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Bicentennial hats here!
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Bicentennial hats.
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Excuse me, do you feel patriotic?
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Patriotic is-- is not the real
feeling that I have right now.
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People like bicentennial hats,
I sell 'em bicentennial hats.
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Uh-huh.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
of this beautiful day
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and this bicentennial day, right here,
downtown in New York City,
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ladies and gentlemen.
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Joseph Hurdley Jr.,
songwriter of New York City.
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Otherwise, Uncle Sam is going to sing
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one of his versions
of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
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Ladies and gentlemen,
"The Star-Spangled Banner" with new music.
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Words by Francis Scott Key
and music by Joseph Hurdley Jr.,
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dedicated to the future of America,
God save the republic.
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Are you ready, maestro?
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No maestros? I'll sing it myself.
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♪ O say, can you see
By the dawn's early light ♪
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It's one dollar.
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Get your copies here.
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I've got four versions of...
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♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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♪ I'm not sleepy
And there is no place I'm going to ♪
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♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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♪ In the jingle jangle morning ♪
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♪ I'll come followin' you ♪
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♪ Though I know that evenin's empire ♪
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♪ Has returned into sand... ♪
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We're gathered in this historic house
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for the celebration
of the 200th anniversary
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of the United States,
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but I refer to the words that were spoken
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by those who at the time
of the Declaration of Independence
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thought of the mission of America,
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what America could mean to the world.
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And one of them said
that we act not just for ourselves,
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but for all mankind.
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♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me... ♪
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Saigon had fallen.
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People had seemed to, uh,
lost their sense of,
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uh, conviction for...
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for just about anything.
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♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man... ♪
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Lot of arguments about why...
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America was chased out of Vietnam...
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in such a humiliating way.
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Two people tried to shoot
the president in one month.
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♪ Take me on a trip
Upon your magic... ♪
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Let us set for our goal in 1976
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to move forward in the realm
of the American spirit.
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♪ My hands can't feel to grip ♪
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That the opportunity
that everybody in this room has had...
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is something that is a realizable dream
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that can be achieved
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for anyone who has the good fortune
to be born in this country,
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or anyone who has the good fortune
to come to this country.
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♪ Ready for to fade
Into my own parade...♪
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The idea was to put a tour up,
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combination of different acts
on the same stage
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for a variety of, uh, musical styles.
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I wouldn't say
it was a, uh, traditional revue,
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but it was
in the, uh, traditional... um...
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form of, uh, of a revue.
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That's all clumsy bullshit.
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- Okay.
- Y'know.
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- So what--
- I'm trying to get to the...
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To the core thing.
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To the core of what
this Rolling Thunder thing is all about,
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and I don't have a clue,
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because it's not... It's about nothing.
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It's a-- It's just something
that happened 40 years ago.
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And that's the truth of it.
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- Why don't we go down that road?
- Okay, we can.
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Let's go.
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All right, let's go.
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I don't remember a thing
about Rolling Thunder.
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- Okay.
- I mean, it-- it happened
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so long ago, I wasn't even born, you know?
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Uh, I... So, what do you wanna know?
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♪ And take me disappearing ♪
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♪ Through the smoke rings of my mind ♪
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♪ Down the foggy ruins of time ♪
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♪ Far past the frozen leaves ♪
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♪ The haunted, frightened trees ♪
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♪ Out to the windy beach ♪
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♪ Far from the twisted reach
Of crazy sorrow ♪
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♪ Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky ♪
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♪ With one hand waving free ♪
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♪ Silhouetted by the sea ♪
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♪ Circled by the circus sands ♪
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♪ With all memory and fate ♪
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♪ Driven deep beneath the waves ♪
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♪ Let me forget about today
Until tomorrow ♪
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♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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♪ I'm not sleepy... ♪
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- Is that Bob Dylan?
- That is Bob Dylan!
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Life isn't about finding yourself...
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or finding anything.
Life is about creating yourself.
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- Playing tonight?
- And creating things.
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And I want to introduce
another fine...
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entertainer here at Folk City,
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so everybody...
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Summer, 1975.
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It was a very odd scene in New York.
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Unusual. Sort of.
The folk era had died out. Or did it?
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Joan Baez
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and her friend Bob Dylan!
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Let's have a nice hand for Joan Baez...
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Rumor came around
that the inspired Dylan was back,
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gathering all-- all his forces.
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♪ When ev'rything that I'm sayin' ♪
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♪ You can say it just as good ♪
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Woo!
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And pretty soon,
they were all jamming together
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as if they were young musicians
having fun,
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actually in direct contact
with each other.
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♪ And all the hills echoèd ♪
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♪ And all the hills echoèd ♪
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♪ My name is Juanano de Castro ♪
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Lord...
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♪ My father was a Spanish grandee ♪
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Excuse me, please!
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We're really running short of time.
I wanna introduce...
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Miss Patti Smith and Eric Anderson.
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Let's have a nice hand.
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Let's hear it! Get up here!
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There was a...
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There was an archer...
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There was an archer
who was in love with his sister.
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So, the archer looked at his sister
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and he said,
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"All the madness
between me and you is real private."
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But the sister was too scared,
so the sister...
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the sister put down her cigarette
and she married the sultan.
