
When I first joined the paper,
it was kind of a joke, really.

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We thought they were
kind of tacky.

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Coz: <i>I went to Harvard</i>
<i>to become a writer,</i>

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and as my mother said, "No way.

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00:17:01,006 --> 00:17:04,005
You can't go from Harvard
to the <i>National Enquirer."</i>

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00:17:05,016 --> 00:17:08,018
George: The prospect of writing
for a national audience

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was pretty thrilling,

336
00:17:10,006 --> 00:17:13,008
I mean, even though it was
the <i>National Enquirer.</i>

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But the reality was different.

338
00:17:16,006 --> 00:17:19,004
These people are promising
to triple my salary

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and send me around the world.

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00:17:21,012 --> 00:17:22,027
I need to be...

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a little bit reckless.

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00:17:26,016 --> 00:17:27,028
Coz: <i>Generoso Pope</i>

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<i>owned the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>
<i>lock, stock, and barrel.</i>

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<i>He had a fortune,</i>
<i>so he didn't care</i>

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00:17:31,018 --> 00:17:34,004
what expenses racked up
chasing down stories.

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00:17:34,006 --> 00:17:36,004
If you could get his curiosity
going,

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00:17:36,006 --> 00:17:39,015
<i>then you're gonna be doing it</i>
<i>and using his money.</i>

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00:17:41,017 --> 00:17:44,019
Wright: <i>You didn't have to ask</i>
<i>to hire a plane or a boat</i>

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<i>or a house or anything else.</i>
<i>You just did it.</i>

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00:17:47,017 --> 00:17:50,006
George: <i>The owner would</i>
<i>hand them bags of money,</i>

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00:17:50,008 --> 00:17:52,029
<i>and they were</i>
<i>on a private jet to Paris.</i>

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00:17:53,017 --> 00:17:55,024
- Brenna: <i>Maui.</i>
- George: <i>Monaco.</i>

353
00:17:57,012 --> 00:17:58,016
Wright: <i>Puerto Vallarta.</i>

354
00:18:00,018 --> 00:18:02,002
Vilcabamba.

355
00:18:02,004 --> 00:18:04,027
<i>We're staying in a luxury hote,</i>
<i>got the penthouse.</i>

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00:18:05,028 --> 00:18:07,029
Haley: <i>What about a temple</i>
<i>of snakes in India?</i>

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00:18:08,001 --> 00:18:09,005
(snake hissing)

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00:18:09,007 --> 00:18:11,016
"Can you get out today
to Hong Kong?"

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00:18:16,018 --> 00:18:18,006
Balfour:
The world was our oyster.

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00:18:18,008 --> 00:18:21,002
That was the marvelous thing
about the <i>Enquirer.</i>

361
00:18:21,004 --> 00:18:22,025
Brenna: <i>The range of stuff</i>
<i>was terrific.</i>

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00:18:23,002 --> 00:18:26,005
<i>It was more than any newspaper</i>
<i>or magazine</i>

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<i>that I had worked for</i>
<i>ever offered.</i>

364
00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:31,027
Within the first two years,
I was making

365
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:34,010
as much as Ben Bradlee was
at <i>The Washington Post,</i>

366
00:18:34,023 --> 00:18:36,024
and I thought,
"Man, that guy's underpaid."

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00:18:37,028 --> 00:18:40,004
(telephone ringing)

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00:18:40,018 --> 00:18:42,001
One thing about the atmosphere

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00:18:42,003 --> 00:18:43,023
in the newsroom
at the <i>National Enquirer</i>

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<i>is you would have frivolity</i>

371
00:18:45,023 --> 00:18:47,023
<i>and that sense</i>
<i>of energy going on,</i>

372
00:18:47,025 --> 00:18:50,025
<i>but when Generoso Pope</i>
<i>walked through that newsroom,</i>

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<i>everyone picked up a phone</i>

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00:18:54,008 --> 00:18:56,008
<i>and started talking like</i>
<i>they were doing an interview.</i>

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00:18:56,015 --> 00:18:58,018
<i>There was a tension</i>
<i>whenever he entered the room.</i>

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00:18:59,010 --> 00:19:03,018
<i>It was best if you didn't engae</i>
<i>with him until he knew you.</i>

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00:19:03,020 --> 00:19:07,018
Couple of times he barked at me,
I nearly jumped out of my skin.

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00:19:07,020 --> 00:19:09,006
You suddenly realized

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00:19:09,008 --> 00:19:10,016
that you're dealing
with somebody

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00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:13,009
who's 100 percent ruthless.

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00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:15,010
Wright:
<i>He was a terrifying figure.</i>

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00:19:15,016 --> 00:19:18,013
<i>You didn't talk to Mr. Pope,</i>
<i>and he didn't talk to you.</i>

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00:19:19,003 --> 00:19:20,012
After I'd been there
about six months,

384
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I was walking down the corridor,

385
00:19:22,008 --> 00:19:24,023
and he was walking towards me.
He looked down at me and said,

386
00:19:24,025 --> 00:19:27,023
"Hi, David." I thought,
"Oh, Jesus. He knows my name.

387
00:19:27,025 --> 00:19:30,008
This is very bad." (laughs)

388
00:19:30,010 --> 00:19:32,024
We were instructed
not to look him in the eye.

389
00:19:32,026 --> 00:19:34,017
He never once looked me
in the eye

390
00:19:34,027 --> 00:19:36,025
the entire time
I worked for him.

391
00:19:37,007 --> 00:19:40,004
He would look at his desk
or look at the floor.

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00:19:42,020 --> 00:19:44,026
Calder: <i>Gene Pope was ambitious</i>
<i>and driven,</i>

393
00:19:45,004 --> 00:19:46,023
<i>and when he wanted something,</i>

394
00:19:46,025 --> 00:19:50,007
<i>he was like an express train</i>
<i>going 100 miles an hour,</i>

395
00:19:50,009 --> 00:19:52,001
and if people, that he hired,

396
00:19:52,011 --> 00:19:54,011
weren't taking him there,
they were gone.

397
00:19:55,001 --> 00:19:57,029
There was no job security
at the <i>National Enquirer.</i>

398
00:19:58,006 --> 00:20:01,014
Regan: <i>He would pit every editor</i>
<i>against each other,</i>

399
00:20:01,016 --> 00:20:03,029
<i>and we would vie</i>
<i>for the number-one spot.</i>

400
00:20:04,001 --> 00:20:06,015
It was brutal. It was brutal.

401
00:20:06,017 --> 00:20:08,008
If you were somebody
that got results

402
00:20:08,010 --> 00:20:10,008
and you got page ones
and big stories,

403
00:20:10,010 --> 00:20:11,019
well, you might be good
for a week.

404
00:20:11,021 --> 00:20:14,028
Everybody lived in terror
of Friday

405
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,026
because, on Friday,
it was usually a bloodbath.

406
00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:21,012
Virga: <i>At the end of the week,</i>
<i>we'd lock up the paper,</i>

407
00:20:21,023 --> 00:20:23,024
<i>and people</i>
<i>would all gravitate out</i>

408
00:20:23,026 --> 00:20:25,001
<i>to go have a drink.</i>

409
00:20:25,003 --> 00:20:27,005
Pope got tired
of everybody leaving,

410
00:20:27,012 --> 00:20:29,023
so he decided to bring in

411
00:20:30,003 --> 00:20:33,000
this huge catered event
every Friday night.

412
00:20:33,002 --> 00:20:35,018
(indistinct chattering)

413
00:20:35,028 --> 00:20:38,026
- Brenna: <i>Turkeys, full hams.</i>
- Shrimp.

414
00:20:38,028 --> 00:20:40,016
Virga:
<i>And a full ice-cream-sundae ba.</i>

415
00:20:40,024 --> 00:20:43,010
Brenna: <i>And all the booze</i>
<i>you could possibly drink.</i>

416
00:20:43,012 --> 00:20:45,024
Coz: <i>Beer, wine, everything.</i>

417
00:20:46,024 --> 00:20:49,021
Brenna: <i>Of course, all of us</i>
<i>would all get very drunk.</i>

418
00:20:50,007 --> 00:20:52,006
Virga: <i>Pope would sit</i>
<i>in the middle of the newsroom</i>

419
00:20:52,013 --> 00:20:53,023
<i>smoking his cigarettes.</i>

420
00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:57,007
But somebody would be fired
before that dinner was over.

421
00:20:58,022 --> 00:21:02,006
It was the Friday night massacre
and this was ruthless.

422
00:21:02,024 --> 00:21:05,018
Coz: <i>Security would just come</i>
<i>to a reporter's desk,</i>

423
00:21:06,002 --> 00:21:07,016
<i>escort them out of the building,</i>

424
00:21:07,018 --> 00:21:09,006
<i>and hand them a paycheck</i>
<i>on the way out.</i>

425
00:21:09,008 --> 00:21:11,014
You never knew who was going
to survive Friday.

426
00:21:11,024 --> 00:21:13,019
Brenna:
<i>Goodbye, Florida living.</i>

427
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:15,023
<i>Goodbye, big paychecks.</i>

428
00:21:15,025 --> 00:21:18,012
<i>Goodbye, amazing</i>
<i>expense accounts.</i>

429
00:21:18,014 --> 00:21:20,020
It all went out the window
in a flash.

430
00:21:20,022 --> 00:21:23,009
It was all about the story.

431
00:21:23,022 --> 00:21:26,002
Get the story
and don't come back

432
00:21:26,004 --> 00:21:27,013
until you have it.

433
00:21:27,022 --> 00:21:32,018
The <i>National Enquirer</i>
at its zenith was a spy network.

434
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,027
<i>You couldn't go into hospital</i>

435
00:21:34,029 --> 00:21:37,016
<i>without somebody</i>
<i>calling the</i><i>Enquirer,</i>

436
00:21:37,018 --> 00:21:39,014
because they were
all getting paid.

437
00:21:39,023 --> 00:21:42,009
Calder: <i>We might have stories</i>
<i>from your sister,</i>

438
00:21:42,015 --> 00:21:44,016
<i>your brother, your boyfriend.</i>

439
00:21:44,018 --> 00:21:47,008
It was important to know
the hair stylist.

440
00:21:47,010 --> 00:21:51,003
Some of them were bitter,
angry, jealous.

441
00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:53,011
Envy was a very key factor.

442
00:21:53,013 --> 00:21:56,003
In Hollywood, it was amazing
how many people were prepared

443
00:21:56,005 --> 00:21:58,011
to sell out the stars
they worked for.

444
00:21:58,013 --> 00:21:59,021
Calder:
<i>Someone in your PR office,</i>

445
00:22:00,005 --> 00:22:01,029
<i>someone in your lawyer's office,</i>
<i>someone in your agent's office.</i>

446
00:22:02,001 --> 00:22:04,018
Regan: <i>And the agents</i>
<i>double-dipped all the time.</i>

447
00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:06,029
That's, like,
standard operating procedure.

448
00:22:07,013 --> 00:22:10,007
Brenna: <i>The average snitch</i>
<i>with just a silly little tip</i>

449
00:22:10,009 --> 00:22:12,000
<i>would be getting 300 bucks.</i>

450
00:22:12,008 --> 00:22:15,024
<i>If the tip made the cover,</i>
<i>it was more like 5,000,</i>

451
00:22:15,026 --> 00:22:19,029
six thousand, ten thousand.
We're talking about big bucks.

452
00:22:21,026 --> 00:22:23,017
Haberman: I mean, you...
you were not supposed to pay

453
00:22:23,019 --> 00:22:26,000
for news. Um, you know,
when I was at the <i>New York Post,</i>

454
00:22:26,009 --> 00:22:28,002
um, you would pay for photos,
um,

455
00:22:28,004 --> 00:22:30,019
but that's very, very different.
A lot of outlets do that.

456
00:22:30,021 --> 00:22:32,026
Um, you do not pay
for information.

457
00:22:34,025 --> 00:22:36,017
Coz: <i>The mainstream media</i>
<i>went after us</i>

458
00:22:36,019 --> 00:22:39,008
saying we paid sources.
We said, "Yes, we do."

459
00:22:39,010 --> 00:22:41,019
Listen. If they've got
the information,

460
00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:43,014
they should be paid for it.

461
00:22:46,011 --> 00:22:47,029
Regan: <i>When I started</i>
<i>at the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>

462
00:22:48,001 --> 00:22:49,008
<i>as a reporter,</i>

463
00:22:49,017 --> 00:22:51,004
<i>I didn't know very much</i>
<i>about the world,</i>

464
00:22:51,006 --> 00:22:54,021
and one of the great heartaches
of my experience there

465
00:22:54,023 --> 00:22:55,021
was to see

466
00:22:56,002 --> 00:22:57,029
that if you were famous,
if you were rich,

467
00:22:58,001 --> 00:22:59,011
if you were a celebrity,

468
00:22:59,017 --> 00:23:01,016
that people in your orbit

469
00:23:01,018 --> 00:23:05,017
would undoubtedly one day
betray you for money,

470
00:23:05,025 --> 00:23:07,010
and the thing that shocked me

471
00:23:07,012 --> 00:23:10,002
was that it was always
the people close to you

472
00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:12,021
who would betray you the most.

473
00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:18,010
male reporter:

474
00:23:18,012 --> 00:23:19,020
woman:

475
00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:21,003
male reporter: <i>Okay.</i>

476
00:23:51,019 --> 00:23:54,011
woman:

477
00:24:00,004 --> 00:24:01,027
Sternig:
<i>I had a story about Bob Hope,</i>

478
00:24:01,029 --> 00:24:04,010
<i>and it was about all</i>
<i>of his philandering</i>

479
00:24:04,012 --> 00:24:06,019
<i>and some of his mistresses</i>
<i>and all this, so I...</i>

480
00:24:06,025 --> 00:24:09,025
I wrote it up. I submitted it.
Mr. Pope got it,

481
00:24:10,005 --> 00:24:11,027
and he said to me,

482
00:24:12,015 --> 00:24:13,022
"Barbara,

483
00:24:14,004 --> 00:24:17,008
I don't think America wants
to know this about Bob Hope,"

484
00:24:19,015 --> 00:24:22,020
<i>and he killed the story.</i>
<i>Mr. Pope killed the story.</i>

485
00:24:22,022 --> 00:24:24,006
<i>There had to be some advantage</i>

486
00:24:24,008 --> 00:24:25,022
<i>that they would get out</i>
<i>of killing a story.</i>

487
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,016
"There's a scandal?
There's a negative story?

488
00:24:29,025 --> 00:24:34,004
Oh, in exchange,
we'll do Bob Hope at home.

489
00:24:34,013 --> 00:24:36,003
<i>We'll make a deal with you</i>

490
00:24:36,005 --> 00:24:38,029
<i>to do nice stories,</i>
<i>and you'll cooperate with us,</i>

491
00:24:39,009 --> 00:24:41,009
<i>and we'll take</i>
<i>beautiful pictures,</i>

492
00:24:42,010 --> 00:24:44,011
<i>and all that other stuff</i>
<i>will go away,"</i>

493
00:24:44,021 --> 00:24:47,001
and then you'd have an ongoing
relationship with them.

494
00:24:47,003 --> 00:24:48,019
It's like getting them
on the hook,

495
00:24:48,029 --> 00:24:50,013
<i>and then they have</i>
<i>to keep giving you</i>

496
00:24:50,015 --> 00:24:53,005
these positive stories.
It's protection money,

497
00:24:53,014 --> 00:24:55,003
and that's how the Mafia works.

498
00:24:56,013 --> 00:24:58,027
Calder: <i>We were the only people</i>
<i>that celebrities had to fear</i>

499
00:24:58,029 --> 00:25:00,010
<i>if they did something wrong.</i>

500
00:25:00,019 --> 00:25:02,004
They had to worry
about the <i>Enquirer</i><i>knowing</i>

501
00:25:02,006 --> 00:25:03,011
'cause we knew...

502
00:25:03,024 --> 00:25:05,017
I wouldn't say everything,
but we knew a heck of a lot.

503
00:25:08,001 --> 00:25:09,021
male reporter:

504
00:25:12,017 --> 00:25:14,024
woman:

505
00:25:15,001 --> 00:25:17,015
male reporter:

506
00:25:18,021 --> 00:25:19,027
woman:

507
00:25:24,021 --> 00:25:26,010
male reporter: All right.
We'll... (phone disconnects)

508
00:25:26,012 --> 00:25:28,005
man: <i>And there were</i>
<i>several people with him,</i>

509
00:25:28,017 --> 00:25:31,001
<i>and we don't have</i>
<i>the information yet as to who..</i>

510
00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:34,006
Balfour: Some of the things
that we did to get a story,

511
00:25:34,012 --> 00:25:38,001
uh, blurred the lines
of legality, I would say.

512
00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:41,008
I mean, I've done dirty tricks.
Oh, my Lord.

513
00:25:42,025 --> 00:25:44,015
Brenna: <i>Phones were bugged</i>

514
00:25:44,017 --> 00:25:47,017
<i>by private detectives</i>
<i>employed by the</i><i>Enquirer.</i>

515
00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:50,029
<i>People's mail</i>
<i>was sometimes being read,</i>

516
00:25:51,001 --> 00:25:55,008
taken out of letter boxes
and opened and resealed and...

517
00:25:55,010 --> 00:25:56,012
and what have you.

518
00:25:56,026 --> 00:25:58,010
Haley: <i>Was there things</i>
<i>that were done</i>

519
00:25:58,012 --> 00:26:00,002
<i>that were questionable,</i>

520
00:26:00,027 --> 00:26:02,000
outright illegal?

521
00:26:03,010 --> 00:26:08,006
- Maybe.
- (audience cheering)

522
00:26:14,017 --> 00:26:17,001
I've loved him for nine years!

523
00:26:17,021 --> 00:26:19,012
(music playing)

524
00:26:19,014 --> 00:26:23,014
Sternig: <i>Elvis was everything</i>
<i>to an</i><i>Enquirer</i><i>reader.</i>

525
00:26:23,016 --> 00:26:26,007
- (music playing)
- (audience cheering)

526
00:26:29,017 --> 00:26:31,016
Balfour: <i>Elvis Presley</i>
<i>could make or break</i>

527
00:26:31,018 --> 00:26:33,020
<i>a whole tabloid.</i>
<i>It could make or break</i>

528
00:26:33,022 --> 00:26:36,004
<i>a whole tabloid</i>
<i>reporter's career.</i>

529
00:26:42,004 --> 00:26:44,013
male news reporter:
<i>Elvis Presley, the longtime kig</i>

530
00:26:44,015 --> 00:26:46,003
of rock 'n' roll, is dead.

531
00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:48,005
An autopsy report
released tonight...

532
00:26:48,007 --> 00:26:51,008
(speaking French)

533
00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:53,001
Tomorrow, Elvis Presley
will be buried

534
00:26:53,003 --> 00:26:54,008
after a private funeral.

535
00:26:55,019 --> 00:26:58,020
I was in the office in 1977
when Elvis died.

536
00:26:58,029 --> 00:27:00,021
The news broke
about five o'clock

537
00:27:00,023 --> 00:27:04,018
in the afternoon, and by 5:45,

538
00:27:04,028 --> 00:27:06,029
<i>there were six of us</i>
<i>on a Learjet</i>

539
00:27:07,007 --> 00:27:08,014
<i>heading for Memphis.</i>

540
00:27:09,013 --> 00:27:11,014
<i>There was one extra bag</i>
<i>on the plane,</i>

541
00:27:11,022 --> 00:27:15,025
<i>and that bag contained</i>
<i>fifty thousand dollars in cash.</i>

542
00:27:16,014 --> 00:27:17,027
male reporter 1: <i>By 5:00 p.m.,</i>

543
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:19,025
<i>the crowd numbered</i>
<i>more than 70,000.</i>

544
00:27:20,009 --> 00:27:22,015
male reporter 2: <i>For many,</i>
<i>it was all just too much.</i>

545
00:27:22,021 --> 00:27:25,022
<i>Friends tried to comfort fans</i>
<i>who'd waited 20 hours</i>

546
00:27:25,024 --> 00:27:27,017
<i>to pay their last respects.</i>

547
00:27:27,019 --> 00:27:30,000
All I feel is just hurt.
I hurt all over.