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So the archer became a...
the archer for the king.
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So, it was the wedding night,
and the sultan and the sister
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were gonna get married.
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And so...
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the archer went out the door,
and he had on his armor,
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and he was going. There was all, like...
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You know how like the gran--
ground was in 16th-century Japan?
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It was black and green like a chessboard.
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So the archer was walking
on the black part of the chessboard,
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and he looked at the black part
of the chessboard,
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and it looked
like the back of his sister's hair.
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And so...
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You know how it is.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, it looked... Oh, what a mess.
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Looked like the back of his sister's hair,
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and so he couldn't advance
and be the king's archer no more,
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because he looked over at the palace,
and over at the palace,
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he saw his sister undressing
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for the sultan.
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So the prince took off a--
took off all his armor,
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and he started walking toward the palace.
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He started walking in another direction,
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started walking in another dimension,
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started walking in another dimension.
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He moved in another dimension.
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♪ I move in another dimension ♪
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♪ I move in another dimension ♪
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♪ I move in another dimension ♪
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♪ I move in another dimension ♪
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♪ And he kept on walking ♪
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♪ And he walked real slow ♪
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♪ Here is the first archer ♪
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♪ In rock 'n' roll ♪
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♪ He walked toward the palace ♪
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♪ Toward the palace of answers ♪
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♪ He took big steps ♪
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♪ He took big steps ♪
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♪ He walked seven ways ♪
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♪ He walked seven ways ♪
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♪ He freed the elements ♪
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♪ The hurricane just burst
From his hands ♪
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♪ You are my sunshine ♪
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- ♪ My only sunshine ♪
- Let's go!
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♪ You make me happy ♪
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- ♪ When skies are gray ♪
- Whoopee!
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♪ You'll never know, dear
How much I... ♪
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October, November, uh...
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Dylan might have some idea
to do something.
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Sort of like a... con man,
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carny medicine show of old,
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where you just get in a bus
and go from town--
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or a carriage, and go from town to town.
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It's like Dylan is taking us out to try
and give us each... He's presenting us.
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I mean, that's his conception.
I mean, it hasn't been made overt.
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His idea is, uh...
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to show how beautiful he is...
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...by showing how beautiful we are...
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by showing how beautiful...
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the ensemble is.
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So, it's to show the actual community.
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Which is way-- the way-- the way life is,
the way that life of poets is.
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♪ I live in an apartment ♪
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♪ Sink leaks through the walls ♪
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♪ Lower East Side full of bedbugs ♪
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♪ Junkies in the halls ♪
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♪ House been broken into ♪
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♪ Tibetan thangkas stole ♪
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♪ Speed freaks took my statues ♪
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♪ And made my love a fool ♪
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♪ Speed freaks took my statues ♪
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♪ And made my love a fool ♪
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- Do you wanna hear more or...?
- Yeah.
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I got this big audition.
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There was this party
at Allen Ginsberg's apartment.
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And that's where you met Dylan?
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Uh, yes.
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- What did you think of him?
- Uh, Dylan was fine.
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There were all these crazy people,
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all getting high and coming up to him
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and spinning faster and faster,
and Bob didn't react.
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I think he just, uh,
watched the whole thing.
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I think he liked the chaos.
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♪ I am a rake and a rambling boy ♪
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♪ There's many a city I did enjoy ♪
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- Woo!
- ♪ But now I married me a better wife ♪
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♪ And I love her dearer
Than I love my life ♪
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My idea was
to have a kind of a jug band,
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uh, for the whole show,
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something, uh, along the lines
of maybe, uh, Kweskin Jug Band...
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but that didn't happen.
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They were in the middle
of the rehearsals at SIR Studio,
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and I talked to Levy, and he asked Dylan
if it was all right for me to shoot
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B-roll of the rehearsal.
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Dylan was all right with it,
but Levy told me there was no budget.
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Because I thought that this was
really going to go somewhere,
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I took all the money that I had,
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and I paid for everything
out of my own pocket.
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- Did Bob like you?
- I don't know, who knows?
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He was--
It was like looking into a mirror.
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You either saw what you wanted to see,
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or you hated what you saw.
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I can tell you this,
back then I used to smoke,
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and I held my cigarette like this,
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you know, the European style.
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After that night at Ginsberg's,
Bob started holding it like that, too.
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That was me.
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♪ Rita May, Rita May ♪
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♪ How did you ever get that way? ♪
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♪ When'd you ever see the light? ♪
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♪ Don't you ever feel afraid? ♪
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♪ You got me burning and a-turning ♪
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♪ But I know I must be learning ♪
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♪ Rita May ♪
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♪ And I don't sense affection ♪
256
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♪ No gratitude or love ♪
257
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♪ Your loyalty is not to me ♪
258
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- ♪ But to the stars above ♪
- Yeah!
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♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
260
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♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
261
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♪ To the valley below ♪
262
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I was going
to a jazz musician friend of mine house
263
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in the Lower East Side,
264
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and I was just about to cross the street,
and a car cut me off.
265
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It was Bob.
266
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It was Dylan.
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And...
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It was never verbalized.
269
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I knew who he was, or he knew I knew.
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Just sort of passed, you know.