548
00:27:30,014 --> 00:27:32,024
Brenna: <i>When we got to Memphis,</i>
<i>we took over the entire floor</i>

549
00:27:32,026 --> 00:27:34,004
<i>of a Holiday Inn,</i>

550
00:27:34,006 --> 00:27:36,002
<i>booked up every room</i>
<i>in the hotel.</i>

551
00:27:36,004 --> 00:27:39,023
<i>We had fax machines going</i>
<i>and photocopying machines.</i>

552
00:27:39,025 --> 00:27:42,013
Yeah, we turned the hotel
into a newspaper office.

553
00:27:42,015 --> 00:27:43,024
And they put out the word

554
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,018
that if anybody has got
anything, we'll pay them.

555
00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:48,021
And that cash rapidly started
to be distributed

556
00:27:48,023 --> 00:27:51,006
to various sources in Memphis.

557
00:27:51,014 --> 00:27:53,019
<i>We bought up almost everybody.</i>

558
00:27:53,021 --> 00:27:56,019
male reporter 3: <i>The huge crowds</i>
<i>have become steadily bigger</i>

559
00:27:56,021 --> 00:27:58,000
<i>throughout the day.</i>

560
00:27:58,011 --> 00:28:00,020
<i>The families say they want</i>
<i>the funeral to be quiet,</i>

561
00:28:00,022 --> 00:28:03,017
<i>to be dignified,</i>
<i>and to be a family affair.</i>

562
00:28:03,019 --> 00:28:05,024
Brenna: <i>Pope had</i>
<i>a very strange mentality.</i>

563
00:28:05,026 --> 00:28:09,014
<i>He wanted to know all the ins</i>
<i>and outs of people's deaths.</i>

564
00:28:09,022 --> 00:28:11,009
male reporter 4:
<i>Before the funeral,</i>

565
00:28:11,020 --> 00:28:13,018
<i>Elvis Presley's body, dressed</i>
<i>in a white dinner jacket,</i>

566
00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:16,004
<i>lay in a copper coffin</i>
<i>for people to see</i>

567
00:28:16,006 --> 00:28:17,010
<i>though not photograph.</i>

568
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:19,005
male reporter 5: <i>Cameras</i>
<i>were not permitted.</i>

569
00:28:19,015 --> 00:28:21,017
The perfect <i>Enquirer</i><i>photo,</i>
nobody else had it.

570
00:28:22,013 --> 00:28:25,002
It had to be a one-of-a-kind.

571
00:28:25,015 --> 00:28:27,021
It had to tell a story
unto itself,

572
00:28:27,028 --> 00:28:30,012
and it had to be something
that everybody wanted to see.

573
00:28:31,007 --> 00:28:32,024
<i>The right photo could bring</i>

574
00:28:32,026 --> 00:28:36,008
<i>the phenomenal amount of money</i>
<i>depending on how right it was,</i>

575
00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:40,008
so what's the ultimate picture
that you're gonna get of Elvis?

576
00:28:43,016 --> 00:28:44,026
Elvis in the coffin.

577
00:28:46,021 --> 00:28:49,005
Wright: <i>That was an operation</i>
<i>that was highly secret,</i>

578
00:28:49,007 --> 00:28:51,025
<i>went on for days and days</i>
<i>and days.</i>

579
00:28:54,007 --> 00:28:56,006
male reporter 6:
<i>It was a white cortege,</i>

580
00:28:56,008 --> 00:28:59,008
<i>a white hearse,</i>
<i>and ten white Cadillacs.</i>

581
00:28:59,017 --> 00:29:03,004
<i>Elvis loved Cadillacs.</i>
<i>He had a dozen himself.</i>

582
00:29:03,006 --> 00:29:05,026
Coz: <i>So all the relatives</i>
<i>were in line</i>

583
00:29:05,028 --> 00:29:08,016
at his casket
to bid him farewell.

584
00:29:08,024 --> 00:29:12,010
We dressed up a portly,
older British gentleman

585
00:29:12,012 --> 00:29:14,027
as a priest, and he was in line.

586
00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:17,016
He got to the casket.
And underneath his robe,

587
00:29:17,018 --> 00:29:19,007
he had
a little miniature camera.

588
00:29:19,023 --> 00:29:22,006
But he couldn't get high enough
to get the picture,

589
00:29:22,008 --> 00:29:23,012
so we didn't have that.

590
00:29:23,024 --> 00:29:25,011
<i>One of our photographers</i>

591
00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:28,003
<i>saw Elvis' cousin going</i>
<i>to a local bar.</i>

592
00:29:28,012 --> 00:29:31,007
<i>And he followed him in,</i>
<i>and as the guy's standing ther,</i>

593
00:29:31,009 --> 00:29:33,013
<i>he says to him, "How'd you like</i>
<i>to make a lot of money?"</i>

594
00:29:33,015 --> 00:29:34,024
<i>Guy says, "Oh,</i>
<i>I'd love to, mate."</i>

595
00:29:35,004 --> 00:29:36,015
He said, "If I gave you
a camera,

596
00:29:36,017 --> 00:29:38,006
could you get a picture
of Elvis in his coffin?"

597
00:29:38,008 --> 00:29:39,020
- "Sure."
- (camera shutter clicks)

598
00:29:39,022 --> 00:29:40,025
Wright: <i>Unfortunately,</i>
<i>it didn't work</i>

599
00:29:40,027 --> 00:29:42,009
<i>the first couple of times,</i>

600
00:29:42,018 --> 00:29:45,011
and he had to make excuses
to go back and pay his respects

601
00:29:45,013 --> 00:29:46,022
over and over again.

602
00:29:47,004 --> 00:29:50,015
The first picture is a picture
of the guy taking the picture.

603
00:29:50,017 --> 00:29:51,029
He had turned it 'round
the wrong way.

604
00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:56,018
Okay. Second one...
picture of the chandelier.

605
00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:58,010
I go, "Oh, my God."

606
00:29:58,012 --> 00:30:01,002
The third one
was just brilliant.

607
00:30:01,004 --> 00:30:03,007
<i>It was the perfect</i>
<i>page-one picture.</i>

608
00:30:03,009 --> 00:30:06,014
We sold 6.9 million copies
that week.

609
00:30:06,016 --> 00:30:11,009
People were stealing copies.
This was so huge.

610
00:30:11,011 --> 00:30:14,013
<i>♪ Let's go ♪</i>

611
00:30:21,019 --> 00:30:23,020
<i>- ♪ Ballroom blitz ♪</i>
<i>- ♪ Blitz, blitz, blitz... ♪</i>

612
00:30:23,028 --> 00:30:26,008
Sternig: <i>Mary Jane buys</i>
<i>the paper. She gives it to mom.</i>

613
00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:28,026
<i>Mom gives it to niece.</i>
<i>Niece gives it to her husband.</i>

614
00:30:29,004 --> 00:30:31,009
There were 25 million readers
a week.

615
00:30:31,015 --> 00:30:33,003
Wright: <i>The</i><i>Enquirer had</i>
<i>so much mail</i>

616
00:30:33,005 --> 00:30:36,000
that they had
their own ZIP code, 33464.

617
00:30:36,017 --> 00:30:38,023
Calder: <i>Thousands and thousands</i>
<i>of letters a day.</i>

618
00:30:38,025 --> 00:30:40,008
<i>We were bigger</i>
<i>than</i><i>Time</i><i>magazine.</i>

619
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:41,024
<i>We were bigger than</i><i>Newsweek.</i>

620
00:30:41,026 --> 00:30:43,014
<i>We sold more copies</i>
<i>than anyone else.</i>

621
00:30:43,016 --> 00:30:45,021
This is your favorite magazine,
the <i>National Enquirer.</i>

622
00:30:46,024 --> 00:30:48,006
Carson: <i>Here we go again.</i>

623
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,016
narrator: <i>Iain Calder on dirt.</i>

624
00:30:50,022 --> 00:30:53,010
At the <i>National Enquirer,</i>
we uncover more dirt than anyone

625
00:30:53,012 --> 00:30:55,004
<i>except possibly</i>
<i>this Hoover cleaner</i>

626
00:30:55,006 --> 00:30:56,014
<i>with attached tools and hose.</i>

627
00:30:56,016 --> 00:30:58,020
It may even get more dirt
than we do.

628
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,029
(music playing)

629
00:31:04,006 --> 00:31:06,012
Calder: <i>When we had</i>
<i>a major front page</i>

630
00:31:06,027 --> 00:31:08,011
<i>and it sold really well,</i>

631
00:31:08,021 --> 00:31:11,008
I maybe had ten minutes
of euphoria.

632
00:31:11,023 --> 00:31:15,006
<i>Then I would remember I had</i>
<i>to find a great front page</i>

633
00:31:15,012 --> 00:31:18,015
that was gonna sell four
and a half, five million copies.

634
00:31:18,022 --> 00:31:21,011
So every single week,
it just went on,

635
00:31:21,013 --> 00:31:23,005
and on, and on like that.

636
00:31:23,027 --> 00:31:26,000
male reporter 1: <i>When his body</i>
<i>was found last week,</i>

637
00:31:26,002 --> 00:31:28,020
<i>police said John Belushi</i>
<i>at the age of only 33</i>

638
00:31:28,022 --> 00:31:32,011
<i>had died of natural causes</i>
<i>and that there was no foul pla.</i>

639
00:31:32,013 --> 00:31:33,028
When somebody dies, it's like,

640
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,020
"Okay. Let's bad-mouth them
as much as possible.

641
00:31:35,022 --> 00:31:37,011
Let's put it in the <i>Enquirer."</i>

642
00:31:37,013 --> 00:31:39,003
John Belushi dying
was a big story,

643
00:31:39,005 --> 00:31:41,024
but we always wanted to do
the story behind the story.

644
00:31:41,026 --> 00:31:43,002
That's what sold papers.

645
00:31:43,008 --> 00:31:47,007
So, uh, I picked two
really great reporters.

646
00:31:47,018 --> 00:31:50,019
Uh, Tony Brenna and I,
who was my partner in that.

647
00:31:50,021 --> 00:31:53,029
I think Haley
was a very competent journalist,

648
00:31:54,023 --> 00:31:57,011
even by <i>Enquirer</i><i>standards.</i>

649
00:31:57,013 --> 00:32:01,001
I was in Lantana in March
when he died

650
00:32:01,003 --> 00:32:02,016
<i>at the Chateau Marmont.</i>

651
00:32:02,022 --> 00:32:04,015
<i>We wanted to know</i>
<i>what happened that night,</i>

652
00:32:04,017 --> 00:32:06,015
and there was this mystery woman
whose name wasn't released.

653
00:32:06,017 --> 00:32:08,021
They called her Cathy Silverbags

654
00:32:08,028 --> 00:32:12,003
<i>because she sold drugs</i>
<i>out of a silver purse.</i>

655
00:32:12,014 --> 00:32:14,001
male reporter 2:
<i>Cathy Evelyn Smith</i>

656
00:32:14,003 --> 00:32:16,005
<i>listed her profession</i>
<i>as backup singer.</i>

657
00:32:16,015 --> 00:32:18,027
<i>Police questioned</i>
<i>but then released her.</i>

658
00:32:19,014 --> 00:32:21,002
male reporter 3: <i>So Smith,</i>
<i>a 35-year-old</i>

659
00:32:21,004 --> 00:32:23,011
<i>rock-'n'-roll groupie,</i>
<i>went home to Toronto.</i>

660
00:32:23,013 --> 00:32:28,020
We then went up to Canada
to find Cathy Smith.

661
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,008
We spent about ten days
in a hotel room.

662
00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:34,029
And the story came in,
and I say,

663
00:32:35,019 --> 00:32:38,026
"You know, this woman is saying
that she killed John Belushi.

664
00:32:38,028 --> 00:32:42,004
She's not saying it."
I said, "I want that headline."

665
00:32:42,012 --> 00:32:44,023
I said, "Go back
and get her to say,

666
00:32:44,025 --> 00:32:47,004
'I killed John Belushi,'
on tape."

667
00:32:47,019 --> 00:32:51,022
So we spent the next week
partying with her.

668
00:32:51,024 --> 00:32:53,021
We ran up an enormous hotel bill

669
00:32:53,023 --> 00:32:56,026
and had a great time
and became her best friends.

670
00:33:03,019 --> 00:33:06,005
And she didn't want to say it.

671
00:33:07,015 --> 00:33:08,027
Haley:
<i>Tony had a tape reporter going.</i>

672
00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:11,005
<i>I had one going.</i>
<i>She would say,</i>

673
00:33:11,014 --> 00:33:13,009
"Yeah. I... We were responsible
for his death, but I...

674
00:33:13,011 --> 00:33:16,009
- We can't say that."
- I said, "Oh, c'mon, Catherine.

675
00:33:16,016 --> 00:33:17,028
Let's get this over with.

676
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,011
You killed the guy,
under any circumstance.

677
00:33:20,013 --> 00:33:22,006
You shot him up with heroin

678
00:33:22,015 --> 00:33:24,010
and cocaine, and he died,"

679
00:33:24,019 --> 00:33:26,020
and she said, "Well,
if you want me to say that,

680
00:33:26,022 --> 00:33:28,025
- I killed him."
- Turn off the tape.

681
00:33:29,005 --> 00:33:30,014
Brenna: <i>And click.</i>

682
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:33,002
You know,
Brenna turns his tape off.

683
00:33:33,004 --> 00:33:34,007
I leave mine running.

684
00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:37,029
<i>So I ended up taping her...</i>

685
00:33:39,027 --> 00:33:41,011
confessing to the murder.

686
00:33:42,015 --> 00:33:44,009
Calder: <i>So anyway,</i>
<i>they got her to say it.</i>

687
00:33:44,011 --> 00:33:47,019
<i>We ran this front-page story,</i>
<i>"I killed John Belushi."</i>

688
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,004
Haley:
<i>It's the murder confession.</i>

689
00:33:50,006 --> 00:33:51,016
<i>It's all the details.</i>

690
00:33:52,006 --> 00:33:53,029
<i>She was John Belushi's...</i>

691
00:33:54,014 --> 00:33:56,013
<i>Florence Nightingale</i>
<i>with a needle.</i>

692
00:33:56,021 --> 00:33:59,017
<i>Well, it's not something</i>
<i>Cathy Smith is going to say.</i>

693
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,007
It's not something most people
are gonna say,

694
00:34:02,026 --> 00:34:05,006
but you say, you know,

695
00:34:05,012 --> 00:34:08,005
"You were sort of like
a Florence Nightingale

696
00:34:08,007 --> 00:34:09,024
with a needle.
That's what you're saying."

697
00:34:09,026 --> 00:34:11,007
She says, "Yeah. That's right."

698
00:34:11,027 --> 00:34:13,011
<i>She's being fed a quote.</i>

699
00:34:15,007 --> 00:34:16,011
<i>That's how it works.</i>

700
00:34:21,002 --> 00:34:22,026
Brenna: <i>We knew</i>
<i>that what she was saying</i>

701
00:34:22,028 --> 00:34:24,022
<i>was gonna be self-incriminating,</i>

702
00:34:25,006 --> 00:34:28,018
and that she would probably
be arrested for it, and she was.

703
00:34:30,022 --> 00:34:33,011
So the prosecutor's office
went nuts.

704
00:34:33,013 --> 00:34:34,025
male reporter 4:
<i>In an</i><i>Enquirer</i><i>article,</i>

705
00:34:34,027 --> 00:34:36,016
<i>written by Brenna and Haley,</i>

706
00:34:36,018 --> 00:34:38,026
<i>Smith appears to confess</i>
<i>to injecting Belushi</i>

707
00:34:38,028 --> 00:34:41,001
<i>with a fatal dose</i>
<i>of heroin and cocaine.</i>

708
00:34:41,007 --> 00:34:42,029
Brenna:
<i>And for the next six months,</i>

709
00:34:43,001 --> 00:34:44,026
<i>I was in front of a grand jury.</i>

710
00:34:45,019 --> 00:34:47,026
Haley:
<i>I mean, this was the first time</i>

711
00:34:47,028 --> 00:34:50,002
<i>that</i><i>National Enquirer</i><i>reporter</i>

712
00:34:50,016 --> 00:34:53,019
<i>had to show up by subpoena</i>
<i>to a grand-jury</i>

713
00:34:53,021 --> 00:34:56,009
<i>murder investigation</i>
<i>on a major celebrity.</i>

714
00:34:56,011 --> 00:34:57,013
It was stressful.

715
00:34:58,001 --> 00:34:59,025
Uh, actually,
my marriage fell apart.

716
00:34:59,027 --> 00:35:01,006
Tony's fell apart first,

717
00:35:01,008 --> 00:35:03,000
I followed pretty much
right behind him.

718
00:35:03,009 --> 00:35:06,009
I felt that we had crossed
the line on that story.

719
00:35:06,019 --> 00:35:08,015
We had, uh,

720
00:35:09,014 --> 00:35:12,018
gone too far
in becoming her friend,

721
00:35:13,004 --> 00:35:17,004
<i>and I felt we had sold her out,</i>
<i>and I felt that particularly so</i>

722
00:35:17,013 --> 00:35:19,009
<i>when she actually</i>
<i>went to prison.</i>

723
00:35:19,019 --> 00:35:20,029
<i>John Belushi's story</i>

724
00:35:21,013 --> 00:35:25,008
<i>would be one of the occasions</i>
<i>that got to be...</i>

725
00:35:26,004 --> 00:35:27,023
ethically challenging.

726
00:35:28,005 --> 00:35:31,020
- (crowd cheering)
- (whistling)

727
00:35:36,015 --> 00:35:39,023
Sternig: <i>Becoming</i>
<i>a famous celebrity</i>

728
00:35:39,025 --> 00:35:40,029
<i>is a trade-off.</i>

729
00:35:42,001 --> 00:35:44,028
You want the public
to admire you.

730
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,008
That's not free.
That's not free.

731
00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:51,011
You have to give, in return,
some access to your life.

732
00:35:51,019 --> 00:35:54,005
What you give up is anonymity.

733
00:36:02,029 --> 00:36:05,003
<i>I had a contact in Las Vegas</i>

734
00:36:05,005 --> 00:36:08,020
who tipped me off
that Cosby was keeping a girl.

735
00:36:12,011 --> 00:36:13,029
<i>And she was a showgirl.</i>

736
00:36:17,027 --> 00:36:19,007
<i>He bought a house for her,</i>

737
00:36:19,009 --> 00:36:21,006
and he would go up to Vegas
and visit her.

738
00:36:22,002 --> 00:36:25,015
So I ordered a stakeout,
a photographer we had in Vegas,

739
00:36:25,025 --> 00:36:28,019
<i>and he caught Cosby</i>
<i>going into the house,</i>

740
00:36:28,021 --> 00:36:30,007
<i>coming out of the house</i>
<i>with the girl,</i>

741
00:36:30,009 --> 00:36:31,022
<i>kissing her at the door,</i>
<i>all of this.</i>

742
00:36:33,016 --> 00:36:35,012
And I had a couple
other contacts of mine

743
00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:37,021
who were able
to confirm this story.

744
00:36:40,002 --> 00:36:42,012
<i>I wrote it up,</i>
<i>gave it into my editor.</i>

745
00:36:42,019 --> 00:36:44,023
Mr. Pope saw the story,
and he said,

746
00:36:45,012 --> 00:36:48,001
"She's got to go
and call Cosby."

747
00:36:50,003 --> 00:36:52,008
<i>This was the time</i>
<i>that he was America's dad.</i>

748
00:36:52,010 --> 00:36:54,000
<i>He had</i><i>The Cosby Show</i>
<i>on television.</i>

749
00:36:54,008 --> 00:36:55,020
I'd been on the set many times.

750
00:36:55,022 --> 00:36:57,007
I interviewed all the other
people on there,

751
00:36:57,017 --> 00:37:00,015
and I thought, "Oh, my God.
If I have to call Cosby up now."

752
00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:02,005
They said,
"You got to call him,"

753
00:37:02,007 --> 00:37:03,016
so I called him,

754
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,017
and he, of course, said, uh,

755
00:37:07,002 --> 00:37:09,027
"What's the name
of your executive editor?"

756
00:37:10,018 --> 00:37:12,012
And I told him, and he said,

757
00:37:12,023 --> 00:37:14,020
"What number can I reach him?"

758
00:37:15,025 --> 00:37:16,028
I gave him the number.

759
00:37:17,006 --> 00:37:19,011
He said, "Thank you very much,"
and he hung up.

760
00:37:19,017 --> 00:37:21,017
He proceeded
to call Iain Calder,

761
00:37:22,007 --> 00:37:24,024
<i>who cut a deal with Cosby</i>
<i>to kill my story</i>

762
00:37:25,001 --> 00:37:29,008
<i>in exchange for a couple</i>
<i>of sit-down interviews</i>

763
00:37:29,019 --> 00:37:31,006
with any reporter

764
00:37:31,008 --> 00:37:33,007
except Barbara Sternig.
(chuckles)

765
00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:35,026
And that was kind of the end
of my relationship

766
00:37:35,028 --> 00:37:37,009
with <i>The Cosby Show.</i>

767
00:37:39,004 --> 00:37:40,021
Shipp: <i>For a long time,</i>
<i>we killed stories</i>

768
00:37:40,023 --> 00:37:43,002
about Bill Cosby.
I got some stories.

769
00:37:44,003 --> 00:37:45,023
<i>Little starlets</i>
<i>who were on his show,</i>

770
00:37:46,002 --> 00:37:48,019
<i>they would call in, you know,</i>
<i>"He did this. He did that."</i>

771
00:37:48,027 --> 00:37:51,015
I would go to my editor,
and I would put a lead in

772
00:37:51,022 --> 00:37:53,006
about the story
and it gets approved

773
00:37:53,008 --> 00:37:55,008
or not approved.
I never heard about it again.

774
00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:57,014
It was never seen again.

775
00:37:58,014 --> 00:38:00,024
You ask about it, and we'll say,
"We'll get back to you,"

776
00:38:01,024 --> 00:38:04,008
but you learned,
at least for me early on,

777
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:06,011
I was brand-new. I'm still
trying to prove myself...

778
00:38:06,013 --> 00:38:07,012
You didn't push it.

779
00:38:07,028 --> 00:38:09,014
Calder: <i>I was making trades</i>

780
00:38:10,003 --> 00:38:12,012
<i>that would make</i>
<i>our readers happier,</i>

781
00:38:12,024 --> 00:38:14,015
<i>but I had to make</i>
<i>that decision myself.</i>

782
00:38:14,017 --> 00:38:15,023
<i>What's the better stories?</i>

783
00:38:16,015 --> 00:38:19,009
We were keen on any story
that would sell papers.

784
00:38:19,022 --> 00:38:22,003
There's a sort of nasty
little characteristic

785
00:38:22,005 --> 00:38:23,009
that people have.

786
00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:25,023
They... they... they get
a little jealous of success.

787
00:38:25,025 --> 00:38:28,010
They want to see somebody
taken down a peg or two.

788
00:38:28,029 --> 00:38:30,029
Brenna:
<i>It's like in ancient Rome, oka?</i>

789
00:38:31,001 --> 00:38:33,002
They cheer them
when they are famous,

790
00:38:33,004 --> 00:38:34,028
and they cheer them
when they're doing well,

791
00:38:35,004 --> 00:38:38,004
but when things go wrong,
they give them the thumbs-down

792
00:38:38,006 --> 00:38:40,026
and say, "Good riddance.
To hell with them."

793
00:38:40,028 --> 00:38:44,019
(crowd applauding)

794
00:38:46,015 --> 00:38:51,017
I intend to seek the presidency
of the United States in 1988.

795
00:38:51,019 --> 00:38:54,022
(crowd cheering and applauding)

796
00:38:54,024 --> 00:38:57,019
The <i>Enquirer,</i><i>for a long time,</i>
didn't touch politics

797
00:38:57,021 --> 00:39:01,006
because Generoso Pope
didn't think politicians sold.

798
00:39:01,017 --> 00:39:06,000
But politics became
another form of celebrity,

799
00:39:06,020 --> 00:39:09,025
and that's where the <i>Enquirer</i>
got into it.

800
00:39:12,025 --> 00:39:15,024
Coz: <i>You can't underestimate</i>
<i>the significance of Gary Hart</i>

801
00:39:15,026 --> 00:39:17,001
<i>to the</i><i>National Enquirer.</i>

802
00:39:18,006 --> 00:39:19,019
Calder: <i>We weren't interested</i>
<i>in doing stories</i>

803
00:39:19,021 --> 00:39:22,015
<i>about potential</i>
<i>presidential candidates</i>

804
00:39:22,022 --> 00:39:24,019
<i>and politicians, per se,</i>

805
00:39:25,005 --> 00:39:27,009
unless there was some,
really, other story.

806
00:39:27,020 --> 00:39:29,009
Auletta: <i>Gary Hart was young.</i>

807
00:39:29,015 --> 00:39:32,007
<i>He was good-looking.</i>
<i>He was from out west,</i>

808
00:39:32,022 --> 00:39:34,004
<i>had friends like Warren Beatty</i>

809
00:39:34,006 --> 00:39:36,003
<i>and a lot</i>
<i>of other Hollywood stars,</i>

810
00:39:36,012 --> 00:39:38,010
and the thought was
that he was gonna win

811
00:39:38,012 --> 00:39:40,000
the Democratic nomination.

812
00:39:41,001 --> 00:39:42,001
He was a meteor.

813
00:39:53,012 --> 00:39:55,022
Haley: The Miami Herald <i>came out</i>
<i>with their story,</i>

814
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,028
<i>a romance</i>
<i>between these two people.</i>

815
00:39:58,015 --> 00:40:01,027
Why is <i>The Miami Herald</i><i>engagin</i>
in <i>Enquirer</i><i>type shit, you know?</i>

816
00:40:02,011 --> 00:40:04,010
<i>And I thought, "Well,</i>
<i>why don't we try to see</i>

817
00:40:04,012 --> 00:40:06,007
<i>if we can get a piece</i>
<i>of this whole action</i>

818
00:40:06,009 --> 00:40:08,002
<i>and this Gary Hart thing</i>
<i>the</i><i>Herald</i><i>has got?"</i>

819
00:40:08,021 --> 00:40:11,018
All I can say is, a picture
is worth a thousand words.

820
00:40:13,023 --> 00:40:15,017
male reporter 1:

821
00:40:20,006 --> 00:40:22,027
male reporter 2:

822
00:40:23,028 --> 00:40:25,019
male reporter 3:

823
00:40:29,019 --> 00:40:32,005
He basically challenged
the press.

824
00:40:32,007 --> 00:40:36,007
He said, "If you think I have
a girlfriend, go for it."

825
00:40:36,009 --> 00:40:38,006
Come on.
That's the perfect setup

826
00:40:38,008 --> 00:40:41,000
<i>for being on a</i><i>Enquirer</i>
<i>front-page story is,</i>

827
00:40:41,002 --> 00:40:45,007
good-looking, sexy,
lying politician.

828
00:40:45,027 --> 00:40:47,005
male reporter 4:

829
00:40:49,024 --> 00:40:53,022
Did I do anything immoral?
I absolutely did not.

830
00:40:53,024 --> 00:40:55,017
Calder: <i>He went on television.</i>
<i>He said, "It's not true.</i>

831
00:40:55,019 --> 00:40:57,009
<i>It's absolutely not true.</i>
<i>We know it's not true,"</i>

832
00:40:57,015 --> 00:41:00,002
<i>and he had his wife by his side</i>
<i>who stood by him.</i>

833
00:41:00,004 --> 00:41:02,029
And when Gary says,
"Nothing happened,"

834
00:41:03,027 --> 00:41:05,005
nothing happened.

835
00:41:05,019 --> 00:41:08,015
Virga: <i>I mean, everybody knew</i>
<i>he'd had a thing with this gir,</i>

836
00:41:08,029 --> 00:41:10,021
but nobody had the proof.

837
00:41:10,023 --> 00:41:13,009
(helicopter whirring)

838
00:41:13,018 --> 00:41:15,013
Coz: <i>We discovered through one</i>
<i>of his neighbors</i>

839
00:41:15,015 --> 00:41:19,009
<i>that he had gone down to take</i>
<i>a boat ride out of Miami,</i>

840
00:41:19,019 --> 00:41:21,000
<i>and he had a girl with him.</i>

841
00:41:21,025 --> 00:41:26,000
We swept through that wharf
for five days

842
00:41:26,006 --> 00:41:28,009
trying to find somebody
with knowledge of it.

843
00:41:29,013 --> 00:41:31,004
Haley:
<i>We had contact with a freelancr</i>

844
00:41:31,006 --> 00:41:33,016
<i>who knew</i>
<i>this photograph existed,</i>

845
00:41:33,029 --> 00:41:36,015
and we came to an arrangement.

846
00:41:38,016 --> 00:41:40,004
<i>It's 87,000 dollars,</i>

847
00:41:40,025 --> 00:41:44,020
and we owned worldwide rights
to that photo forever.

848
00:41:48,026 --> 00:41:50,015
Virga: <i>I couldn't have created</i>
<i>a better picture.</i>

849
00:41:50,017 --> 00:41:52,003
<i>I couldn't have sent</i>
<i>a photographer out</i>

850
00:41:52,005 --> 00:41:54,021
with instructions
and had him come back

851
00:41:54,027 --> 00:41:56,012
with something better than that.

852
00:41:58,011 --> 00:42:01,028
Coz: <i>That changed the face</i>
<i>of American politics.</i>

853
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,017
<i>Gary Hart had</i>
<i>an excellent chance</i>

854
00:42:03,019 --> 00:42:04,025
<i>of becoming president,</i>

855
00:42:05,001 --> 00:42:08,006
and that just destroyed
his political chances.

856
00:42:08,024 --> 00:42:10,014
I don't really want
to comment on that.

857
00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,014
Calder: <i>Dukakis took his place.</i>

858
00:42:12,016 --> 00:42:15,004
- Read my lips.
- (crowd cheering)

859
00:42:15,006 --> 00:42:18,001
No new taxes.

860
00:42:18,011 --> 00:42:19,025
Calder: <i>No chance</i>
<i>against George Bush,</i>

861
00:42:19,027 --> 00:42:21,020
<i>so George Bush became</i>
<i>president...</i>

862
00:42:21,022 --> 00:42:23,027
(fanfare playing)

863
00:42:24,007 --> 00:42:26,008
<i>...and his son</i>
<i>became president later.</i>

864
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:28,003
<i>We changed the course of histoy</i>
<i>with that.</i>

865
00:42:28,005 --> 00:42:30,005
Now, did we do well or not? I...

866
00:42:30,007 --> 00:42:33,020
That's not my problem.
My problem is, we got the story.

867
00:42:35,013 --> 00:42:38,022
Auletta: <i>The Gary Hart story</i>
<i>busted down the privacy wall,</i>

868
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,008
just smithereens,
just knocked it down and said,

869
00:42:42,021 --> 00:42:45,003
"We're gonna know everything
about everyone,"

870
00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:47,026
because it sold more papers.

871
00:42:48,003 --> 00:42:50,013
Rosenthal: <i>I think</i>
<i>it's important to journalists..</i>

872
00:42:51,019 --> 00:42:53,007
as to how they go after
the story,

873
00:42:53,009 --> 00:42:56,011
as to what they see themselves.
Are they news gatherers?

874
00:42:56,013 --> 00:42:59,009
Are they private eyes?
Are they voyeurs?

875
00:43:07,006 --> 00:43:09,011
Sternig: <i>Mr. Pope died in 1988.</i>

876
00:43:10,012 --> 00:43:11,029
Then there was a limbo period

877
00:43:12,001 --> 00:43:15,019
where things were
just kind of very tense...

878
00:43:17,028 --> 00:43:20,004
<i>and everybody was thrown</i>
<i>into a state</i>

879
00:43:20,006 --> 00:43:23,005
of complete uncertainty.
"What's gonna happen?

880
00:43:23,007 --> 00:43:24,014
Will the paper keep going?"

881
00:43:24,022 --> 00:43:26,027
Certainly, it was not going
to go on the way

882
00:43:26,029 --> 00:43:28,004
Mr. Pope ran it,

883
00:43:28,013 --> 00:43:31,006
because Mr. Pope owned
a 100 percent of the newspaper,

884
00:43:31,008 --> 00:43:34,014
and he got what he wanted
the way he wanted it.

885
00:43:39,009 --> 00:43:44,002
Brenna: <i>He had built a world</i>
<i>in which he was God,</i>

886
00:43:44,018 --> 00:43:46,017
and it was a small world

887
00:43:46,019 --> 00:43:49,016
populated by adoring figures
and people

888
00:43:49,018 --> 00:43:53,004
who would do anything
at his command.

889
00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:58,013
Pope II: <i>Basically, we're giving</i>
<i>the public a little hope,</i>

890
00:43:58,019 --> 00:44:00,025
<i>a little hope</i>
<i>that life isn't all</i>

891
00:44:01,003 --> 00:44:02,028
<i>as bad as it's portrayed.</i>

892
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:06,023
We like to tell people
that their problems

893
00:44:06,025 --> 00:44:09,005
are solvable.
There are solutions.

894
00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:13,004
Uh, things aren't quite as bad
as they might seem.

895
00:44:15,001 --> 00:44:16,026
We lost our identity...

896
00:44:17,014 --> 00:44:19,026
after Pope died.
We forgot who we were.

897
00:44:20,008 --> 00:44:23,001
We had so many changes
of ownership and leadership,

898
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:25,029
<i>every one of them</i>
<i>wanting to change something.</i>

899
00:44:26,024 --> 00:44:28,026
<i>The</i><i>Enquirer</i><i>had</i>
<i>a perfect formula,</i>

900
00:44:29,008 --> 00:44:32,009
and in my opinion,
they should've been left alone.

901
00:44:38,002 --> 00:44:41,021
Is it entertainment,
or is it information?

902
00:44:42,002 --> 00:44:44,024
Hubbard: I think it's both,
and I think a good newspaper

903
00:44:44,026 --> 00:44:46,017
is a combination
of entertainment

904
00:44:46,024 --> 00:44:47,028
and information.

905
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,015
One of my concerns
is that it dilutes

906
00:44:50,017 --> 00:44:52,020
the news-gathering
process broadly

907
00:44:52,026 --> 00:44:55,012
and that in the long run,
it affects me because...

908
00:44:56,004 --> 00:44:57,029
my publisher
or Jack's publisher says,

909
00:44:58,001 --> 00:44:59,027
"Oh, look at this stuff.
It's hot. It really sells.

910
00:44:59,029 --> 00:45:02,002
Don't you think you ought
to be moving a little more away

911
00:45:02,004 --> 00:45:04,024
from this boring
Sino-Soviet Summit stuff?"

912
00:45:04,026 --> 00:45:06,019
Hewitt: You're forgetting
something.

913
00:45:06,021 --> 00:45:09,010
There's nobody in this room
who doesn't deal in tragedy.

914
00:45:09,016 --> 00:45:10,017
Nobody in this room...

915
00:45:10,023 --> 00:45:12,016
How do you think
America found out

916
00:45:12,018 --> 00:45:14,001
about Jessica Hahn

917
00:45:14,003 --> 00:45:16,004
- and Jimmy Swaggart?
- Donahue: But that's not trash.

918
00:45:16,006 --> 00:45:18,005
That's... that's a great story!

919
00:45:18,011 --> 00:45:20,010
Why don't we just
acknowledge that's what it is.

920
00:45:20,012 --> 00:45:22,025
(audience laughing
and applauding)

921
00:45:29,001 --> 00:45:31,003
Coz: <i>The very first time</i>
<i>Donald Trump</i>

922
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:33,004
made a large presence

923
00:45:33,006 --> 00:45:34,021
on the cover
of the <i>National Enquirer</i>

924
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,020
was the Marla Maples years.

925
00:45:37,008 --> 00:45:40,005
<i>We got a picture of Donald</i>
<i>on the ski slopes</i>

926
00:45:40,007 --> 00:45:42,027
<i>with Marla Maples</i>
<i>and his wife, Ivana,</i>

927
00:45:42,029 --> 00:45:44,018
<i>all in the same frame.</i>

928
00:45:45,012 --> 00:45:46,022
Titillated America.

929
00:45:46,029 --> 00:45:48,021
Regan: <i>It was the heartache</i>
<i>and the betrayal,</i>

930
00:45:48,023 --> 00:45:51,005
<i>and he's cheating,</i>
<i>and they're on ski slopes,</i>

931
00:45:51,007 --> 00:45:52,019
<i>and he's bringing the mistress,</i>

932
00:45:52,027 --> 00:45:54,017
<i>and the mistress</i>
<i>is in the hotel room over here,</i>

933
00:45:54,019 --> 00:45:56,009
<i>and the wife is in</i>
<i>the hotel room over there.</i>

934
00:45:56,022 --> 00:45:59,016
It's a great story, right?
Everybody loves it.

935
00:46:06,009 --> 00:46:09,021
Bernstein: This Marla Maples-
Donald Trump story

936
00:46:10,003 --> 00:46:13,022
was occurring at the same time
that Nelson Mandela

937
00:46:14,007 --> 00:46:15,018
<i>was being released</i>

938
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:18,029
<i>from his years</i>
<i>in the South African gulag.</i>

939
00:46:19,007 --> 00:46:20,021
- (crowd cheering)
- Bernstein: <i>An event</i>

940
00:46:20,023 --> 00:46:23,027
<i>of tremendous importance</i>
<i>to the world.</i>

941
00:46:25,028 --> 00:46:29,008
<i>This was the purest example</i>
<i>of the movement</i>

942
00:46:29,014 --> 00:46:33,014
<i>from tabloids</i>
<i>into the mainstream press.</i>

943
00:46:35,004 --> 00:46:37,029
<i>And it also tells us something</i>
<i>about Donald Trump</i>

944
00:46:38,005 --> 00:46:42,012
and his rise through
the sensationalist press.

945
00:46:42,014 --> 00:46:45,008
- (woman speaking indistinctly)
- Trump: I don't know.

946
00:46:45,015 --> 00:46:48,014
Lambiet: <i>The biggest tipster</i>
<i>ever in the business</i>

947
00:46:48,016 --> 00:46:50,004
was Donald Trump.

948
00:46:50,018 --> 00:46:52,021
He would call the tabloids
in New York

949
00:46:52,028 --> 00:46:55,028
to drop gossip items
about himself.

950
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,016
Trump:

951
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,004
woman:

952
00:46:59,006 --> 00:47:01,003
Trump:

953
00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:04,011
woman: Right. Okay.

954
00:47:04,013 --> 00:47:06,019
He's had pseudonyms
where'd he call and pretend

955
00:47:06,021 --> 00:47:08,028
that he was a spokesperson.

956
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,019
- woman:
- Trump:

957
00:47:10,021 --> 00:47:12,008
woman:

958
00:47:12,010 --> 00:47:13,007
Trump:

959
00:47:13,009 --> 00:47:15,004
He really wanted to be a star.

960
00:47:15,006 --> 00:47:16,025
woman:

961
00:47:17,002 --> 00:47:18,029
Trump:

962
00:47:23,001 --> 00:47:24,004
- woman:
- Trump:

963
00:47:24,006 --> 00:47:25,022
<i>- Do you have a second?</i>
- woman:

964
00:47:27,005 --> 00:47:29,012
We recognized
that Donald Trump had value

965
00:47:29,014 --> 00:47:30,021
to the <i>National Enquirer</i>

966
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,015
because he could
sell newspapers.