271
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We just played music all day
and all night.
272
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We went to The Bottom Line
and played with Muddy Waters,
273
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and we went that night
to Victoria Spivey's house.
274
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She's an old blues singer.
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And, um...
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we played music
till about six in the morning.
277
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It was really great.
278
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She wears a turtle...
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♪ She wears a turtleneck sweater ♪
280
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♪ And a nylon shoe ♪
281
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♪ She wears a turtleneck sweater ♪
282
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♪ And a nylon shoe ♪
283
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♪ There's nothing she won't say ♪
284
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♪ And there's nothing that she won't do ♪
285
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There are 52 people.
If each person asks him is he okay,
286
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it becomes a long, hard
question and answer period for him.
287
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Is the light bothering him?
288
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Is the guitar right?
289
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Does he like the lighting?
290
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Is the sound monitor okay?
291
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He's a big man,
and he knows what he wants.
292
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♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
293
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♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
294
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♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪
295
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Five ten.
296
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- Five ten?
- Yeah.
297
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So what does he do?
298
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He's a director.
299
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Theater.
300
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Theater?
301
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But that's not...
302
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That's why I'm saying it's tricky
because it's not marriage, is it?
303
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I mean, unless you actually make it--
304
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Well, I mean,
maybe marriage to the theater.
305
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But when you said marriage,
306
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I assumed you-- you meant marriage
between two people.
307
00:16:56,558 --> 00:16:57,393
- Yeah.
- Did you?
308
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Well, no, mental marriage.
309
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- Mental marriage?
- Yeah.
310
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Ah, well, that's interesting.
311
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♪ Some speak of the future ♪
312
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♪ My love, she speaks softly ♪
313
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♪ 'Cause there's no success like failure ♪
314
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♪ And failure's no success at all ♪
315
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Hey!
316
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I'm doing a-- a thing
on a tour for Rolling Stone magazine.
317
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- Yes.
- Okay?
318
00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:31,135
And-- And basically, I saw Bob leave,
319
00:17:31,593 --> 00:17:35,973
uh, after that... uh, um, the dialogue
you did with him, the marriage thing.
320
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Yes.
321
00:17:37,015 --> 00:17:40,644
And he said to one of the cameramen,
"That is hot. That was a hot scene."
322
00:17:40,728 --> 00:17:42,479
- Okay.
- Oh, I'm really flattered. I'm touched.
323
00:17:42,563 --> 00:17:45,107
Okay, now, look,
I-- I-- I just wanna know,
324
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how did-- how did it happen?
I mean, was it set up?
325
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- It happened-- No.
- Was it a set up scene?
326
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It was totally spontaneous.
327
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I was on my way to the bathroom...
328
00:17:52,740 --> 00:17:53,615
Yeah.
329
00:17:53,699 --> 00:17:57,870
...when, uh, on my way, uh,
Mel Howard introduced me to Bob Dylan.
330
00:17:57,953 --> 00:18:00,080
What-- What did you say?
And what was your point--
331
00:18:00,164 --> 00:18:02,040
- What did I say to--
- In the conversation to Bob?
332
00:18:02,124 --> 00:18:04,501
Well, it was a sort of free...
333
00:18:05,961 --> 00:18:08,005
- uh, going from one thing to another.
- Freewheeling?
334
00:18:08,088 --> 00:18:09,131
- Freewheeling.
- It wasn't--
335
00:18:09,214 --> 00:18:11,884
It wasn't meant to be
specifically-- specifically that.
336
00:18:11,967 --> 00:18:13,677
Yeah, but you started talking
about marriage.
337
00:18:13,761 --> 00:18:14,928
Out of the blue,
338
00:18:15,012 --> 00:18:17,473
- the subject of marriage came up.
- But what did you say?
339
00:18:17,556 --> 00:18:21,268
♪ Come gather 'round, fellers ♪
340
00:18:21,351 --> 00:18:26,565
♪ So young and so fine ♪
341
00:18:27,483 --> 00:18:30,694
♪ And seek not your fortune ♪
342
00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:35,199
♪ Down in the mine ♪
343
00:18:36,450 --> 00:18:38,368
♪ It will form... ♪
344
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Was the idea to
make a behind-the-scenes film of the tour?
345
00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:44,124
I think that's
what they were expecting.
346
00:18:44,208 --> 00:18:46,919
They just thought that
I was going to make it a concert film,
347
00:18:47,002 --> 00:18:49,379
but I was trying to make something
really serious out of this.
348
00:18:49,963 --> 00:18:53,217
First, what I wanted to show was
musicians working together,
349
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making music together.
350
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,512
That was them doing their job.
351
00:18:56,595 --> 00:18:57,805
That was, you know,
352
00:18:57,888 --> 00:19:01,016
that was as if I went to film
my father in his shoe store.
353
00:19:01,517 --> 00:19:02,476
Focus in on that.
354
00:19:03,644 --> 00:19:04,895
What is that, Patti?
355
00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:07,397
I seen th-- this Rimbaud book,
356
00:19:07,481 --> 00:19:09,191
and I saw this picture.
357
00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:11,944
I saw this vogue picture,
and I thought it looked like you,
358
00:19:12,027 --> 00:19:14,029
- and I thought he was a neat guy, y'know?