967
00:47:33,001 --> 00:47:36,017
Brenna: <i>He's a very,</i>
<i>very good snake-oil salesman,</i>

968
00:47:36,024 --> 00:47:40,001
and he fit very well
with the <i>Enquirer.</i>

969
00:47:40,026 --> 00:47:42,024
Coz: <i>Our readers liked him,</i>
<i>so we put</i>

970
00:47:42,026 --> 00:47:44,003
<i>a gentleman in charge of him,</i>

971
00:47:44,005 --> 00:47:45,026
and the gentleman's name
was Larry Haley,

972
00:47:46,006 --> 00:47:47,027
<i>and Larry's job was basically</i>

973
00:47:48,005 --> 00:47:50,000
<i>to keep track</i>
<i>of Donald's love life.</i>

974
00:47:50,023 --> 00:47:52,010
I was offered the use
of his plane

975
00:47:52,012 --> 00:47:54,023
from West Palm Beach
to New York and back

976
00:47:54,025 --> 00:47:55,026
<i>on the weekends,</i>

977
00:47:56,012 --> 00:47:58,015
<i>comps at all the hotels,</i>
<i>you name it.</i>

978
00:47:58,017 --> 00:47:59,021
<i>Never took one of them.</i>

979
00:48:00,002 --> 00:48:02,020
Only thing I ever took from him
was a can of Diet Coke

980
00:48:02,022 --> 00:48:04,007
at a party at Mar-a-Lago.

981
00:48:11,015 --> 00:48:14,005
<i>I think that I probably</i>
<i>was being looked at</i>

982
00:48:14,007 --> 00:48:16,023
like a public-relations
operation...

983
00:48:17,013 --> 00:48:20,002
for him, you know,
just by manipulating

984
00:48:20,012 --> 00:48:22,003
<i>our interest in his celebrity.</i>

985
00:48:23,023 --> 00:48:26,018
<i>And it was the constant,</i>
<i>6:00 a.m. phone calls.</i>

986
00:48:27,007 --> 00:48:28,024
You know, I started feeling
very quickly

987
00:48:28,026 --> 00:48:30,004
that I'm working for this guy,

988
00:48:30,006 --> 00:48:31,022
but I'm not being paid
by this guy,

989
00:48:31,024 --> 00:48:33,009
<i>and I had to remind him</i>
<i>I don't work for him.</i>

990
00:48:34,014 --> 00:48:35,027
Trump married Marla,

991
00:48:36,003 --> 00:48:39,002
and the two <i>Enquirer</i><i>reporters</i>
were VIP invitees

992
00:48:39,004 --> 00:48:40,029
- at the wedding.
- (crowd cheering)

993
00:48:41,009 --> 00:48:43,011
- (indistinct chattering)
- I'm happy and excited,

994
00:48:43,013 --> 00:48:45,015
and it's the wedding
of the century. (laughs)

995
00:48:45,017 --> 00:48:47,018
- It'll be good.
- woman 1: Thank you, Robin.

996
00:48:48,002 --> 00:48:49,013
Simpson: Everybody
in the country

997
00:48:49,021 --> 00:48:51,014
believes that maybe
their relationship could work

998
00:48:51,016 --> 00:48:53,007
if this relationship
will work, you know,

999
00:48:53,009 --> 00:48:54,024
with all the things
that they've gone through,

1000
00:48:54,026 --> 00:48:56,002
and I think this will work.

1001
00:48:56,004 --> 00:48:57,021
- woman 1: Okay.
- I give it four months.

1002
00:48:57,023 --> 00:48:59,002
(woman laughing)

1003
00:48:59,008 --> 00:49:00,022
- man: Howard!
- (camera shutter clicking)

1004
00:49:00,024 --> 00:49:02,024
- (man indistinct chatter)
- woman 2: Donald!

1005
00:49:03,013 --> 00:49:07,024
(indistinct chattering)

1006
00:49:08,005 --> 00:49:09,017
(camera shutter clicking)

1007
00:49:13,014 --> 00:49:14,025
Haley: <i>I was there that night.</i>

1008
00:49:14,027 --> 00:49:16,020
<i>I was confronted</i>
<i>by Marla Maples,</i>

1009
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,028
<i>and she was telling me</i>
<i>that she had gone after Donald</i>

1010
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,000
<i>and got him,</i>
<i>and she was Mrs. Trump.</i>

1011
00:49:22,008 --> 00:49:23,027
I said, "Well, I can't argue
with any of that,"

1012
00:49:23,029 --> 00:49:26,004
but, you know, basically,
she disliked me greatly,

1013
00:49:26,014 --> 00:49:29,007
<i>because of a lot of the stuff</i>
<i>we revealed about her.</i>

1014
00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:34,011
But Trump never got upset.
Even when they were married,

1015
00:49:34,026 --> 00:49:36,018
as long as it wasn't about him,
he was okay.

1016
00:49:36,020 --> 00:49:38,028
<i>He would throw Marla</i>
<i>under the bus in a second</i>

1017
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,001
to not have
a bad publicity himself

1018
00:49:41,009 --> 00:49:43,011
- and did more than once.
- (indistinct chattering)

1019
00:49:43,013 --> 00:49:44,022
female reporter:
<i>The Donald-Marla affair</i>

1020
00:49:44,024 --> 00:49:46,017
<i>had everything money, power,</i>

1021
00:49:46,019 --> 00:49:49,024
<i>a blonde bombshell,</i>
<i>combined with catchy headlines</i>

1022
00:49:49,026 --> 00:49:51,002
<i>and family feud.</i>

1023
00:49:51,004 --> 00:49:52,005
woman: Are you two
back together?

1024
00:49:52,014 --> 00:49:54,015
Well, we are right now,
aren't we, hon?

1025
00:49:54,025 --> 00:49:56,010
- (laughs)
- Um... um...

1026
00:49:56,016 --> 00:49:58,024
Haley: <i>He was a guy</i>
<i>we wanted stories from.</i>

1027
00:49:58,026 --> 00:50:00,014
At the same time,
he was studying

1028
00:50:00,016 --> 00:50:04,016
how we took things,
put them into headlines,

1029
00:50:04,027 --> 00:50:07,029
and sold them to this
common-man audience.

1030
00:50:08,009 --> 00:50:10,027
He wanted to use us
as a microphone

1031
00:50:10,029 --> 00:50:12,027
to a different group of people.

1032
00:50:13,012 --> 00:50:16,012
Coz: <i>The American public starts</i>
<i>to become emotionally attached</i>

1033
00:50:16,014 --> 00:50:18,014
and wants to see
what's happening next

1034
00:50:18,016 --> 00:50:21,004
with this particular celebrity,
and he had crossed that line.

1035
00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:23,016
People now wanted to know
about Donald Trump.

1036
00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,020
Bernstein:
<i>We've always had in this county</i>

1037
00:50:32,022 --> 00:50:35,009
a kind of seamy underside
of the news business.

1038
00:50:35,011 --> 00:50:37,009
Tabloids. You know,
there's nothing new about it.

1039
00:50:37,011 --> 00:50:39,013
- man 1: Exactly.
- Bernstein: And our agenda

1040
00:50:39,015 --> 00:50:41,003
at newspapers and magazines

1041
00:50:41,005 --> 00:50:43,009
is increasingly
these guys' agenda.

1042
00:50:43,011 --> 00:50:44,025
Dunleavy:
But we all have the same boss.

1043
00:50:44,027 --> 00:50:48,004
It's the public,
and if we continue

1044
00:50:48,006 --> 00:50:50,028
this Columbia School
of Journalism rhetoric,

1045
00:50:51,011 --> 00:50:53,002
this rag rhetoric which says,

1046
00:50:53,013 --> 00:50:55,005
"People should... shouldn't be
reporting that.

1047
00:50:55,007 --> 00:50:57,019
They shouldn't be jamming
this down people's throats."

1048
00:50:57,021 --> 00:51:00,020
- My God, let the public decide.
- man 2: It's also very...

1049
00:51:00,022 --> 00:51:02,005
- Let the public decide!
- Walker: You're looking down

1050
00:51:02,007 --> 00:51:03,010
your nose at the public.

1051
00:51:03,023 --> 00:51:05,008
The public has a right to know
what it wants to know.

1052
00:51:05,010 --> 00:51:06,023
Now, now,
your point's well-taken, but...

1053
00:51:06,025 --> 00:51:08,015
We don't all have
to be porn publishers.

1054
00:51:08,017 --> 00:51:09,025
All right. But why...

1055
00:51:10,003 --> 00:51:12,001
No, I don't think that it's porn
to publish a story

1056
00:51:12,003 --> 00:51:13,015
- about Tonya Harding
- (all clamoring)

1057
00:51:13,017 --> 00:51:14,025
or Michael Jackson.

1058
00:51:14,027 --> 00:51:16,005
Whoever wants
to put that out there

1059
00:51:16,007 --> 00:51:17,024
to sell papers,
what's wrong with it?

1060
00:51:17,026 --> 00:51:20,024
Because if the lowest common
denominator

1061
00:51:20,026 --> 00:51:23,004
is gonna drive
the journalistic market,

1062
00:51:23,006 --> 00:51:24,024
- we're in big trouble.
- Connie Chung...

1063
00:51:24,026 --> 00:51:26,008
Rose: Let him finish.
I'll come back to you, Mike.

1064
00:51:26,018 --> 00:51:28,001
Bernstein: But let me finish.
Something has tipped.

1065
00:51:31,014 --> 00:51:33,002
Coz: <i>People come out</i>
<i>and criticize us.</i>

1066
00:51:33,004 --> 00:51:34,028
They call us lowlifes
of journalism,

1067
00:51:35,004 --> 00:51:37,017
give us obnoxious
anecdotal names.

1068
00:51:37,019 --> 00:51:39,026
We didn't care,
and I still don't care.

1069
00:51:40,004 --> 00:51:42,024
We were very good
at what we did.

1070
00:51:43,003 --> 00:51:45,026
Wallace: <i>Steve Coz has been</i>
<i>with the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>

1071
00:51:45,028 --> 00:51:47,012
<i>for 13 years now.</i>

1072
00:51:47,027 --> 00:51:49,010
<i>A little more than a month ago,</i>

1073
00:51:49,012 --> 00:51:51,019
<i>he was promoted</i>
<i>to executive editor.</i>

1074
00:51:52,009 --> 00:51:55,023
Virga: <i>When Steve took over</i>
<i>as editor in 1995,</i>

1075
00:51:55,025 --> 00:51:59,025
it was just new blood willing
to listen to new ideas.

1076
00:51:59,027 --> 00:52:01,005
Steve Coz brought

1077
00:52:01,014 --> 00:52:02,017
the <i>National Enquirer</i><i>out</i>
of the Stone Age.

1078
00:52:03,009 --> 00:52:05,017
<i>And he brought a lot</i>
<i>of credibility to the paper.</i>

1079
00:52:06,009 --> 00:52:08,006
He didn't look like
a scruffy, old guy

1080
00:52:08,008 --> 00:52:09,028
with a cigar hanging out
of his mouth.

1081
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,022
He was Ivy League, dresses
in his little polo shirts.

1082
00:52:12,028 --> 00:52:14,008
<i>He looks polished.</i>

1083
00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:15,027
You could have gone
to <i>Time</i><i>magazine</i>

1084
00:52:15,029 --> 00:52:17,015
and seen somebody
who looked just like Steve Coz.

1085
00:52:18,009 --> 00:52:19,012
Haley: <i>You know,</i>
<i>he went to Harvard,</i>

1086
00:52:19,014 --> 00:52:20,025
<i>but he wasn't that button-down.</i>

1087
00:52:21,005 --> 00:52:22,025
<i>He reminded me of, like,</i>

1088
00:52:23,001 --> 00:52:25,002
a guy who'd been
a part-time bartender

1089
00:52:25,004 --> 00:52:26,004
in Nantucket.

1090
00:52:26,013 --> 00:52:28,023
(chuckles) Old-timers
from the U.K.,

1091
00:52:29,005 --> 00:52:31,015
uh, yes,
I think we all grinned a bit.

1092
00:52:31,025 --> 00:52:35,003
We said, "My God, we're working
for a schoolboy now", you know?

1093
00:52:36,015 --> 00:52:38,004
Shipp: <i>The</i><i>Enquirer,</i>
<i>for the most part,</i>

1094
00:52:38,006 --> 00:52:40,028
<i>was all white people.</i>
<i>They had no minorities.</i>

1095
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,018
They were these old Brits
and old white guys

1096
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:49,015
who didn't see women
or minorities of any importance.

1097
00:52:49,021 --> 00:52:51,016
We had to go in
and fight our way.

1098
00:52:55,015 --> 00:52:56,026
<i>He encouraged diversity.</i>

1099
00:52:57,009 --> 00:52:59,015
<i>He encouraged</i>
<i>out-of-the-box thinking.</i>

1100
00:52:59,017 --> 00:53:01,003
<i>He was a person who knew</i>

1101
00:53:01,005 --> 00:53:04,022
that growth depended on...
coming of age.

1102
00:53:09,002 --> 00:53:12,006
I was brought in
to help visualize

1103
00:53:12,021 --> 00:53:14,027
what black readership
would like to see.

1104
00:53:17,020 --> 00:53:20,010
It opened up the playing field
of who we could go after.

1105
00:53:20,012 --> 00:53:22,003
It's not the just
the same people all the time.

1106
00:53:22,005 --> 00:53:24,000
- crowd: (cheering) Oh, yeah!
- Shipp: <i>And Oprah Winfrey</i>

1107
00:53:24,002 --> 00:53:25,007
<i>made the difference.</i>

1108
00:53:25,018 --> 00:53:27,028
<i>She went across all color lines.</i>

1109
00:53:28,008 --> 00:53:30,025
Women bought the <i>Enquirer</i><i>more</i>
than anybody,

1110
00:53:31,006 --> 00:53:32,028
and women loved Oprah.

1111
00:53:33,015 --> 00:53:37,025
<i>Oprah was on the cover, gosh,</i>
<i>at least once or twice a month.</i>

1112
00:53:38,026 --> 00:53:40,013
<i>Oprah sold a lot of papers.</i>

1113
00:53:41,018 --> 00:53:43,016
Whitney Houston sold a lot
of papers,

1114
00:53:43,028 --> 00:53:46,022
<i>not because of her talent</i>
<i>but because of her drug use.</i>

1115
00:53:47,002 --> 00:53:48,016
<i>She became front page.</i>

1116
00:53:50,015 --> 00:53:53,006
<i>Somebody like Michael Jackson</i>
<i>broke all stereotypes,</i>

1117
00:53:53,008 --> 00:53:56,023
<i>- all color lines, everything.</i>
- (crowd cheering)

1118
00:54:00,002 --> 00:54:01,016
Shipp: <i>Everybody loved Michael.</i>

1119
00:54:01,018 --> 00:54:03,022
<i>But we started hearing</i>
<i>a lot of stories.</i>

1120
00:54:04,008 --> 00:54:05,028
We have family members
that called,

1121
00:54:06,004 --> 00:54:07,015
close family members that called

1122
00:54:07,017 --> 00:54:09,014
and told us what was going on
with him.

1123
00:54:10,013 --> 00:54:14,014
<i>So we were able to bring in,</i>
<i>stories that nobody else had.</i>

1124
00:54:19,012 --> 00:54:21,012
Haberman: <i>I think the</i><i>Enquirer</i>
<i>has become an emblem</i>

1125
00:54:21,014 --> 00:54:23,000
and a symbol for some people

1126
00:54:23,002 --> 00:54:25,016
of a certain type of journalism
in this country.

1127
00:54:26,001 --> 00:54:27,026
I think it is important to note
the <i>National Enquirer</i>

1128
00:54:27,028 --> 00:54:31,009
has also gotten
some stories really right.

1129
00:54:31,018 --> 00:54:33,022
- (phone beeps)
- operator:

1130
00:54:33,024 --> 00:54:35,012
Brown:

1131
00:54:38,023 --> 00:54:39,026
operator:

1132
00:54:39,028 --> 00:54:42,018
Brown:

1133
00:54:43,025 --> 00:54:46,010
The newspapers used to say,
"Yeah. You get exclusives,

1134
00:54:46,012 --> 00:54:48,027
but if we were up against you,
face-to-face,

1135
00:54:48,029 --> 00:54:51,002
<i>mano a mano,</i><i>we would beat</i>
the hell out of you."

1136
00:54:51,012 --> 00:54:54,003
Well, okay.
O.J. Simpson was the test.

1137
00:54:54,009 --> 00:54:56,012
On 911 tapes just released
last night,

1138
00:54:56,014 --> 00:55:00,008
O.J. Simpson could be heard
screaming about a 1993 article

1139
00:55:00,010 --> 00:55:01,018
in the <i>National Enquirer.</i>

1140
00:55:01,020 --> 00:55:03,008
Simpson:

1141
00:55:07,019 --> 00:55:09,006
female reporter:
Enquirer <i>editors say,</i>

1142
00:55:09,008 --> 00:55:10,028
<i>they have been</i>
<i>following abuse allegations</i>

1143
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,014
<i>against the former</i>
<i>football superstar since 1989.</i>

1144
00:55:16,029 --> 00:55:18,014
Los Angeles police
have been talking

1145
00:55:18,016 --> 00:55:21,004
to former pro football star
O.J. Simpson today

1146
00:55:21,006 --> 00:55:22,018
after the death of his ex-wife

1147
00:55:22,020 --> 00:55:25,004
and a 26-year-old man
early this morning.

1148
00:55:25,026 --> 00:55:27,026
Coz: <i>When the Simpson</i>
<i>murders occurred,</i>

1149
00:55:28,005 --> 00:55:30,004
we knew this was
a seminal moment,

1150
00:55:30,010 --> 00:55:32,000
uh, for the <i>National</i>
<i>Enquirer.</i>

1151
00:55:32,019 --> 00:55:34,016
<i>We already had huge networks</i>
<i>in place</i>

1152
00:55:34,018 --> 00:55:36,000
<i>in the celebrity community,</i>

1153
00:55:36,009 --> 00:55:38,019
<i>and this occurred in the middle</i>
<i>of one of our networks,</i>

1154
00:55:38,021 --> 00:55:42,011
so, we immediately put
every last resource into it.

1155
00:55:42,017 --> 00:55:45,000
While the <i>Los Angeles Times</i>
has four reporters working

1156
00:55:45,002 --> 00:55:46,015
on the O.J. Simpson story,

1157
00:55:46,022 --> 00:55:49,005
the <i>National Enquirer</i>
has a team of more than 20.

1158
00:55:50,001 --> 00:55:51,012
Coz:
<i>We were at the crime scene</i>

1159
00:55:51,014 --> 00:55:53,006
<i>before the coroner</i>
<i>arrived there.</i>

1160
00:55:53,026 --> 00:55:56,003
<i>We brought in freelancers.</i>
<i>We went</i>

1161
00:55:56,005 --> 00:55:58,018
<i>to every single photographer</i>
<i>we knew in L.A.</i>

1162
00:55:58,020 --> 00:56:00,015
and told them
that we would pay them

1163
00:56:00,017 --> 00:56:01,022
any amount of money

1164
00:56:02,002 --> 00:56:03,029
for any photographs
they thought were relevant.

1165
00:56:04,029 --> 00:56:08,004
George: <i>We spent easily</i>
<i>over a million dollars in soure</i>

1166
00:56:08,006 --> 00:56:09,012
<i>and photographic money.</i>

1167
00:56:10,002 --> 00:56:14,013
The <i>Enquirer's</i><i>tentacles</i>
were amazing in those days.

1168
00:56:14,022 --> 00:56:16,005
From Florida all the way
to L.A.,

1169
00:56:16,007 --> 00:56:18,005
we were all involved
in that story.

1170
00:56:18,016 --> 00:56:20,004
male reporter:
<i>Homicide detectives expanded</i>

1171
00:56:20,006 --> 00:56:22,013
<i>the restricted area</i>
<i>around Nicole Simpson's</i>

1172
00:56:22,015 --> 00:56:23,023
<i>townhouse today.</i>

1173
00:56:24,008 --> 00:56:27,009
<i>Nicole's father, Louis, and one</i>
<i>of her sisters also arrived</i>

1174
00:56:27,011 --> 00:56:29,010
<i>and removed</i>
<i>some personal belongings.</i>

1175
00:56:29,017 --> 00:56:33,003
We had a reporter
who was in really tight

1176
00:56:33,012 --> 00:56:34,017
<i>with Nicole's family.</i>

1177
00:56:34,028 --> 00:56:37,001
<i>He was dating</i>
<i>both the daughters.</i>

1178
00:56:37,018 --> 00:56:38,027
Haley: <i>We had other people</i>

1179
00:56:39,007 --> 00:56:40,029
<i>who had contacts</i>
<i>with the Goldman family,</i>

1180
00:56:41,001 --> 00:56:44,014
<i>including Ron Goldman's mother</i>
<i>who lived in St. Louis.</i>

1181
00:56:44,016 --> 00:56:45,024
Coz: <i>We also had a network</i>

1182
00:56:46,002 --> 00:56:48,007
<i>into some of O.J. Simpson's</i>
<i>fellow athletes</i>

1183
00:56:48,014 --> 00:56:51,011
<i>and, don't forget,</i>
<i>O.J. Simpson's friends.</i>

1184
00:56:51,013 --> 00:56:53,007
<i>We had</i>
<i>a very good working relationshp</i>

1185
00:56:53,009 --> 00:56:54,018
<i>with the police.</i>

1186
00:56:54,024 --> 00:56:56,011
<i>We had moles</i>
<i>in the prosecutor's office,</i>

1187
00:56:56,013 --> 00:56:58,006
<i>and we had jailhouse sources,</i>
<i>as well.</i>

1188
00:56:58,012 --> 00:57:00,000
Calder:
<i>We knew what he was saying.</i>

1189
00:57:00,002 --> 00:57:01,006
<i>We knew where he went</i>
<i>to the bathroom.</i>

1190
00:57:01,018 --> 00:57:03,007
I mean, we had everything.

1191
00:57:03,009 --> 00:57:07,002
We had it totally wired
from beginning to end,

1192
00:57:07,011 --> 00:57:08,013
and it sold.

1193
00:57:08,022 --> 00:57:11,001
Everyone in the country
was riveted by this.

1194
00:57:11,003 --> 00:57:12,025
Now the <i>National Enquirer</i>
is competing

1195
00:57:12,027 --> 00:57:15,011
with the mainstream press,
often beating rivals

1196
00:57:15,013 --> 00:57:17,017
to the punch
on big headline stories.

1197
00:57:17,019 --> 00:57:18,029
male news reporter:
<i>A lot of the details,</i>

1198
00:57:19,009 --> 00:57:21,028
uh, that have later turned up,
uh, in <i>Newsweek</i>

1199
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,016
or on other television shows

1200
00:57:23,018 --> 00:57:25,008
<i>have first been reported</i>
<i>in the</i><i>Enquirer.</i>

1201
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,010
George: Our stories showed
more details on that crime

1202
00:57:31,017 --> 00:57:33,000
than any other publication.

1203
00:57:33,010 --> 00:57:36,007
We were constantly on it.
It was like a soap opera.

1204
00:57:36,009 --> 00:57:38,021
You just stay on them,
and anything you heard today,

1205
00:57:38,023 --> 00:57:40,005
<i>"What's going on with him now?"</i>

1206
00:57:40,014 --> 00:57:42,006
Haberman: <i>It was a story</i>
<i>that riveted the nation.</i>

1207
00:57:42,008 --> 00:57:45,028
<i>It was one of the first</i>
<i>cable-news national melodramas,</i>

1208
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,007
so people were glued
to their television sets,

1209
00:57:48,009 --> 00:57:49,023
and the <i>National Enquirer,</i>
essentially,

1210
00:57:49,025 --> 00:57:51,024
was a paper version of a T.V.

1211
00:57:51,026 --> 00:57:53,009
People had to follow them.

1212
00:57:53,011 --> 00:57:55,008
It was impossible
to ignore them.

1213
00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:57,018
Tesh: <i>The</i><i>Enquirer's Coz says,</i>
<i>not only do readers love</i>

1214
00:57:57,020 --> 00:58:00,004
<i>their O.J. articles,</i>
<i>but their commitment to coverae</i>

1215
00:58:00,006 --> 00:58:01,013
<i>has brought new respect.</i>

1216
00:58:01,019 --> 00:58:04,008
This is a fascinating,
interesting story.

1217
00:58:04,018 --> 00:58:06,002
The conventional press

1218
00:58:06,004 --> 00:58:08,021
is basically come
into the tabloid territory,

1219
00:58:09,004 --> 00:58:11,013
and, uh, they've come
to appreciate us.

1220
00:58:14,001 --> 00:58:17,009
(camera shutter clicking)

1221
00:58:17,019 --> 00:58:19,023
Simpson:
<i>The Bruno Magli makes shoes</i>

1222
00:58:20,025 --> 00:58:22,013
<i>that looked the shoe</i>
<i>that they had in court</i>

1223
00:58:22,015 --> 00:58:24,000
<i>that's involved in this case.</i>

1224
00:58:24,019 --> 00:58:26,022
I would have never worn
those ugly-ass shoes.

1225
00:58:30,009 --> 00:58:33,009
<i>Enquirer</i><i>reporters</i>
were digging out material

1226
00:58:33,011 --> 00:58:36,001
that the establishment press
had missed.

1227
00:58:36,026 --> 00:58:38,009
Haberman:
<i>There was a key moment</i>

1228
00:58:38,011 --> 00:58:40,013
<i>where evidence</i>
<i>and the existence of it</i>

1229
00:58:40,015 --> 00:58:42,017
<i>was broken</i>
<i>by the</i><i>National Enquirer.</i>

1230
00:58:43,010 --> 00:58:46,024
It had to be followed by most
of the major publications

1231
00:58:46,026 --> 00:58:48,000
in the country.

1232
00:58:48,015 --> 00:58:50,016
Haley: <i>A kid from Boulder</i>
<i>sends me this Polaroid picture</i>

1233
00:58:50,026 --> 00:58:53,029
<i>of this washed-out,</i>
<i>chain-link fence</i>

1234
00:58:54,007 --> 00:58:56,002
and this tiny,
little stick figure

1235
00:58:56,004 --> 00:58:57,003
way in the back,

1236
00:58:57,017 --> 00:58:59,010
and he says,
"Maybe you can blow this up

1237
00:58:59,012 --> 00:59:02,011
and see if O.J.'s wearing
the murder shoes,"

1238
00:59:02,018 --> 00:59:05,020
something that the investigators
during the murder trial

1239
00:59:05,022 --> 00:59:06,025
had not done.

1240
00:59:07,003 --> 00:59:11,006
Finding the Bruno Magli shoes
on O.J.'s feet

1241
00:59:11,016 --> 00:59:12,023
was a mission,

1242
00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:15,024
and every single person
in the newsroom

1243
00:59:15,026 --> 00:59:17,015
<i>was involved in that</i>
<i>to some degree.</i>

1244
00:59:17,025 --> 00:59:20,011
Coz: <i>O.J. said, "I never wore</i>
<i>those ugly-ass things."</i>

1245
00:59:20,022 --> 00:59:24,004
So we spent three months
and tens of thousands of dollars

1246
00:59:24,006 --> 00:59:26,012
hiring every sports photographer
we could

1247
00:59:26,018 --> 00:59:29,008
<i>to go look through</i>
<i>their old negatives.</i>

1248
00:59:30,007 --> 00:59:33,011
Virga: <i>Every photographer</i>
<i>who shot every NFL game</i>

1249
00:59:33,013 --> 00:59:37,020
<i>that O.J. had been at,</i>
<i>we called one by one,</i>

1250
00:59:37,022 --> 00:59:40,024
<i>slowly but surely, all of them</i>
<i>and asked them to look.</i>

1251
00:59:43,013 --> 00:59:45,003
Larry Haley found the guy.

1252
00:59:45,012 --> 00:59:47,019
About a thousand cops
were trying to link

1253
00:59:47,021 --> 00:59:49,011
the shoes with O.J. Simpson.

1254
00:59:49,013 --> 00:59:50,019
Mainly, they were trying
to do it

1255
00:59:50,021 --> 00:59:52,008
through finding a purchase.

1256
00:59:52,024 --> 00:59:54,012
<i>They were right there</i>
<i>in Buffalo.</i>

1257
00:59:55,008 --> 00:59:56,029
<i>And there wasn't</i>
<i>just one of them.</i>

1258
00:59:58,008 --> 01:00:00,010
<i>There was a whole frame</i>
<i>of O.J. Simpson</i>

1259
01:00:00,012 --> 01:00:03,010
<i>walking on the sidelines</i>
<i>where you can see that sole</i>

1260
01:00:03,012 --> 01:00:05,007
<i>that left the footprints</i>
<i>in blood</i>

1261
01:00:05,009 --> 01:00:09,014
<i>around Nicole Brown's head,</i>
<i>right there on that picture.</i>

1262
01:00:10,009 --> 01:00:12,028
Virga: <i>It was... it was</i>
<i>like finding the Holy Grail.</i>

1263
01:00:14,003 --> 01:00:15,009
It was so exciting.

1264
01:00:15,019 --> 01:00:17,012
It was like we really did
something now

1265
01:00:17,014 --> 01:00:18,018
<i>that made a difference.</i>

1266
01:00:18,025 --> 01:00:20,018
Haley:
<i>O.J. Simpson and his attorneys,</i>

1267
01:00:20,020 --> 01:00:23,008
<i>when we ran that, were saying</i>
<i>that we made this up,</i>

1268
01:00:23,010 --> 01:00:25,020
that we put the shoes
on his feet, right?

1269
01:00:26,003 --> 01:00:30,001
Three other photographers
had pictures from the same game

1270
01:00:30,003 --> 01:00:31,025
<i>of O.J. wearing the same shoes.</i>

1271
01:00:32,008 --> 01:00:34,021
Haley: <i>We also</i>
<i>had 33 other pictures taken</i>

1272
01:00:34,023 --> 01:00:37,019
in two different locations,
one in Pittsburgh

1273
01:00:37,021 --> 01:00:39,026
<i>where he was getting</i>
<i>his shoes shined,</i>

1274
01:00:40,014 --> 01:00:42,010
<i>after a sideline commentary</i>

1275
01:00:42,024 --> 01:00:46,002
in the basement of the hotel
across from the stadium.

1276
01:00:46,004 --> 01:00:47,023
That image was used

1277
01:00:47,025 --> 01:00:51,004
as the major evidence
against O.J. Simpson.

1278
01:00:53,006 --> 01:00:56,016
Coz: <i>It won the Goldman family</i>
<i>and Nicole's family...</i>

1279
01:00:56,018 --> 01:00:58,025
<i>- the civil trial</i>
- (crowd cheering)

1280
01:00:59,010 --> 01:01:01,026
Coz: <i>...because O.J.</i>
<i>was found guilty based upon</i>

1281
01:01:01,028 --> 01:01:04,013
<i>that photo of him</i>
<i>in the Bruno Magli shoes.</i>

1282
01:01:04,019 --> 01:01:07,018
(cheering continues)

1283
01:01:13,017 --> 01:01:17,003
Those ugly-ass shoes changed
the <i>Enquirer</i><i>immensely,</i>

1284
01:01:17,005 --> 01:01:21,005
because that's one of the times
that the mainstream media

1285
01:01:21,007 --> 01:01:23,024
had to give us credit,
because they were there.

1286
01:01:24,017 --> 01:01:26,004
You know, if you just
kept plugging away,

1287
01:01:26,006 --> 01:01:28,010
if you kept digging,
you would have found them, too.

1288
01:01:28,017 --> 01:01:31,016
The mainstream guys
suddenly said, "Uh-oh.

1289
01:01:32,001 --> 01:01:34,011
We wish they'd stayed
with UFOs."

1290
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,027
The establishment press
finally had to admit

1291
01:01:40,006 --> 01:01:43,026
that they were being beaten
by a sleazy supermarket tabloid.

1292
01:01:44,025 --> 01:01:47,018
Any newspaper in America
would like <i>The New York Times</i>

1293
01:01:47,020 --> 01:01:51,018
to call them the bible
of a major story like this.

1294
01:01:51,027 --> 01:01:52,028
King: <i>Why, um...</i>

1295
01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:56,009
Walter, did you put Steve Coz
and the...

1296
01:01:56,011 --> 01:01:57,025
<i>and the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>

1297
01:01:57,027 --> 01:02:00,018
<i>among the 25 most</i>
<i>influential figures</i>

1298
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:01,027
<i>in this country?</i>

1299
01:02:02,008 --> 01:02:04,018
Uh, the <i>Enquirer</i><i>has broken</i>
a lot of stories.

1300
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:06,003
They've changed a lot
of the ways

1301
01:02:06,005 --> 01:02:07,024
they do their reporting
and their fact-checking.

1302
01:02:07,026 --> 01:02:09,010
They've become more respectable,

1303
01:02:09,012 --> 01:02:10,028
and I think
it began to seep in,

1304
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,019
for better and worse,
into the mainstream press,

1305
01:02:13,021 --> 01:02:15,002
what the tabloids do.

1306
01:02:15,012 --> 01:02:16,015
So, it...

1307
01:02:16,017 --> 01:02:17,023
it could have been
for worse, too.

1308
01:02:18,009 --> 01:02:19,017
- Oh...
- You could be influential

1309
01:02:19,019 --> 01:02:20,026
for worse.

1310
01:02:20,028 --> 01:02:22,019
male reporter:
<i>The line between tabloid</i>

1311
01:02:22,021 --> 01:02:24,028
<i>and mainstream journalism</i>
<i>has become blurred.</i>

1312
01:02:26,019 --> 01:02:28,025
You know, everyone talks
about the mainstream press

1313
01:02:28,027 --> 01:02:30,020
versus the <i>National Enquirer,</i>
but you remember,

1314
01:02:30,022 --> 01:02:32,015
the <i>National Enquirer</i>
is the best-selling weekly

1315
01:02:32,017 --> 01:02:35,000
in America,
so who's defining mainstream?

1316
01:02:35,002 --> 01:02:36,025
O.J. Simpson caused the wheels

1317
01:02:36,027 --> 01:02:38,016
of traditional journalism
to fall off.

1318
01:02:38,018 --> 01:02:42,005
That... that's the moment
when traditional journalism

1319
01:02:42,007 --> 01:02:45,029
begins this fast slide
into tabloidism.

1320
01:02:47,026 --> 01:02:50,017
Princess Diana: As a parent,
I want to protect children,

1321
01:02:50,024 --> 01:02:53,014
because I brought the children
out here for a holiday,

1322
01:02:54,009 --> 01:02:55,027
Princess Diana:
...and we'd really appreciate

1323
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:57,013
- the space.
- man: I understand that.

1324
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,028
Princess Diana: We've had
15 cameras following us today.

1325
01:03:07,002 --> 01:03:09,019
Coz: The <i>National Enquirer</i>
was on this incredible roll.

1326
01:03:10,003 --> 01:03:14,022
We had O.J. Simpson,
the JonBenet story, Cosby.

1327
01:03:15,003 --> 01:03:16,025
<i>We had all these great stories.</i>

1328
01:03:18,004 --> 01:03:20,020
And then in 1997,

1329
01:03:20,028 --> 01:03:24,012
uh, we have a cover out
on the stands which says,

1330
01:03:24,014 --> 01:03:26,024
<i>"Sex-mad Di,</i>
<i>'I can't get enough.'"</i>

1331
01:03:30,005 --> 01:03:31,018
Virga: <i>We didn't have</i>
<i>the first pictures</i>

1332
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:34,006
of she and Dodi together.
on the boat.

1333
01:03:34,016 --> 01:03:36,008
Um, another paper
had gotten those,

1334
01:03:36,010 --> 01:03:38,002
so, we bought
the second set of pictures

1335
01:03:38,004 --> 01:03:41,013
<i>of she and Dodi on the boat,</i>
<i>and published them.</i>

1336
01:03:41,015 --> 01:03:44,020
Probably biggest mistake
we ever made unknowingly.

1337
01:03:45,001 --> 01:03:46,008
We closed on a Friday night,

1338
01:03:46,014 --> 01:03:48,029
and we ran it pretty small
on the side...

1339
01:03:50,008 --> 01:03:52,008
<i>and that paper went to press.</i>

1340
01:04:00,001 --> 01:04:03,006
And Di died that night
in the car crash.

1341
01:04:03,015 --> 01:04:05,008
man: <i>The car was traveling</i>
<i>extremely fast</i>

1342
01:04:05,010 --> 01:04:08,015
<i>in an attempt to escape</i>
<i>the attentions of the paparazz,</i>

1343
01:04:08,017 --> 01:04:10,024
<i>who were on motorcycles</i>
<i>or scooters,</i>

1344
01:04:10,026 --> 01:04:12,027
<i>uh, for reasons</i>
<i>we don't yet know.</i>

1345
01:04:12,029 --> 01:04:14,019
male news reporter: <i>The accident</i>
<i>happened late at night</i>

1346
01:04:14,021 --> 01:04:16,011
<i>in a road tunnel in Paris.</i>

1347
01:04:16,029 --> 01:04:18,015
<i>An unconfirmed...</i>

1348
01:04:19,009 --> 01:04:21,027
uh, source
from the Press Association

1349
01:04:22,005 --> 01:04:25,015
is that Diana,
Princess of Wales, has died.

1350
01:04:27,015 --> 01:04:30,010
Virga: <i>Steve was</i>
<i>immediately called by CNN,</i>

1351
01:04:30,012 --> 01:04:32,005
<i>and all this,</i>
<i>everybody wanted to comment</i>

1352
01:04:32,007 --> 01:04:34,013
because they were all saying
the paparazzi were chasing them.

1353
01:04:47,027 --> 01:04:49,021
Virga: <i>But because</i>
<i>of that headline on the cover,</i>

1354
01:04:49,027 --> 01:04:51,018
the <i>Enquirer</i><i>was pulled</i>

1355
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,005
<i>from every newsstand in America.</i>

1356
01:04:56,001 --> 01:04:59,001
The <i>Enquirer</i><i>headquarters</i>
in Lantana

1357
01:04:59,011 --> 01:05:01,020
was besieged by crowds

1358
01:05:01,022 --> 01:05:05,028
<i>and crowds of people accusing s</i>
<i>of killing Princess Diana.</i>

1359
01:05:06,004 --> 01:05:09,018
(indistinct chatter)

1360
01:05:09,027 --> 01:05:11,010
<i>The real cause of her death</i>

1361
01:05:11,012 --> 01:05:13,027
was the drunken driver
of her limousine,

1362
01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:17,021
but it was enough
to get everyone believing

1363
01:05:17,027 --> 01:05:19,024
that it was
the <i>National Enquirer's</i><i>fault,</i>

1364
01:05:19,026 --> 01:05:21,012
and we lost circulation.

1365
01:05:22,002 --> 01:05:23,029
Spencer: <i>This is not a time</i>
<i>for recriminations</i>

1366
01:05:24,001 --> 01:05:25,003
<i>but for sadness.</i>

1367
01:05:25,014 --> 01:05:27,015
However, I would say
that I always believed

1368
01:05:27,017 --> 01:05:29,012
the press would kill her
in the end...

1369
01:05:29,023 --> 01:05:31,017
but not even I could imagine
that they would take

1370
01:05:31,019 --> 01:05:34,029
such a direct hand in her death,
as seems to be the case.