- Yeah?
359
00:19:14,112 --> 00:19:17,825
And I thought you were neat, so I used to,
like, pretend he was my boyfriend.
360
00:19:17,908 --> 00:19:20,369
Or if-- Or if you were.
You know, it doesn't matter, right?
361
00:19:20,452 --> 00:19:21,286
So anyway...
362
00:19:21,370 --> 00:19:22,454
What did you say?
363
00:19:22,538 --> 00:19:23,914
- What did I say?
- Yeah.
364
00:19:23,997 --> 00:19:26,708
I gave my thoughts on...
365
00:19:26,792 --> 00:19:29,503
He spoke about mental marriage.
366
00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:31,004
- When he asked me--
- Mental marriage?
367
00:19:31,088 --> 00:19:33,006
Uh, Superman takes a piece of coal,
368
00:19:33,090 --> 00:19:35,676
and he puts it in his hand,
and he starts squeezing it,
369
00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,970
and squeezing it, and squeezing it,
and squeezing it,
370
00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:39,429
and then it becomes like a diamond.
371
00:19:39,513 --> 00:19:40,472
- It's real hard.
- Yeah.
372
00:19:40,556 --> 00:19:42,307
And then, like, he drops it on the ground,
373
00:19:42,391 --> 00:19:43,642
- on the baseball diamond.
- Yeah.
374
00:19:43,725 --> 00:19:46,228
And the kids, the kids keep kicking it,
the kids keep kicking it.
375
00:19:46,311 --> 00:19:47,813
- Yeah.
- Then it goes round and round.
376
00:19:47,896 --> 00:19:49,898
And after years and years
of kids kicking it around,
377
00:19:49,982 --> 00:19:52,484
it gets smooth, but it's not...
It's just changed.
378
00:19:52,568 --> 00:19:55,445
It's still the same crystal,
but it's smooth, so it's a crystal ball.
379
00:19:55,529 --> 00:19:56,947
So it's sitting there in the middle,
380
00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:59,783
the crystal ball is sitting there
in the middle of the baseball diamond.
381
00:19:59,867 --> 00:20:01,285
- Right.
- Okay? Now you can look in.
382
00:20:05,497 --> 00:20:08,041
I hated the ristelaars...
383
00:20:08,125 --> 00:20:10,168
the, you know, the-- the facilitators.
384
00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:12,671
You know,
the-- the people hanging around him.
385
00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:15,048
People pretending that they had access,
386
00:20:15,132 --> 00:20:17,009
so that they could behave badly.
387
00:20:17,092 --> 00:20:18,677
This film was going to show
388
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,264
the counterpoint between
the... the excesses of the people
389
00:20:22,347 --> 00:20:25,225
on the tour
and the dissolution of society.
390
00:20:25,309 --> 00:20:27,477
- Come on, everybody.
- Allen!
391
00:20:27,561 --> 00:20:29,938
I wanted to show
the land of Pet Rocks
392
00:20:30,022 --> 00:20:32,399
and Super Slurpees from 7-Eleven.
393
00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:34,443
L'Amérique insolite.
394
00:20:35,527 --> 00:20:38,864
I would go on the road
with the Rolling Thunder Revue.
395
00:20:38,947 --> 00:20:40,574
Right here.
396
00:20:40,741 --> 00:20:43,368
See you Thursday.
397
00:20:45,329 --> 00:20:48,832
This is a true story.
Actually, they're all true.
398
00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:52,669
Boy. Sure hope we get to Boston on time.
399
00:21:09,853 --> 00:21:11,521
♪ I married Isis ♪
400
00:21:11,605 --> 00:21:13,106
♪ On the fifth day of May ♪
401
00:21:13,690 --> 00:21:15,525
♪ But I could not hold on ♪
402
00:21:15,984 --> 00:21:17,277
♪ To her very long ♪
403
00:21:17,819 --> 00:21:19,363
♪ So I cut off my hair ♪
404
00:21:19,863 --> 00:21:21,490
♪ And I rode straight away ♪
405
00:21:21,949 --> 00:21:23,784
♪ For the wild, unknown country ♪
406
00:21:23,867 --> 00:21:25,619
♪ Where I could not go wrong ♪
407
00:21:26,203 --> 00:21:28,205
♪ I came to a high place ♪
408
00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:30,082
♪ Of darkness and light ♪
409
00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:32,125
♪ The dividing line ran ♪
410
00:21:32,209 --> 00:21:33,835
♪ Through the center of town ♪
411
00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:36,129
♪ I hitched up my pony ♪
412
00:21:36,213 --> 00:21:38,340
♪ To a post on the right ♪
413
00:21:38,423 --> 00:21:40,092
♪ Went into a laundry ♪
414
00:21:40,175 --> 00:21:42,469
♪ To wash my clothes down ♪
415
00:21:42,552 --> 00:21:44,554
♪ A man in the corner ♪
416
00:21:44,638 --> 00:21:46,223
♪ Approached me for a match ♪
417
00:21:46,682 --> 00:21:48,350
♪ I knew right away ♪
418
00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:50,143
♪ He was not ordinary ♪
419
00:21:50,686 --> 00:21:52,354
♪ He said, "Are you looking ♪
420
00:21:52,437 --> 00:21:54,523
♪ For something easy to catch?" ♪
421
00:21:54,606 --> 00:21:56,149
♪ I said, "I got no money, man" ♪
422
00:21:56,233 --> 00:21:58,652
♪ He said, "That ain't necessary" ♪
423
00:22:15,293 --> 00:22:17,045
♪ We set out that night ♪
424
00:22:17,129 --> 00:22:18,880
♪ For the cold in the north ♪
425
00:22:19,339 --> 00:22:21,133