1371
01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:38,003
<i>It would appear</i>
<i>that every proprietor and editr</i>

1372
01:05:38,009 --> 01:05:40,026
<i>of every publication</i>
<i>that has paid for intrusive</i>

1373
01:05:40,028 --> 01:05:42,029
<i>and exploitative photographs</i>
<i>of her,</i>

1374
01:05:43,005 --> 01:05:45,018
<i>encouraging greedy</i>
<i>and ruthless individuals</i>

1375
01:05:45,020 --> 01:05:48,013
<i>to risk everything in pursuit</i>
<i>of Diana's image,</i>

1376
01:05:48,019 --> 01:05:50,014
<i>has blood on his hands today.</i>

1377
01:06:01,008 --> 01:06:03,006
(indistinct chatter)

1378
01:06:03,008 --> 01:06:04,021
Clooney: <i>Princess Di is dead,</i>

1379
01:06:04,023 --> 01:06:06,018
<i>and who should we see</i>
<i>about that?</i>

1380
01:06:08,014 --> 01:06:12,008
The driver of the car,
the paparazzi, or the magazines

1381
01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:14,001
and papers
who purchase these pictures

1382
01:06:14,003 --> 01:06:16,013
and make bounty hunters
out of photographers?

1383
01:06:16,025 --> 01:06:18,018
Then it got very personal.

1384
01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:21,008
A-listers, like George Clooney
for example,

1385
01:06:21,010 --> 01:06:24,001
and others pointing fingers
and saying,

1386
01:06:24,003 --> 01:06:26,006
"Steve Coz, you have blood
on your hands.

1387
01:06:26,008 --> 01:06:28,029
You're a murderer.
You killed the Princess."

1388
01:06:29,006 --> 01:06:31,026
And as for you, Mr. Coz,
and your colleagues,

1389
01:06:32,005 --> 01:06:36,006
the Princess of Wales is dead,
and you have gone on television,

1390
01:06:36,008 --> 01:06:39,025
and you have washed your hands,
and you have placed blame,

1391
01:06:40,003 --> 01:06:41,027
and you
have deflected responsibility,

1392
01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:44,008
and yet I wonder
how you sleep at night.

1393
01:06:44,016 --> 01:06:47,007
You should be ashamed.
Thank you.

1394
01:06:47,026 --> 01:06:49,014
woman: Mr. Clooney,
will there be questions?

1395
01:06:49,016 --> 01:06:51,005
I'm not going to, thank you.

1396
01:06:53,016 --> 01:06:56,028
To blame one institution,
i.e. the <i>National Enquirer,</i>

1397
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,027
for the paparazzis
on the planet is ridiculous.

1398
01:06:59,029 --> 01:07:02,026
The paparazzi started
and existed

1399
01:07:03,010 --> 01:07:05,010
before the <i>National Enquirer</i>
existed.

1400
01:07:05,019 --> 01:07:07,015
- (indistinct chatter)
- Coz: <i>The thirst...</i>

1401
01:07:07,027 --> 01:07:09,028
<i>for private knowledge</i>
<i>about the celebrities</i>

1402
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,024
<i>is what fuels the paparazzi.</i>

1403
01:07:11,026 --> 01:07:13,020
- woman: Oh, my God.
- (crowd cheering)

1404
01:07:13,022 --> 01:07:14,028
We were, you know,

1405
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,007
award-winning journalism
for four years,

1406
01:07:17,009 --> 01:07:20,005
and now suddenly we were blamed
for Princess Di's death,

1407
01:07:20,007 --> 01:07:22,001
and I personally was blamed.

1408
01:07:34,015 --> 01:07:38,006
The <i>National Enquirer</i>
and their ilk believe

1409
01:07:38,008 --> 01:07:41,013
they have a right
to intrude on your privacy,

1410
01:07:41,015 --> 01:07:44,007
and to make
your private life public.

1411
01:07:44,015 --> 01:07:46,023
Does it sell newspapers?
Does it sell magazines?

1412
01:07:46,025 --> 01:07:48,002
Of course it does,

1413
01:07:48,010 --> 01:07:50,022
but what are we doing
to ourselves with that...

1414
01:07:51,012 --> 01:07:53,011
<i>and what are we doing</i>
<i>to these people?</i>

1415
01:08:02,018 --> 01:08:05,010
Wallace: <i>Because they are</i>
<i>the</i><i>National Enquirer,</i>

1416
01:08:05,012 --> 01:08:08,022
<i>they flirt constantly</i>
<i>with the danger of libel suits.</i>

1417
01:08:08,024 --> 01:08:11,027
<i>Several times a day,</i>
<i>Executive Editor, Steve Coz</i>

1418
01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:14,001
<i>consults</i>
<i>with the paper's lawyer,</i>

1419
01:08:14,003 --> 01:08:16,005
<i>a man by the name</i>
<i>of David Kendall,</i>

1420
01:08:16,007 --> 01:08:20,007
<i>who also represents the</i>
<i>President of the United States.</i>

1421
01:08:20,016 --> 01:08:25,000
- (indistinct chatter)
- man: Yeah!

1422
01:08:37,019 --> 01:08:40,008
We break stories.
We go after news-makers.

1423
01:08:40,010 --> 01:08:43,021
We don't care if they're
politicians or celebrities.

1424
01:08:43,023 --> 01:08:46,006
We cover newsmakers
that we think Americans

1425
01:08:46,008 --> 01:08:47,015
want to read about.

1426
01:08:53,017 --> 01:08:55,003
female reporter:
<i>When are the reports</i>

1427
01:08:55,005 --> 01:08:57,007
<i>about an official's</i>
<i>personal life valid,</i>

1428
01:08:57,009 --> 01:08:58,019
and what is the impact

1429
01:08:58,021 --> 01:08:59,029
- <i>on the public?</i>
- (indistinct chatter)

1430
01:09:00,001 --> 01:09:01,011
woman:
What did I say to you guys?

1431
01:09:01,013 --> 01:09:02,028
<i>We're not coming back.</i>
<i>Move back.</i>

1432
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,018
male reporter 1:
<i>Have the media gone nuts</i>

1433
01:09:04,024 --> 01:09:06,013
<i>in covering this story,</i>
<i>or is this one of those cases</i>

1434
01:09:06,015 --> 01:09:08,011
<i>where there is no such thing</i>
<i>as too much?</i>

1435
01:09:08,013 --> 01:09:10,015
(indistinct chatter)

1436
01:09:11,004 --> 01:09:12,027
male reporter 2:
<i>The</i><i>Enquirer</i><i>getting the scoop</i>

1437
01:09:12,029 --> 01:09:15,018
<i>just weeks after rocking</i>
<i>the establishment press</i>

1438
01:09:15,020 --> 01:09:17,021
<i>by breaking the story</i>
<i>of what it called,</i>

1439
01:09:17,023 --> 01:09:19,023
<i>"Jesse Jackson's Love Child."</i>

1440
01:09:21,018 --> 01:09:24,016
We didn't go after them.
We didn't promote them.

1441
01:09:24,018 --> 01:09:26,002
We didn't stand up for them.

1442
01:09:26,004 --> 01:09:27,018
We didn't say,
"Oh, vote for this guy,"

1443
01:09:27,020 --> 01:09:29,012
or, "He's a good guy,"
or, "He's a bad guy."

1444
01:09:29,014 --> 01:09:31,005
<i>They went out,</i>
<i>and they did things</i>

1445
01:09:31,007 --> 01:09:32,019
<i>like cheat on their wife</i>

1446
01:09:32,025 --> 01:09:35,019
<i>and have affairs</i>
<i>with interns or whatever.</i>

1447
01:09:35,021 --> 01:09:37,025
And that's something
that we reacted to,

1448
01:09:38,004 --> 01:09:40,003
'cause that's something
people wanted to read.

1449
01:09:40,005 --> 01:09:41,012
(indistinct chatter)

1450
01:09:41,025 --> 01:09:43,020
<i>We didn't say, "Oh, he's</i>
<i>a Democrat. He's a Republican.</i>

1451
01:09:43,022 --> 01:09:45,007
<i>We're not gonna get this one.</i>
<i>We'll leave him alone."</i>

1452
01:09:45,021 --> 01:09:48,016
Believe me, if we
had had George Bush doing blow,

1453
01:09:48,022 --> 01:09:50,001
we would've done it.

1454
01:09:51,006 --> 01:09:53,024
That changed
when management changed.

1455
01:09:54,009 --> 01:09:57,001
<i>That changed</i>
<i>when David Pecker took over.</i>

1456
01:09:58,024 --> 01:10:00,027
male reporter: <i>Two of</i>
<i>the nation's liveliest tabloid,</i>

1457
01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:03,005
<i>the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>
<i>and the</i><i>Star,</i>

1458
01:10:03,007 --> 01:10:05,010
<i>are being taken</i>
<i>over by new owners</i>

1459
01:10:05,012 --> 01:10:07,014
<i>who want to extend</i>
<i>the well-known titles</i>

1460
01:10:07,016 --> 01:10:09,007
<i>beyond the supermarket.</i>

1461
01:10:10,002 --> 01:10:12,004
The first time
I encountered David Pecker

1462
01:10:12,006 --> 01:10:16,004
was when he arose to the head
of a French media company

1463
01:10:16,006 --> 01:10:18,000
<i>called</i><i>Hachette Filipacchi.</i>

1464
01:10:18,002 --> 01:10:21,004
<i>At that time, they had</i><i>Car</i>
and Driver <i>and</i><i>Woman's Day.</i>

1465
01:10:21,006 --> 01:10:24,016
His most famous magazine
was when he backed JFK Jr.

1466
01:10:24,018 --> 01:10:26,020
<i>- in</i><i>George</i><i>magazine.</i>
- (crowd applauding, cheering)

1467
01:10:26,022 --> 01:10:29,005
<i>George</i><i>is a magazine</i>
that understands

1468
01:10:29,007 --> 01:10:32,002
that culture is more powerful
than politics.

1469
01:10:32,011 --> 01:10:34,020
The traditional lines
between Democrats

1470
01:10:34,022 --> 01:10:36,018
and Republicans
are disappearing.

1471
01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:38,017
The magazine they'll turn to

1472
01:10:38,019 --> 01:10:41,029
for a fresh,
non-partisan perspective

1473
01:10:42,001 --> 01:10:43,008
<i>will be</i><i>George.</i>

1474
01:10:44,003 --> 01:10:47,001
Kelly: <i>David Pecker insisted</i>
<i>that he had to have pictures</i>

1475
01:10:47,003 --> 01:10:49,012
<i>of himself in with JFK Jr.</i>

1476
01:10:50,002 --> 01:10:52,016
He definitely knew he
was latching onto something

1477
01:10:52,018 --> 01:10:53,026
bigger than himself then.

1478
01:10:54,008 --> 01:10:58,010
Brenna: <i>Pecker's a man who want</i>
<i>to drive around in limousines,</i>

1479
01:10:58,012 --> 01:11:00,011
wants to belong
to the best clubs,

1480
01:11:00,013 --> 01:11:03,027
and wants to be known
as a celebrity himself.

1481
01:11:05,013 --> 01:11:07,017
Kelly: <i>David Pecker</i>
<i>was not a journalist.</i>

1482
01:11:07,027 --> 01:11:11,005
He was brought into media
because of his financial acumen.

1483
01:11:11,013 --> 01:11:12,025
People would call him
a bean counter,

1484
01:11:12,027 --> 01:11:15,010
for want of a better word,
a financial guy.

1485
01:11:16,014 --> 01:11:20,008
<i>In the cultured, highbrow world</i>
<i>of media moguls...</i>

1486
01:11:20,017 --> 01:11:23,000
he was seen
as more of a scrappy,

1487
01:11:23,002 --> 01:11:24,027
"born in the Bronx" kind of guy.

1488
01:11:25,004 --> 01:11:26,028
I...
I think he probably always felt

1489
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,027
something of an outsider
because of that.

1490
01:11:28,029 --> 01:11:31,019
<i>He always wanted to be</i>
<i>a little grander than he was.</i>

1491
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,026
Auletta: <i>He is a short guy</i>
<i>who wanted to be taller,</i>

1492
01:11:34,028 --> 01:11:36,008
and one
of the ways you get taller

1493
01:11:36,010 --> 01:11:39,002
is by being a friend
of powerful people

1494
01:11:39,004 --> 01:11:44,005
and doing them favors,
or you do it by savaging people

1495
01:11:44,007 --> 01:11:47,000
and making people fear you,
and he's done both.

1496
01:11:47,020 --> 01:11:50,028
David Pecker had designs
on this machine called

1497
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,009
the <i>National Enquirer</i><i>early on.</i>

1498
01:11:53,019 --> 01:11:55,024
<i>He bought the paper in 1999,</i>

1499
01:11:55,026 --> 01:12:00,003
and the plan was
to create a media company

1500
01:12:00,005 --> 01:12:01,009
to rival <i>Time...</i>

1501
01:12:01,025 --> 01:12:05,017
<i>something to be at the forefrot</i>
<i>of mass media in America.</i>

1502
01:12:05,019 --> 01:12:08,009
That was his goal, and he stated
it right out of the gate.

1503
01:12:08,021 --> 01:12:12,009
Coz: <i>He wants to go</i>
<i>to an advertising-driven vehice</i>

1504
01:12:12,011 --> 01:12:15,024
and polish up the tabloids,
make them slicker,

1505
01:12:15,026 --> 01:12:17,020
make them more New York.

1506
01:12:18,001 --> 01:12:22,027
He wanted to sort of drag
this tabloid empire upscale.

1507
01:12:23,004 --> 01:12:25,024
Well, people aren't buying
the <i>National Enquirer</i>

1508
01:12:25,026 --> 01:12:27,000
to be upscale.

1509
01:12:27,006 --> 01:12:29,014
<i>The whole idea was a bad idea.</i>

1510
01:12:29,025 --> 01:12:32,017
He really never wanted to learn

1511
01:12:32,024 --> 01:12:36,012
what this animal was,
that was us.

1512
01:12:38,004 --> 01:12:39,013
<i>The assets in the</i><i>Enquirer</i>

1513
01:12:39,015 --> 01:12:40,026
<i>were the people</i>
<i>who worked there.</i>

1514
01:12:43,006 --> 01:12:45,009
And then came the job cuts.

1515
01:12:45,019 --> 01:12:48,007
You know,
he immediately slashed staff.

1516
01:12:48,016 --> 01:12:51,016
<i>Expense accounts</i>
<i>were being scrutinized.</i>

1517
01:12:52,002 --> 01:12:54,005
<i>Budgets were slashed.</i>

1518
01:12:54,026 --> 01:12:57,029
There was less content
and more filler.

1519
01:12:58,001 --> 01:12:59,018
Kelly: <i>With the</i><i>Enquirer,</i>
<i>David Pecker knew</i>

1520
01:12:59,020 --> 01:13:01,028
he had a way
to reach Middle America,

1521
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,001
flyby America,
supermarket America.

1522
01:13:05,023 --> 01:13:08,019
<i>Maybe not as influential</i>
<i>as it was years earlier,</i>

1523
01:13:08,021 --> 01:13:11,015
but it was still
a pretty healthy company

1524
01:13:11,017 --> 01:13:12,027
when he took over.

1525
01:13:17,003 --> 01:13:18,025
George: <i>In 2001,</i>

1526
01:13:19,002 --> 01:13:22,009
<i>David Pecker built</i>
<i>his AMI building,</i>

1527
01:13:22,011 --> 01:13:24,001
<i>which was always his dream.</i>

1528
01:13:27,022 --> 01:13:31,027
And that was pretty quickly
followed by 9/11.

1529
01:13:41,009 --> 01:13:43,006
And that was a confluence
of events

1530
01:13:43,008 --> 01:13:46,011
that changed everything
pretty drastically

1531
01:13:46,013 --> 01:13:47,017
all at the same time.

1532
01:13:48,013 --> 01:13:52,007
The FBI is searching the site of
the first deadly anthrax attack.

1533
01:13:52,009 --> 01:13:54,010
male reporter: <i>That building</i>
<i>is in Boca Raton, Florida.</i>

1534
01:13:54,012 --> 01:13:57,024
<i>It houses the company,</i>
American Media Incorporated,

1535
01:13:57,026 --> 01:14:00,007
<i>which publishes</i>
<i>tabloid newspapers,</i>

1536
01:14:00,009 --> 01:14:01,027
<i>including the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>

1537
01:14:01,029 --> 01:14:03,016
- <i>The building was sealed off</i>
- (indistinct chatter)

1538
01:14:03,018 --> 01:14:05,022
<i>so that the FBI and the CDC</i>

1539
01:14:05,024 --> 01:14:08,026
<i>can search the facility,</i>
<i>looking at packages</i>

1540
01:14:08,028 --> 01:14:11,029
<i>and mail that may have been</i>
<i>delivered to the building.</i>

1541
01:14:14,018 --> 01:14:17,019
Virga: <i>You know, the whole worl</i>
<i>was in trauma over 9/11.</i>

1542
01:14:18,024 --> 01:14:22,019
And to have a trauma hit like
that a month later close to home

1543
01:14:22,028 --> 01:14:25,014
where the man you sit next
to dies...

1544
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,012
it was terrifying.

1545
01:14:27,014 --> 01:14:28,023
male reporter:
<i>The man who died of anthrax</i>

1546
01:14:28,025 --> 01:14:30,007
<i>was a photo editor there.</i>

1547
01:14:30,009 --> 01:14:32,017
<i>The man exposed</i>
<i>to the disease worked</i>

1548
01:14:32,019 --> 01:14:33,029
<i>in the mail-room.</i>

1549
01:14:34,014 --> 01:14:38,004
- (indistinct chatter)
- (siren wailing)

1550
01:14:38,018 --> 01:14:40,009
Coz:
<i>There was a huge national fear</i>

1551
01:14:40,015 --> 01:14:42,027
that anthrax was gonna spread
across the country,

1552
01:14:42,029 --> 01:14:44,014
and there's a particular fear

1553
01:14:44,024 --> 01:14:48,008
that you could contract anthrax

1554
01:14:48,010 --> 01:14:51,004
<i>through employees</i>
<i>of the</i><i>National Enquirer.</i>

1555
01:14:52,023 --> 01:14:57,006
(machine whirs)

1556
01:15:03,024 --> 01:15:06,013
Coz: <i>Within a week,</i>
<i>we ran a page-one story,</i>

1557
01:15:06,015 --> 01:15:10,012
<i>"Bio-Terrorism Attack,"</i>
<i>that this had occurred to us.</i>

1558
01:15:14,006 --> 01:15:16,013
<i>Why would</i>
<i>they attack American Media?</i>

1559
01:15:16,015 --> 01:15:18,019
<i>Why would they attack...</i>
<i>attack the</i><i>National Enquirer?</i>

1560
01:15:18,026 --> 01:15:21,004
Well, it's quite simple.
It's a piece of Americana.

1561
01:15:21,006 --> 01:15:24,025
It's a populist,
patriotic American magazine,

1562
01:15:25,001 --> 01:15:27,004
and that's what I believe
is why we were attacked.

1563
01:15:27,006 --> 01:15:30,014
Do you fear, though,
a tremendous loss of business?

1564
01:15:30,016 --> 01:15:32,018
Yes, Larry, I... I... I do.

1565
01:15:32,020 --> 01:15:34,027
The World Trade Center
was attacked.

1566
01:15:35,007 --> 01:15:37,010
The Pentagon was attacked,

1567
01:15:37,012 --> 01:15:39,008
and American Media was attacked.

1568
01:15:39,010 --> 01:15:41,000
You, American Media,

1569
01:15:41,002 --> 01:15:42,025
publisher
of these many tabloids,

1570
01:15:42,027 --> 01:15:45,007
- were targeted.
- I think so, yes.

1571
01:15:45,020 --> 01:15:47,010
And does the Bureau think that?

1572
01:15:47,012 --> 01:15:50,009
Have the police thought that,
or this a David Pecker thought?

1573
01:15:50,011 --> 01:15:51,024
This is a David Pecker thought.

1574
01:15:51,026 --> 01:15:54,020
I feel that we had
a bioterrorism attack here.

1575
01:15:55,027 --> 01:16:00,026
Management decided that we need
to be more "patriotic."

1576
01:16:00,028 --> 01:16:02,028
That was the word was used.

1577
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,025
<i>And to support the war effort</i>
<i>that was coming,</i>

1578
01:16:07,001 --> 01:16:10,022
<i>you know, we needed to show</i>
<i>that we were strong.</i>

1579
01:16:11,017 --> 01:16:14,012
<i>People love</i>
<i>to have patriotic stories</i>

1580
01:16:14,014 --> 01:16:15,017
<i>on the front,</i>

1581
01:16:15,027 --> 01:16:18,012
and I think that they had
found another nerve

1582
01:16:18,019 --> 01:16:21,002
<i>that they were hitting</i>
<i>on the readership</i>

1583
01:16:21,004 --> 01:16:24,012
<i>by doing</i>
<i>these post 9/11 stories.</i>

1584
01:16:25,013 --> 01:16:27,016
Coz: <i>We must have put</i>
<i>out probably five</i>

1585
01:16:27,018 --> 01:16:29,011
<i>special commemorative editions</i>

1586
01:16:29,017 --> 01:16:31,029
<i>that were slicker</i>
<i>and glossier...</i>

1587
01:16:33,011 --> 01:16:36,001
'cause remember, at our bones,
we're patriotic.

1588
01:16:36,003 --> 01:16:39,027
Our readers believed
in the U.S. government,

1589
01:16:39,029 --> 01:16:41,024
<i>just like they believed</i>
<i>in America.</i>

1590
01:16:42,022 --> 01:16:46,000
(crowd cheering and applauding)

1591
01:16:49,004 --> 01:16:51,025
What a greeting. Wow.

1592
01:16:52,025 --> 01:16:53,029
Thank you.

1593
01:16:54,008 --> 01:16:58,004
(cheering
and applauding continues)

1594
01:17:03,029 --> 01:17:05,012
Schwarzenegger:
<i>From a bodybuilding career,</i>

1595
01:17:05,014 --> 01:17:08,013
I have gotten
a large female following.

1596
01:17:08,015 --> 01:17:11,016
<i>You know, you have situations</i>
<i>where women absolutely, like,</i>

1597
01:17:11,018 --> 01:17:13,011
<i>take their clothes</i>
<i>off in front of you.</i>

1598
01:17:13,013 --> 01:17:15,003
<i>Like, this woman just took</i>
<i>off her clothes</i>

1599
01:17:15,005 --> 01:17:17,003
<i>and stood there naked,</i>
<i>and she says, "Take me."</i>

1600
01:17:17,005 --> 01:17:20,001
- man: Oh. Oh.
- Yeah, baby.

1601
01:17:20,009 --> 01:17:22,018
Schwarzenegger:
<i>I mean, sometimes, uh,</i>

1602
01:17:22,024 --> 01:17:25,010
it takes a little bit
of respect away

1603
01:17:25,019 --> 01:17:27,003
that one has for women.

1604
01:17:27,005 --> 01:17:28,026
- <i>Oh, hey. I gotta do that.</i>
- (crowd laughing)

1605
01:17:29,004 --> 01:17:32,022
I first met
Arnold Schwarzenegger in 1987.

1606
01:17:32,024 --> 01:17:35,011
<i>I was part of the team</i>
<i>that covered his marriage</i>

1607
01:17:35,013 --> 01:17:36,018
<i>to Maria Shriver.</i>

1608
01:17:36,026 --> 01:17:40,014
<i>Arnold wasn't</i>
<i>the least bit self-conscious</i>

1609
01:17:40,016 --> 01:17:42,020
about interacting
with the press.

1610
01:17:43,014 --> 01:17:47,006
<i>He brought Maria</i>
<i>out of the church on the steps</i>

1611
01:17:47,008 --> 01:17:50,013
<i>and posed for photographs.</i>
<i>He was eating up the press,</i>

1612
01:17:50,015 --> 01:17:54,004
<i>and we had never encountered</i>
<i>a celebrity like that.</i>

1613
01:17:54,006 --> 01:17:56,029
So there was always a lot
of good will toward Arnold.

1614
01:17:57,001 --> 01:17:59,006
- Let's stretch again. Come on.
- (indistinct chatter)

1615
01:17:59,012 --> 01:18:01,023
All right.
And let's do some jumping.

1616
01:18:01,025 --> 01:18:04,013
Come on, now,
and twisting back and forth.

1617
01:18:04,015 --> 01:18:07,009
Oh, I see some sexy bodies
out there twisting.

1618
01:18:07,011 --> 01:18:08,023
- Wow!
- (crowd cheering)

1619
01:18:08,025 --> 01:18:11,011
But the downside was
Arnold was a womanizer.

1620
01:18:12,025 --> 01:18:15,007
Shipp: <i>We've had stories,</i>
<i>you know, on the sets of movies</i>

1621
01:18:15,009 --> 01:18:17,012
where he harassed women all
the time.

1622
01:18:17,014 --> 01:18:19,029
He can't even deny it
at this point.

1623
01:18:20,001 --> 01:18:21,029
I mean, he didn't drug people
like Bill Cosby did,

1624
01:18:22,001 --> 01:18:25,020
to my knowledge, but he...
he was out there constantly,

1625
01:18:26,001 --> 01:18:27,019
you know,
cheating on his family.

1626
01:18:27,021 --> 01:18:29,008
George: <i>We would catch him</i>
<i>from time to time,</i>

1627
01:18:29,010 --> 01:18:31,015
<i>and that didn't deter him</i>

1628
01:18:31,017 --> 01:18:37,000
until he developed
political aspirations.

1629
01:18:37,002 --> 01:18:39,000
On the big screen,
he's currently trying

1630
01:18:39,002 --> 01:18:40,011
to save the human race.

1631
01:18:40,013 --> 01:18:42,009
In real life,
he's happy to limit himself

1632
01:18:42,011 --> 01:18:44,021
to the 36 million people
of California.

1633
01:18:44,023 --> 01:18:46,007
I'm going to run for governor

1634
01:18:46,016 --> 01:18:48,005
- of the state of California.
- (crowd cheering, applauding)

1635
01:18:48,007 --> 01:18:51,005
George: <i>So, just as the campaign</i>
<i>was gearing up,</i>

1636
01:18:51,007 --> 01:18:53,014
the reality was,

1637
01:18:53,016 --> 01:18:57,000
what are we gonna do with
all these stories about affairs

1638
01:18:57,002 --> 01:18:58,018
<i>and his cheating on Maria?</i>

1639
01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:03,006
<i>And David Pecker corralled all</i>
<i>the bad stories</i>

1640
01:19:03,008 --> 01:19:06,029
and assured him
that during the campaign,

1641
01:19:07,001 --> 01:19:08,027
he had nothing to worry about.

1642
01:19:09,003 --> 01:19:10,024
Kelly:
<i>At the time, the American Media</i>

1643
01:19:10,026 --> 01:19:14,012
was making
very highly leveraged deals

1644
01:19:14,014 --> 01:19:16,028
for things like
the Joe Weider publications...

1645
01:19:17,014 --> 01:19:19,027
Muscle & Fitness <i>magazines</i>

1646
01:19:19,029 --> 01:19:21,024
<i>that featured</i>
<i>Arnold Schwarzenegger.</i>

1647
01:19:22,012 --> 01:19:23,027
Arnold, by this time,

1648
01:19:23,029 --> 01:19:26,019
was on the board of directors
at American Media.

1649
01:19:26,021 --> 01:19:29,024
He was in charge
of several of the publications.

1650
01:19:30,002 --> 01:19:34,008
So Arnold came
along with the furniture.

1651
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:36,008
<i>Arnold was family at that point,</i>

1652
01:19:36,019 --> 01:19:40,013
<i>and he and David Pecker</i>
<i>became close friends.</i>

1653
01:19:40,015 --> 01:19:42,020
(crowd cheering, applauding)

1654
01:19:42,028 --> 01:19:46,010
Brenna: <i>Arnold Schwarzenegger</i>
<i>had become forbidden fruit.</i>

1655
01:19:46,023 --> 01:19:48,006
He was taken off the menu

1656
01:19:48,008 --> 01:19:51,010
because he'd made friends
with the management,

1657
01:19:51,020 --> 01:19:53,017
and if you went
against the management,

1658
01:19:53,019 --> 01:19:55,002
you were out of a job.

1659
01:19:55,015 --> 01:20:00,000
Which brings us to the concept
of... of catch and kill.

1660
01:20:02,004 --> 01:20:06,010
There had been stories done
on Arnold having an affair...

1661
01:20:06,026 --> 01:20:09,003
with this young actress.

1662
01:20:09,016 --> 01:20:12,014
He was seeing her off and on
for ten years...

1663
01:20:12,029 --> 01:20:15,023
a woman by the name
of Gigi Goyette.

1664
01:20:17,026 --> 01:20:19,021
Approximately two years
after the story

1665
01:20:19,023 --> 01:20:22,019
was released
in the <i>National Enquirer,</i>

1666
01:20:22,021 --> 01:20:25,008
<i>we got a call</i>
<i>from American Media,</i>

1667
01:20:25,010 --> 01:20:27,025
and they were interested
in the rights to my...

1668
01:20:28,010 --> 01:20:31,014
life story, specifically,
my story with Arnold.

1669
01:20:31,016 --> 01:20:36,025
And I met Jerry George.
It was a summer afternoon.

1670
01:20:37,006 --> 01:20:38,019
We sat down at the table,

1671
01:20:38,021 --> 01:20:40,029
and he pulled out
a yellow envelope...

1672
01:20:41,025 --> 01:20:42,029
legal envelope

1673
01:20:43,001 --> 01:20:44,029
with a three-page contract
in it.

1674
01:20:45,001 --> 01:20:46,022
We proposed to her

1675
01:20:47,004 --> 01:20:50,011
that if she sold us the rights
to her story...

1676
01:20:50,026 --> 01:20:54,003
um, we, ultimately,
would develop them

1677
01:20:54,005 --> 01:20:58,003
in terms of a book
and possibly a television movie.

1678
01:20:58,005 --> 01:20:59,011
And he was, like...

1679
01:21:00,007 --> 01:21:03,024
kind of buttering me up.
Like, "This is gonna be great.

1680
01:21:03,026 --> 01:21:05,028
We're gonna do
a book-signing tour.

1681
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,002
You'll go all over the country."

1682
01:21:08,004 --> 01:21:09,007
"Trust us.

1683
01:21:09,014 --> 01:21:11,022
Sign the rights
to your story over.

1684
01:21:11,024 --> 01:21:13,005
We'll take care of you."

1685
01:21:13,013 --> 01:21:16,025
<i>David Pecker decided to buy up</i>
<i>her life story,</i>

1686
01:21:17,002 --> 01:21:18,016
<i>all rights,</i>

1687
01:21:18,027 --> 01:21:22,007
<i>and American Media</i>
<i>took the contract,</i>

1688
01:21:22,015 --> 01:21:25,018
put it in the safe,
closed the door

1689
01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:29,017
and never moved any further
on that project.

1690
01:21:30,005 --> 01:21:32,005
They didn't want to publish
my story.

1691
01:21:32,007 --> 01:21:34,015
They didn't even wanna see
the story. They didn't care.

1692
01:21:34,017 --> 01:21:37,007
- That was not their intent.
- And I was part of it.

1693
01:21:37,023 --> 01:21:40,007
Um, not my proudest
professional moment...

1694
01:21:40,023 --> 01:21:43,011
but I was the editor on that,

1695
01:21:43,013 --> 01:21:45,022
and I executed
the contract with her.

1696
01:21:46,013 --> 01:21:50,019
Unbeknownst to me,
it was to silence my story

1697
01:21:50,021 --> 01:21:54,004
from ever hitting
the stands because...

1698
01:21:54,026 --> 01:21:58,004
Arnold Schwarzenegger
was running for governor.

1699
01:21:58,018 --> 01:22:02,017
(crowd cheering)

1700
01:22:02,019 --> 01:22:05,021
If you work hard
and if you play by the rules,

1701
01:22:05,023 --> 01:22:08,000
this country
is truly open to you.

1702
01:22:08,002 --> 01:22:13,006
- You can achieve anything.
- (crowd cheering)

1703
01:22:18,013 --> 01:22:20,003
Kelly: <i>The public didn't think</i>

1704
01:22:20,005 --> 01:22:22,013
<i>that the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>
<i>had a point of view.</i>

1705
01:22:22,029 --> 01:22:25,015
<i>They thought the</i><i>Enquirer's</i>
<i>point of view was,</i>

1706
01:22:25,029 --> 01:22:29,003
"Cover everybody.
Hold truth to power."

1707
01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:30,018
But I don't think...

1708
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,008
people expected them
to be burying stories

1709
01:22:34,010 --> 01:22:36,014
as part
of their political agenda.

1710
01:22:37,022 --> 01:22:39,017
<i>The public was, in a sense,</i>

1711
01:22:39,019 --> 01:22:41,021
deceived into not seeing
the point of view

1712
01:22:41,023 --> 01:22:44,009
that was really driving
a lot of the agenda.

1713
01:22:57,019 --> 01:23:01,008
I find it very interesting
that the same thing

1714
01:23:01,010 --> 01:23:04,011
that happened to me
with American Media

1715
01:23:04,013 --> 01:23:07,012
also happened
with Stormy Daniels

1716
01:23:07,014 --> 01:23:08,026
<i>and Karen McDougal.</i>

1717
01:23:09,019 --> 01:23:11,012
male reporter:
<i>The McDougal story never ran</i>

1718
01:23:11,014 --> 01:23:12,028
<i>in the tabloid.</i>

1719
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,009
<i>Cohen says he worked</i>
<i>with Pecker to bury it...</i>

1720
01:23:15,011 --> 01:23:17,012
<i>Operating at the request</i>
<i>of the candidate</i>

1721
01:23:17,014 --> 01:23:20,022
<i>for the principal purpose</i>
<i>of influencing the election.</i>

1722
01:23:20,024 --> 01:23:23,004
This is about the most
powerful people in the country

1723
01:23:23,006 --> 01:23:25,004
having the ability to silence

1724
01:23:25,006 --> 01:23:27,020
and change
the news narrative at will.

1725
01:23:27,022 --> 01:23:29,013
And I think that the public
should know that,

1726
01:23:29,015 --> 01:23:32,017
and... and, look, I'll defer
to the election-law experts.

1727
01:23:32,019 --> 01:23:35,001
They say
that this is worth scrutinizing.

1728
01:23:35,009 --> 01:23:36,025
Haberman: <i>Normally speaking,</i>
<i>news organizations</i>

1729
01:23:36,027 --> 01:23:39,012
don't get information
in order to bury it.

1730
01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:40,024
That's what's different here.

1731
01:23:41,016 --> 01:23:43,019
<i>You're talking about</i>
<i>silencing women...</i>

1732
01:23:44,005 --> 01:23:46,000
and being involved
in silencing women

1733
01:23:46,002 --> 01:23:47,027
with hush payments.
That is a whole...

1734
01:23:48,012 --> 01:23:49,020
different order of magnitude

1735
01:23:49,022 --> 01:23:51,002
<i>that I had never heard</i>
<i>of before.</i>

1736
01:23:52,024 --> 01:23:55,007
<i>I don't know how many</i>
<i>of these there are.</i>

1737
01:23:55,016 --> 01:23:56,026
<i>Those are the ones we know of,</i>

1738
01:23:57,005 --> 01:23:59,008
<i>but certainly,</i>
<i>these were relationships</i>

1739
01:23:59,010 --> 01:24:03,001
that helped powerful figures
maintain their image.

1740
01:24:03,003 --> 01:24:05,015
(indistinct chatter)

1741
01:24:05,017 --> 01:24:08,001
<i>And I know some people who work</i>
<i>at the</i><i>National Enquirer,</i>

1742
01:24:08,003 --> 01:24:09,024
and they are good,
solid reporters.

1743
01:24:09,026 --> 01:24:13,005
It's just that when they veer
into other areas

1744
01:24:13,007 --> 01:24:17,018
like trying to overtly help
a candidate win the presidency,

1745
01:24:17,025 --> 01:24:19,010
that is something different.

1746
01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:24,016
Bernstein: <i>When you're talking</i>
<i>about the</i><i>Enquirer</i>

1747
01:24:24,018 --> 01:24:27,006
and you're talking about
what happened with Donald Trump,

1748
01:24:27,008 --> 01:24:29,010
it is the ultimate corruption.

1749
01:24:29,018 --> 01:24:32,015
The idea that you would
kill a story

1750
01:24:32,017 --> 01:24:37,004
to help the aspirations
of a politician,

1751
01:24:37,006 --> 01:24:40,010
a businessman,
to make money, whatever,

1752
01:24:40,012 --> 01:24:45,022
it is as corrupt as anything
you can do as a journalist,

1753
01:24:45,024 --> 01:24:47,022
as corrupt as you can be.

1754
01:24:50,002 --> 01:24:51,020
Kelly: <i>David Pecker saw Trump</i>

1755
01:24:51,022 --> 01:24:54,019
<i>as somebody</i>
<i>he should buddy up to.</i>

1756
01:24:54,027 --> 01:24:57,001
You know,
"Hey, we're both New Yorkers.

1757
01:24:57,003 --> 01:24:59,009
We both have operations
in Florida."

1758
01:24:59,018 --> 01:25:03,001
<i>David Pecker was known to bump</i>
<i>into Donald Trump in the airport</i>

1759
01:25:03,003 --> 01:25:05,023
and hitch a ride on his private
jet back to New York.

1760
01:25:06,004 --> 01:25:08,000
Haberman: <i>They were sort of</i>
<i>fellow travelers.</i>

1761
01:25:08,002 --> 01:25:10,000
<i>Pecker liked</i>
<i>Donald Trump's style.</i>

1762
01:25:10,002 --> 01:25:11,016
I think Donald Trump liked
the ability

1763
01:25:11,018 --> 01:25:14,006
to be in a publication
that people were reading,

1764
01:25:14,008 --> 01:25:15,022
and there was a symbiosis there.

1765
01:25:15,024 --> 01:25:17,027
Both of them had something
that the other needed,

1766
01:25:17,029 --> 01:25:19,012
wanted, craved...

1767
01:25:20,002 --> 01:25:21,029
and then
it grew from there.

1768
01:25:24,003 --> 01:25:25,029
George: <i>David Pecker brought...</i>

1769
01:25:26,019 --> 01:25:28,002
a silent editor

1770
01:25:28,004 --> 01:25:30,028
with him to the <i>Enquirer,</i>
and it was Donald Trump.

1771
01:25:31,008 --> 01:25:36,004
Trump could not only control
coverage of his own life...

1772
01:25:36,024 --> 01:25:40,025
but he could also offer up
story ideas

1773
01:25:41,003 --> 01:25:44,004
on his enemies,
and he did so frequently.

1774
01:25:44,006 --> 01:25:46,023
It's obviously been a very
rough-and-tumble week, uh,

1775
01:25:46,025 --> 01:25:49,006
between you and Donald Trump.
A salacious story about you

1776
01:25:49,008 --> 01:25:50,025
was published
in the <i>National Enquirer.</i>

1777
01:25:51,001 --> 01:25:52,028
male reporter: <i>Unsubstantiated</i>
<i>stories about Ted Cruz,</i>

1778
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,003
<i>including allegations</i>
<i>of marital infidelity,</i>

1779
01:25:55,005 --> 01:25:57,013
<i>and the baseless claim</i>
<i>that Cruz's father worked</i>

1780
01:25:57,015 --> 01:26:00,028
<i>with Lee Harvey Oswald</i>
<i>in the Kennedy assassination.</i>

1781
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,024
There was a picture
on the front page

1782
01:26:03,026 --> 01:26:07,012
of the <i>National Enquirer,</i>
which does have credibility.