♪ I gave him my blanket ♪
426
00:22:21,216 --> 00:22:22,759
♪ And he gave me his word ♪
427
00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:25,012
♪ I said, "Where we goin'?" ♪
428
00:22:25,095 --> 00:22:27,347
♪ He said, "We be back by the fourth" ♪
429
00:22:27,431 --> 00:22:29,224
♪ I said, "That's the best news ♪
430
00:22:29,307 --> 00:22:31,226
♪ That I've ever heard" ♪
431
00:22:31,309 --> 00:22:33,228
♪ I was thinkin' about turquoise ♪
432
00:22:33,311 --> 00:22:35,272
♪ I was thinkin' about gold ♪
433
00:22:35,355 --> 00:22:37,190
♪ I was thinkin' about diamonds ♪
434
00:22:37,274 --> 00:22:39,401
♪ And the world's biggest necklace ♪
435
00:22:39,484 --> 00:22:41,486
♪ As we rode through the canyons ♪
436
00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:43,488
♪ Through the devilish cold ♪
437
00:22:43,572 --> 00:22:45,282
♪ I was thinkin' about Isis ♪
438
00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:47,784
♪ How she thought I was so reckless ♪
439
00:22:47,868 --> 00:22:51,413
♪ She told me, though, that one day
We would meet up again ♪
440
00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:53,832
♪ And things would be different ♪
441
00:22:53,915 --> 00:22:55,709
♪ The next time we wed ♪
442
00:22:55,792 --> 00:22:57,878
♪ If I could only just hang on ♪
443
00:22:57,961 --> 00:22:59,713
♪ And be her friend ♪
444
00:23:00,172 --> 00:23:01,757
♪ I still can't remember ♪
445
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,800
♪ All the best things she said ♪
446
00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:22,194
♪ We came to the pyramids ♪
447
00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:24,196
♪ All embedded in ice ♪
448
00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:25,781
♪ He said, "There's a body ♪
449
00:23:25,864 --> 00:23:28,158
♪ That I'm tryin' to find ♪
450
00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:30,035
♪ If I carry it out ♪
451
00:23:30,118 --> 00:23:32,370
♪ It'll bring a good price" ♪
452
00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:34,039
♪ 'Twas then that I knew ♪
453
00:23:34,122 --> 00:23:36,166
♪ What he had on his mind ♪
454
00:23:36,249 --> 00:23:38,210
♪ Well, the wind, it was howlin' ♪
455
00:23:38,293 --> 00:23:40,295
♪ And the snow was outrageous ♪
456
00:23:40,378 --> 00:23:42,214
♪ We chopped through the glades ♪
457
00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:44,299
♪ And we chopped through the dawn ♪
458
00:23:44,382 --> 00:23:46,343
♪ When he died, I was hopin' ♪
459
00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:48,386
♪ That it wasn't contagious ♪
460
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:50,430
♪ But I made up my mind ♪
461
00:23:50,514 --> 00:23:52,516
♪ That I had to get on ♪
462
00:24:09,032 --> 00:24:10,700
♪ I picked up his body ♪
463
00:24:10,784 --> 00:24:12,285
♪ And I dragged him inside ♪
464
00:24:12,744 --> 00:24:14,704
♪ Threw him down in a hole ♪
465
00:24:14,788 --> 00:24:16,456
♪ And I put back the cover ♪
466
00:24:16,998 --> 00:24:18,625
♪ I said a quick prayer ♪
467
00:24:18,708 --> 00:24:20,794
♪ Just to feel satisfied ♪
468
00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:22,546
♪ Then I went back to find Isis ♪
469
00:24:22,629 --> 00:24:24,840
♪ Just to tell her I love her ♪
470
00:24:24,923 --> 00:24:26,758
♪ She was there in the meadow ♪
471
00:24:26,842 --> 00:24:29,219
♪ Where the creek used to rise ♪
472
00:24:29,302 --> 00:24:30,846
♪ Blinded by sleep ♪
473
00:24:30,929 --> 00:24:32,931
♪ And in need of a bed ♪
474
00:24:33,014 --> 00:24:34,724
♪ I came in from the East ♪
475
00:24:34,808 --> 00:24:37,185
♪ With the sun in my eyes ♪
476
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:41,022
♪ I cursed her one time
Then I rode on ahead ♪
477
00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:43,150
♪ She said, "Where you been?" ♪
478
00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:45,110
♪ I said, "No place special" ♪
479
00:24:45,193 --> 00:24:48,572
♪ She said, "You look different"
I said, "Well, I guess" ♪
480
00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:50,699
♪ She said, "You been gone" ♪
481
00:24:50,782 --> 00:24:54,536
♪ I said, "That's only natural"
She said, "You gonna stay?" ♪
482
00:24:54,619 --> 00:24:57,205
♪ I said, "If you want me to, yeah!" ♪
483
00:25:13,638 --> 00:25:15,557
♪ Isis, oh, Isis ♪
484
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,475
♪ You a mystical child ♪
485
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,477
♪ What drives me to you ♪
486
00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:21,521
♪ Is what drives me insane ♪
487
00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:23,523
♪ I still can remember ♪
488
00:25:23,607 --> 00:25:25,650
♪ The way that you smiled ♪
489
00:25:25,734 --> 00:25:27,569
♪ On the fifth day of May ♪
490
00:25:27,652 --> 00:25:30,071
♪ In the drizzlin' rain ♪
491
00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:02,437
Hi, Bob.