1783
01:26:07,014 --> 01:26:10,002
Trump spread those stories
to bash his Republican rival,

1784
01:26:10,004 --> 01:26:11,028
all while claiming
he had nothing to do

1785
01:26:12,001 --> 01:26:14,015
with the tabloid
behind the allegations.

1786
01:26:14,017 --> 01:26:16,018
The <i>National Enquirer</i>
carved out a stake

1787
01:26:16,020 --> 01:26:19,000
in the Trump candidacy
pretty early on.

1788
01:26:19,002 --> 01:26:22,015
Which meant that a lot
of material that they put out...

1789
01:26:22,029 --> 01:26:26,009
was suddenly
influencing opinions.

1790
01:26:27,006 --> 01:26:28,014
And, you know,
the <i>National Enquirer</i>

1791
01:26:28,016 --> 01:26:29,028
in its history
has never endorsed

1792
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,024
a presidential candidate
until Donald Trump?

1793
01:26:31,026 --> 01:26:34,023
The first time I realized
that the <i>National Enquirer</i>

1794
01:26:34,025 --> 01:26:38,010
had become partisan
was years after I left,

1795
01:26:38,012 --> 01:26:40,024
<i>when I walked</i>
<i>into my local supermarket,</i>

1796
01:26:40,026 --> 01:26:42,003
<i>and I saw the cover,</i>

1797
01:26:42,005 --> 01:26:44,008
<i>and I had to do a...</i>
<i>a second look.</i>

1798
01:26:44,010 --> 01:26:45,024
It was a huge story,

1799
01:26:46,007 --> 01:26:48,009
that said how Donald Trump

1800
01:26:48,011 --> 01:26:50,020
<i>is gonna make America</i>
<i>great again.</i>

1801
01:26:51,010 --> 01:26:53,000
<i>That is so foreign</i>

1802
01:26:53,002 --> 01:26:55,014
<i>to anybody who worked</i>
<i>at the</i><i>National Enquirer.</i>

1803
01:26:55,016 --> 01:26:58,024
That concept that that is
a page-one story

1804
01:26:58,026 --> 01:27:00,017
is... is ludicrous.

1805
01:27:00,027 --> 01:27:02,010
And at the same time,

1806
01:27:02,017 --> 01:27:04,023
<i>every time you saw</i>
<i>Hillary Clinton on the cover,</i>

1807
01:27:04,025 --> 01:27:07,009
<i>she was either all alone,</i>

1808
01:27:07,011 --> 01:27:10,001
<i>on her way</i>
<i>to the hospital, dying.</i>

1809
01:27:10,007 --> 01:27:13,010
And that's when I went, "Uh-oh.
Something's going on here."

1810
01:27:16,011 --> 01:27:20,006
Today, the <i>National Enquirer</i>
is selling about 150,000 copies,

1811
01:27:20,008 --> 01:27:21,024
200,000 copies.

1812
01:27:21,026 --> 01:27:23,025
So you might ask, why does
the <i>National Enquirer</i>

1813
01:27:23,027 --> 01:27:26,026
have any relevancy
in today's world?

1814
01:27:26,028 --> 01:27:29,000
There's a very simple reason
for that.

1815
01:27:29,002 --> 01:27:31,014
The <i>National Enquirer,</i>
when you think about it...

1816
01:27:32,003 --> 01:27:36,011
is the most perfectly placed
piece of propaganda in America

1817
01:27:36,013 --> 01:27:38,006
that is seen by...

1818
01:27:38,026 --> 01:27:42,002
a hundred million people a week,
probably more.

1819
01:27:42,004 --> 01:27:43,016
It's right there in your face.

1820
01:27:43,018 --> 01:27:45,022
It's like buying
a banner ad on a highway,

1821
01:27:45,024 --> 01:27:48,002
except the highway happens
to be the conveyor belt.

1822
01:27:48,004 --> 01:27:50,006
<i>So if you have</i>
<i>a political message...</i>

1823
01:27:50,018 --> 01:27:52,008
<i>it's a great place to put it.</i>

1824
01:27:55,003 --> 01:27:57,029
Regan: <i>I think the thing</i>
<i>that people don't realize</i>

1825
01:27:58,017 --> 01:28:00,028
is just how creepy...

1826
01:28:01,027 --> 01:28:03,009
the operations are.

1827
01:28:03,024 --> 01:28:06,005
<i>I don't think any of us</i>
<i>will ever know</i>

1828
01:28:06,014 --> 01:28:08,002
<i>what really happened</i>

1829
01:28:08,004 --> 01:28:10,005
<i>between David Pecker</i>
<i>and Donald Trump,</i>

1830
01:28:10,007 --> 01:28:13,016
and the deals that were made
and the thousands of deals

1831
01:28:13,018 --> 01:28:16,006
that are made every day
by the powerful.

1832
01:28:16,008 --> 01:28:17,027
- (indistinct chatter)
- (camera shutter clicks)

1833
01:28:19,019 --> 01:28:23,011
In early 2018, American Media
published a tribute magazine

1834
01:28:23,013 --> 01:28:25,024
to the Crown Prince
of Saudi Arabia.

1835
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:28,013
George:
<i>We'll make it a glossy,</i>

1836
01:28:28,015 --> 01:28:30,027
<i>and we'll put the prince</i>
<i>on the cover.</i>

1837
01:28:30,029 --> 01:28:33,019
<i>And it will be</i>
<i>a one-time-only deal,</i>

1838
01:28:34,009 --> 01:28:36,020
<i>and we'll rack it</i>
<i>at Walmart for...</i>

1839
01:28:37,006 --> 01:28:38,015
<i>13 dollars.</i>

1840
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:43,014
<i>And we'll make Saudi Arabia</i>
<i>look like paradise.</i>

1841
01:28:44,018 --> 01:28:46,016
Won't the Saudis like that?

1842
01:28:46,025 --> 01:28:49,001
Kelly:
<i>David Pecker was no fool.</i>

1843
01:28:49,003 --> 01:28:53,026
<i>He knew that there was a Saudi</i>
<i>sovereign investment fund.</i>

1844
01:28:55,004 --> 01:28:57,012
<i>Perhaps</i><i>American Media</i>
<i>was hoping</i>

1845
01:28:57,014 --> 01:28:59,006
<i>that they would get</i>
<i>a slice of it.</i>

1846
01:28:59,027 --> 01:29:02,013
<i>The theory and the speculation</i>
<i>was everywhere</i>

1847
01:29:02,015 --> 01:29:04,012
<i>that there was</i>
<i>ulterior motives on this,</i>

1848
01:29:04,014 --> 01:29:05,025
<i>that it was not a straight-up,</i>

1849
01:29:05,027 --> 01:29:09,002
<i>"Hey, here's a pop figure</i>
<i>that will sell</i>

1850
01:29:09,004 --> 01:29:12,005
<i>like Brad Pitt or Angelina Jole</i>
<i>or the Kardashians,"</i>

1851
01:29:12,007 --> 01:29:14,005
<i>but they were giving him</i>
<i>that treatment.</i>

1852
01:29:14,016 --> 01:29:15,024
I don't think it resonated

1853
01:29:15,026 --> 01:29:17,024
with Middle America,
though, so...

1854
01:29:19,001 --> 01:29:20,014
why were they doing it?

1855
01:29:20,016 --> 01:29:22,008
<i>- What is going on here?</i>
<i>- I don't know.</i>

1856
01:29:22,010 --> 01:29:25,020
<i>I mean, the two leading theories</i>
<i>seem to be that AMI is either</i>

1857
01:29:25,022 --> 01:29:28,024
<i>doing the Saudis' dirty work,</i>

1858
01:29:28,026 --> 01:29:30,023
<i>President Trump's</i>
<i>dirty work,</i>

1859
01:29:30,025 --> 01:29:33,008
<i>or a combination</i>
<i>of the two.</i>

1860
01:29:34,002 --> 01:29:37,015
Amazon founder Jeff Bezos
accusing the <i>National Enquirer</i>

1861
01:29:37,017 --> 01:29:39,000
of blackmail and extortion.

1862
01:29:39,002 --> 01:29:41,013
<i>It is a shocking,</i>
<i>a deeply personal post,</i>

1863
01:29:41,015 --> 01:29:43,004
<i>just published online.</i>

1864
01:29:43,006 --> 01:29:45,029
female reporter: <i>AMI attempted</i>
<i>to extort and blackmail Bezos</i>

1865
01:29:46,001 --> 01:29:48,026
<i>by threatening to release</i>
<i>compromising photos and texts</i>

1866
01:29:48,028 --> 01:29:51,015
<i>between the billionaire</i>
<i>and his alleged mistress.</i>

1867
01:29:51,017 --> 01:29:53,001
Williams:
<i>Claims of extortion,</i>

1868
01:29:53,007 --> 01:29:55,015
<i>blackmail coming</i>
<i>from the world's richest man.</i>

1869
01:29:55,017 --> 01:29:57,029
<i>This publication by</i>
<i>the</i><i>National Enquirer</i>

1870
01:29:58,001 --> 01:30:00,003
might have been
politically motivated.

1871
01:30:00,005 --> 01:30:02,006
Burnett: <i>Jeff Bezos owns</i>
The Washington Post,

1872
01:30:02,008 --> 01:30:04,001
<i>which the president</i>
<i>regularly pillories</i>

1873
01:30:04,003 --> 01:30:06,012
<i>- for its coverage.</i>
<i>- "We have ten photos of you,</i>

1874
01:30:06,014 --> 01:30:09,007
<i>- Jeff Bezos, sexual in nature"</i>
- Carlson: <i>In some ways,</i>

1875
01:30:09,009 --> 01:30:11,002
<i>all publicity is good publicity.</i>

1876
01:30:11,004 --> 01:30:12,022
Look at all those cameras.

1877
01:30:12,028 --> 01:30:15,000
Carlson: <i>There's also a really</i>
<i>bad stench to this thing.</i>

1878
01:30:15,002 --> 01:30:17,006
Trump is trying
to take out Bezos Bear

1879
01:30:17,008 --> 01:30:19,022
with a far-reaching
secret conspiracy.

1880
01:30:19,024 --> 01:30:21,025
They messed with the wrong guy.

1881
01:30:21,027 --> 01:30:23,012
And they have found that out.

1882
01:30:23,014 --> 01:30:26,009
This story is the stuff
that tabloid dreams are made of.

1883
01:30:30,021 --> 01:30:34,002
What the hell happened?
The <i>Enquirer</i><i>got overtaken by...</i>

1884
01:30:34,023 --> 01:30:36,020
mainstream media,
who out-enquired

1885
01:30:36,022 --> 01:30:39,012
the <i>Enquirer</i><i>in the end,</i>
and I think that's where we are.

1886
01:30:39,014 --> 01:30:41,009
The <i>Enquirer's</i>
been out-enquired.

1887
01:30:42,012 --> 01:30:46,009
- (music playing)
- (beeping)

1888
01:30:54,009 --> 01:30:56,010
Haberman: <i>A lot of people</i>
<i>used to understand</i>

1889
01:30:56,019 --> 01:30:57,028
<i>the line between...</i>

1890
01:30:58,010 --> 01:30:59,026
<i>some of the things</i>
<i>the</i><i>National Enquirer</i><i>does</i>

1891
01:30:59,028 --> 01:31:01,015
<i>and what the</i>
<i>mainstream press does,</i>

1892
01:31:01,017 --> 01:31:03,002
<i>and I think that people's</i>
<i>understanding</i>

1893
01:31:03,004 --> 01:31:05,026
of that has shrunk.
I think it has eroded,

1894
01:31:05,028 --> 01:31:10,002
and I think that that has
all contributed to a bad cycle.

1895
01:31:12,005 --> 01:31:13,027
Bernstein:
<i>It's almost impossible</i>

1896
01:31:13,029 --> 01:31:17,013
<i>in our culture today</i>
<i>to have a fact-based debate.</i>

1897
01:31:17,024 --> 01:31:20,001
We cannot agree on the facts.

1898
01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:22,018
That is a terrible place to be.

1899
01:31:24,015 --> 01:31:26,028
Auletta: <i>Sometimes we are guilty</i>

1900
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,010
<i>of enjoying things</i>
<i>we shouldn't enjoy...</i>

1901
01:31:31,004 --> 01:31:35,004
<i>of talking about things</i>
<i>we shouldn't be talking about,</i>

1902
01:31:35,029 --> 01:31:40,006
<i>of claiming something as a fact</i>
<i>when it's not a fact.</i>

1903
01:31:40,019 --> 01:31:43,006
<i>So in that sense, we are really</i>

1904
01:31:43,021 --> 01:31:46,000
children
of the <i>National Enquirer.</i>

1905
01:31:46,020 --> 01:31:50,001
(music playing)

1906
01:31:54,012 --> 01:31:55,029
A South Florida
holiday tradition

1907
01:31:56,001 --> 01:31:58,024
is under way tonight in Lantana
at the headquarters

1908
01:31:58,026 --> 01:32:01,001
of the <i>National Enquirer</i>
tabloid.

1909
01:32:01,010 --> 01:32:04,004
<i>NewsCenter 7's</i><i>Don Dare is live</i>
in front of what they call

1910
01:32:04,006 --> 01:32:05,029
the world's largest
Christmas tree.

1911
01:32:06,001 --> 01:32:07,029
Don, you really think
it's the world's largest?

1912
01:32:08,001 --> 01:32:12,027
I believe it is, Sally.
The tree is 126 feet high.

1913
01:32:13,005 --> 01:32:15,004
That's 12 stories...

1914
01:32:17,002 --> 01:32:21,018
- (music playing)
- (train whistles)

1915
01:32:24,002 --> 01:32:25,027
Brenna: <i>In many ways...</i>

1916
01:32:26,011 --> 01:32:30,015
I want to defend
this kind of journalism

1917
01:32:30,017 --> 01:32:34,012
because it... it has a place.
In... in other ways...

1918
01:32:34,022 --> 01:32:37,008
(stammers) ...there's
a very shameful aspect

1919
01:32:37,010 --> 01:32:40,007
to it, as well.
There was distortion...

1920
01:32:40,022 --> 01:32:42,021
and there was the degrading
of the...

1921
01:32:42,023 --> 01:32:45,005
of the basic
journalistic spirit.

1922
01:32:45,028 --> 01:32:48,018
I'm not happy about what I did,

1923
01:32:48,020 --> 01:32:51,018
but I'm not
that unhappy, either.

1924
01:32:52,002 --> 01:32:55,001
I look at this now,
and I'm thinking, "Man, oh, man.

1925
01:32:55,014 --> 01:32:57,007
How did we get... (sighs)

1926
01:32:57,028 --> 01:32:59,007
...a tabloid subject

1927
01:32:59,009 --> 01:33:01,001
who's now President
of the United States?

1928
01:33:01,023 --> 01:33:05,009
And do I have any shame in this
or potential guilt of my own?"

1929
01:33:05,011 --> 01:33:08,024
(chuckles) You know,
this is the world of tabloid.

1930
01:33:08,026 --> 01:33:10,026
Who the hell knows?
You're not planning strategy.

1931
01:33:10,028 --> 01:33:12,011
You're not planning
a world game.

1932
01:33:12,013 --> 01:33:14,022
Hell, you're just trying
to get a page one

1933
01:33:14,024 --> 01:33:16,026
that will sell in the next week.

1934
01:33:17,013 --> 01:33:18,021
So...

1935
01:33:20,003 --> 01:33:21,014
what can I say?

1936
01:33:23,011 --> 01:33:24,022
I was a journalist.

1937
01:33:25,017 --> 01:33:31,020
(music playing)

1938
01:33:41,022 --> 01:33:43,009
<i>♪ All right ♪</i>

1939
01:33:43,020 --> 01:33:44,029
<i>♪ Whew ♪</i>

1940
01:33:45,017 --> 01:33:48,019
<i>♪ Baby, you're clickbait sitti'</i>
<i>Underneath of my fingers ♪</i>

1941
01:33:48,029 --> 01:33:52,004
<i>♪ Yeah, baby, you're clickbait</i>
<i>Sittin' underneath of my ♪</i>

1942
01:33:52,015 --> 01:33:56,018
<i>♪ Fingers</i>
<i>Point me in your direction ♪</i>

1943
01:33:56,020 --> 01:33:59,010
♪ You got my, my, my attention ♪

1944
01:33:59,016 --> 01:34:05,024
<i>♪ Baby, you're clickbait sitti'</i>
<i>Underneath of my fingers ♪</i>

1945
01:34:08,026 --> 01:34:13,001
<i>♪ Wow, double major</i>
<i>In advertising ♪</i>

1946
01:34:13,003 --> 01:34:14,028
<i>♪ If you're sellin',</i>
<i>I'm buyin' ♪</i>

1947
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,018
<i>♪ Got your Rorschach,</i>
<i>deep deep deep in my mind ♪</i>

1948
01:34:17,020 --> 01:34:19,029
<i>♪ And you keep pulling</i>
<i>My strings ♪</i>

1949
01:34:20,001 --> 01:34:22,028
<i>♪ Got me wonderin'</i>
<i>What is the truth or a myth ♪</i>

1950
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,008
<i>♪ You got me hangin' on a carrt</i>
<i>And a wish ♪</i>

1951
01:34:25,010 --> 01:34:29,021
<i>♪ And I'm just a little fish</i>
<i>A little fish bish, oh ♪</i>

1952
01:34:29,023 --> 01:34:34,002
<i>♪ Baby, you're clickbait sitti'</i>
<i>Underneath of my fingers ♪</i>

1953
01:34:34,012 --> 01:34:37,021
<i>♪ Yeah, baby, you're clickbait</i>
<i>Sittin' underneath of my ♪</i>

1954
01:34:38,001 --> 01:34:42,005
<i>♪ Fingers</i>
<i>Point me in your direction ♪</i>

1955
01:34:42,007 --> 01:34:44,025
<i>♪ You got my, my, my attention ♪</i>

1956
01:34:44,027 --> 01:34:51,006
<i>♪ Baby, you're clickbait sitti'</i>
<i>Underneath of my fingers ♪</i>

1957
01:34:58,021 --> 01:35:00,026
<i>♪ Unh, unh, unh, unh ♪</i>

1958
01:35:01,009 --> 01:35:02,027
<i>♪ I'm curious ♪</i>

1959
01:35:03,011 --> 01:35:08,002
<i>♪ I'm curious about you</i>
<i>I'm curious ♪</i>

1960
01:35:08,012 --> 01:35:10,026
<i>♪ Yes, I'm curious ♪</i>

1961
01:35:11,012 --> 01:35:13,003
<i>♪ I'm curious ♪</i>

1962
01:35:13,016 --> 01:35:18,006
<i>♪ I'm curious about you</i>
<i>Curious ♪</i>

1963
01:35:18,023 --> 01:35:20,017
<i>♪ I'm curious ♪</i>

1964
01:35:25,007 --> 01:35:29,017
<i>♪ Baby, you're clickbait sitti'</i>
<i>Underneath of my fingers ♪</i>

1965
01:35:29,027 --> 01:35:33,007
<i>♪ Yeah, baby, you're clickbait</i>
<i>Sittin' underneath of my ♪</i>

1966
01:35:33,017 --> 01:35:37,024
<i>♪ Fingers</i>
<i>Point me in your direction ♪</i>

1967
01:35:37,026 --> 01:35:40,011
<i>♪ You got my, my, my attention ♪</i>

1968
01:35:40,013 --> 01:35:46,023
<i>♪ Baby, you're clickbait sitti'</i>
<i>Underneath of my fingers ♪</i>

1969
01:35:48,028 --> 01:35:52,016
<i>♪ F-f-fingers, whoo! ♪</i>

1970
01:35:53,013 --> 01:35:58,004
<i>♪ Fing-f-fingers, ooh! ♪</i>

1971
01:35:58,021 --> 01:36:02,006
<i>♪ Fing-f-fingers ♪</i>