492
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,190
- Hi, what you guys want? An interview?
- Sure.
493
00:26:05,273 --> 00:26:07,275
- Ah, wh--
- How was it, Bob?
494
00:26:07,776 --> 00:26:08,902
How was what?
495
00:26:10,362 --> 00:26:12,530
What did Bob say about the tour?
496
00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:14,741
I never asked him
anything because, you know,
497
00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:16,534
he wouldn't answer direct questions.
498
00:26:16,618 --> 00:26:18,453
Dylan, you're beautiful.
499
00:26:19,955 --> 00:26:22,290
Bob!
500
00:26:23,667 --> 00:26:24,918
A legend is in town,
501
00:26:25,001 --> 00:26:27,545
and it's not just another...
rock 'n' roll show.
502
00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:29,881
I mean, it's rock 'n' roll,
but it's a special event.
503
00:26:29,965 --> 00:26:32,259
Where rock 'n' roll
has four or five legends,
504
00:26:32,342 --> 00:26:35,387
this is one of them, and maybe
the biggest one at the present time.
505
00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:48,650
Not to brag, but Rolling Thunder
was kinda my idea, you know.
506
00:26:48,733 --> 00:26:50,986
Bob had done that tour
with The Band a few years back,
507
00:26:51,069 --> 00:26:52,946
and that was super successful,
508
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:56,324
and then Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
were filling 50,000 seats a night.
509
00:26:56,908 --> 00:26:59,661
And Zeppelin was huge.
I mean, there was money everywhere.
510
00:26:59,744 --> 00:27:02,580
You know, all you had to do
was bend down, pick it up.
511
00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:06,710
So, I had an idea that some kind of revue
with Bob would be a gold mine.
512
00:27:07,294 --> 00:27:09,004
So I went off and pitched the idea,
513
00:27:09,087 --> 00:27:11,172
and a bunch of local promoters
were interested.
514
00:27:11,673 --> 00:27:14,676
And then by the time I was done,
I ended up with 15 headliners.
515
00:27:16,845 --> 00:27:19,472
♪ I'm gonna have to go to college
'Cause you are... ♪
516
00:27:19,556 --> 00:27:21,516
Now you've asked for it!
517
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,227
We took a big risk. And, uh, you know,
518
00:27:24,311 --> 00:27:27,605
you had to put up the money,
get everybody, you know, hotels, catering,
519
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:29,399
cars, all this stuff, buses.
520
00:27:29,941 --> 00:27:33,653
And you had to keep all these guys happy
and, you know, focused.
521
00:27:33,737 --> 00:27:37,365
And so... And that was, you loaded up
before you went out on the road.
522
00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:40,201
Then you hope you got paid.
And you hope the show worked.
523
00:27:41,619 --> 00:27:43,621
Did you have any interaction with Bob?
524
00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:46,124
The only time I saw Bob
was when he was onstage
525
00:27:46,207 --> 00:27:47,459
or driving the bus.
526
00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:49,544
You know? Bob kept to himself.
527
00:27:49,627 --> 00:27:51,880
How did it become
"Rolling Thunder Revue"?
528
00:27:51,963 --> 00:27:54,299
Well, I asked Bob.
He said originally he was gonna call it
529
00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:55,633
Montezuma's Revue,
530
00:27:55,717 --> 00:27:57,052
but then he said he was home,
531
00:27:57,135 --> 00:28:00,138
and he was just kind of trying
to think of a name for the tour,
532
00:28:00,221 --> 00:28:02,640
when all of a sudden in the sky,
he heard, "Boom!"
533
00:28:02,724 --> 00:28:05,018
And then, from left to right,
534
00:28:05,101 --> 00:28:06,186
punctuating the sky,
535
00:28:06,269 --> 00:28:07,562
"Boom, boom, boom, boom!"
536
00:28:08,021 --> 00:28:10,607
So he said,
"Hey, let's call it 'Rolling Thunder.'"
537
00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:12,150
So before we even left,
538
00:28:12,233 --> 00:28:14,110
Chesley Millikin,
who was on the tour, says,
539
00:28:14,194 --> 00:28:16,488
"Bob, you know what 'rolling thunder'
means to the Indians?"
540
00:28:16,571 --> 00:28:19,657
And he goes, "What, man?"
And Chesley goes, "Speaking truth."
541
00:28:19,741 --> 00:28:22,452
And then Bob goes,
"I'm glad to hear that, man."
542
00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:25,288
Of course, later on we found out
that Rolling Thunder was actually
543
00:28:25,372 --> 00:28:28,208
the code name for, uh,
Nixon's bombing of Cambodia.
544
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:32,545
And that Guam, the backup band,
was the base that, uh, they took off from.
545
00:28:32,629 --> 00:28:34,089
So, who knows what the real story is.
546
00:28:34,172 --> 00:28:37,592
This is the leaflet for a concert
they're having in town next week.
547
00:28:38,385 --> 00:28:41,304
Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and Jack Elliott.
548
00:28:41,388 --> 00:28:42,931
Right in the Civic Center.
549
00:28:43,014 --> 00:28:45,183
You know me,
I'm too old for that kind of stuff.
550
00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:46,393
Oh, well.
551
00:28:47,644 --> 00:28:48,770
- Okay.
- So...
552
00:28:48,853 --> 00:28:50,605
when did you first hear about Bob?
553
00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:54,317
This is like a... a...
It sounds like a fairy tale,
554
00:28:54,859 --> 00:28:57,404
but all... a lot of the...
555
00:28:57,487 --> 00:29:00,698
It doesn't happen continuously
for more than a few days at a time,
556
00:29:00,782 --> 00:29:02,617
but a lot of my life,
557
00:29:03,451 --> 00:29:05,995
I feel like I really am leading
a charmed life,
558
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:10,333
because miracles start happening
in threes or fours.
559
00:29:10,417 --> 00:29:12,794
One thing I could
tell you about Ramblin' Jack,
560
00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:15,463
he's more of a sailor than a singer.
561
00:29:15,964 --> 00:29:20,176
He can tie a bowline, a clove hitch,
and he could tie a rolling hitch,
562
00:29:20,844 --> 00:29:21,970
all blindfolded.
563
00:29:22,053 --> 00:29:24,389
If you're ever on a boat or sailing ship,
564
00:29:25,932 --> 00:29:29,644
you would rather have Ramblin' Jack there
as a sailor than a singer.
565
00:29:30,145 --> 00:29:33,481
♪ Now, London is a fine town
For sailors ♪
566
00:29:34,315 --> 00:29:38,194
♪ California and back to France, so... ♪
567
00:29:38,278 --> 00:29:40,780
Which would you rather be,
the Pilgrims or the Indians?
568
00:29:40,864 --> 00:29:42,991
- Pilgrims.
- Why the Pilgrims?
569
00:29:43,491 --> 00:29:44,784
Why do you wanna be the Pilgrims?
570
00:29:44,868 --> 00:29:47,245
'Cause the Pilgrims all land
and they turn into wax dolls,
571
00:29:47,328 --> 00:29:49,622
and they're wax dolls
for the rest of the universe.
572
00:29:49,706 --> 00:29:50,999
So the Indians.
573
00:29:51,082 --> 00:29:54,461
Well, you know, the Indians, that's true--
Well, we're all wax dolls, so...
574
00:29:55,044 --> 00:29:59,424
The first concert
will take place in Plymouth...
575
00:30:00,216 --> 00:30:04,220
Uh, where the, uh, Pilgrims
stepped off their Mayflower.
576
00:30:04,721 --> 00:30:06,806
We're... as if we're-- we're Pilgrims.
577
00:30:06,890 --> 00:30:08,725
Pilgrims in the sense of searchers,
578
00:30:09,267 --> 00:30:11,269
looking for the, uh, kingdom of a nation
579
00:30:12,020 --> 00:30:13,771
with maybe a different intention.
580
00:30:14,272 --> 00:30:15,899
Making America a kingdom of poetry,
581
00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:17,108
a nation of poetry.
582
00:30:30,997 --> 00:30:33,333
Well, look at this. Lookit.
583
00:30:33,416 --> 00:30:35,084
Have you ever heard of Bob Dylan?
584
00:30:35,168 --> 00:30:37,545
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I've heard of Bob Dylan, Joan Baez,
585
00:30:37,629 --> 00:30:38,463
Bob Neuwirth.
586
00:30:39,339 --> 00:30:42,759
...performing
at Memorial Auditorium. Anybody?
587
00:30:43,635 --> 00:30:44,719
Pass 'em out.
588
00:30:45,595 --> 00:30:47,764
♪ I left Rome ♪
589
00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:51,726
♪ And pulled into Brussels ♪
590
00:30:53,645 --> 00:30:55,480
♪ On a plane ride ♪
591
00:30:55,563 --> 00:30:58,483
♪ So bumpy that I almost cried ♪
592
00:31:01,277 --> 00:31:03,571
♪ Clergymen in uniform ♪
593
00:31:03,655 --> 00:31:06,407
♪ Young girls pullin' muscles ♪
594
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:10,203
♪ Well, it sure has been ♪
595
00:31:10,828 --> 00:31:13,164
♪ One hell of a ride ♪
596
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,585
♪ Newspapermen ♪
597
00:31:18,461 --> 00:31:21,297
♪ Eating candy, ooh ♪
598
00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:25,260
♪ They had to be held back ♪
599
00:31:25,343 --> 00:31:27,387
♪ By big police ♪
600
00:31:30,014 --> 00:31:34,811
♪ Someday
Everything is gonna be different ♪
601
00:31:36,437 --> 00:31:42,860
♪ When I paint that masterpiece ♪
602
00:31:44,362 --> 00:31:45,905
♪ Train wrecks ♪
603
00:31:45,989 --> 00:31:49,367
♪ Running through the back of my memory ♪
604
00:31:51,035 --> 00:31:53,204
♪ When I ran on the hilltop ♪
605
00:31:53,288 --> 00:31:55,999
♪ Following a pack of wild geese ♪
606
00:31:58,585 --> 00:32:03,590
♪ Someday
Everything is gonna be beautiful ♪
607
00:32:04,966 --> 00:32:11,097
♪ When I paint that masterpiece ♪
608
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,642
♪ When I paint ♪
609
00:32:15,268 --> 00:32:22,150
♪ That masterpiece ♪
610
00:32:30,116 --> 00:32:32,160
Any idea why he would wear a mask?
611
00:32:32,243 --> 00:32:35,496
Are you being funny?
612
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:37,332
Well, it was kind of a leading question.
613
00:32:37,415 --> 00:32:39,792
Yeah, okay. Well, get to the point.
614
00:32:40,627 --> 00:32:43,546
We didn't have enough masks on that tour.
615
00:32:45,381 --> 00:32:47,717
We should have had masks for everybody.
616
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,552
When somebody's wearing a mask,
617
00:32:49,636 --> 00:32:51,638
uh, he's gonna tell you the truth.
618
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:53,556
Uh...
619
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,768
when he's not wearing a mask,
it's highly unlikely.
620
00:32:56,851 --> 00:32:59,520
Shocking Blue!
621
00:33:04,484 --> 00:33:07,153
♪ Her weapons were her crystal eyes ♪
622
00:33:08,237 --> 00:33:10,448
♪ Making every man mad ♪
623
00:33:11,866 --> 00:33:14,369
I'd been filming Shocking Blue.
624
00:33:14,452 --> 00:33:16,954
Their song "Venus" was
at the top of the charts.
625
00:33:17,455 --> 00:33:19,499
- Wow!
- And we needed more footage.
626
00:33:19,582 --> 00:33:21,959
And at the time, I liked psychedelics.
627
00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:25,254
Oh, LSD was my drug of choice.
628
00:33:25,338 --> 00:33:27,757
You know, it was trans-- transformative.
629
00:33:28,508 --> 00:33:32,095
And I filmed a lot of newspeople
and things from the TV,
630
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:35,098
like camera right on the TV,
like kinescoped,
631
00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:38,434
and I cut these serious things,
these speeches, with the rock 'n' roll.
632
00:33:38,518 --> 00:33:41,104
♪ A goddess on a mountaintop ♪
633
00:33:42,146 --> 00:33:44,774
♪ Was burning like a silver flame ♪
634
00:33:45,650 --> 00:33:47,402
♪ Well, I'm your Venus ♪
635
00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:52,448
- ♪ I'm your fire at your desire ♪
- It was brood en spelen, uh...
636
00:33:52,532 --> 00:33:54,534
You know, like, "bread and circus."
637
00:33:55,368 --> 00:33:57,704
I made an indictment of popular culture.
638
00:33:58,287 --> 00:34:01,165
I called it "Burning Like A Silver Flame."
639
00:34:01,958 --> 00:34:04,085
It played the local art film circuit,
640
00:34:04,544 --> 00:34:07,588
uh, and it started to have
a life of its own.
641
00:34:07,672 --> 00:34:10,550
Um, later, when I won
the Heinrich Greif Award,
642
00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:12,009
America came calling.
643
00:34:31,362 --> 00:34:32,697
Van Dorp,
644
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:34,532
I hadn't even heard of him before,
645
00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:37,493
but, uh, he seemed like an okay guy.
646
00:34:37,577 --> 00:34:38,953
I liked his film history.
647
00:34:39,036 --> 00:34:43,624
He did some film work
at Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.
648
00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:47,545
His idea was to, uh, make this film...
649
00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:52,258
appear to be like old newsreels
we used to see at movie theaters...
650
00:34:52,925 --> 00:34:53,801
growing up,
651
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,929
which I thought was a splendid idea.
652
00:34:58,055 --> 00:35:01,225
Van Dorp, I wanted to tell you something.
653
00:35:03,186 --> 00:35:07,982
I thought Sam would be perfect
for van Dorp to, uh, collaborate with,
654
00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:12,528
because Sam's got
that special knowledge of the underworld
655
00:35:13,988 --> 00:35:16,407
that van Dorp didn't seem
to have a clue about.
656
00:35:17,825 --> 00:35:20,536
I think I asked him once,
"Sam, how you write all those plays?"
657
00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:21,579
And he said...
658
00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:23,581
"Man," he said,
659
00:35:25,249 --> 00:35:27,084
"It's like I commune with the dead."
660
00:35:29,003 --> 00:35:30,296
I said, "Yeah, yeah,
661
00:35:30,838 --> 00:35:34,342
uh, you'd have to
to write plays like that."
662
00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:37,678
And I asked him if he wanted
to, uh, write for, uh,
663
00:35:38,513 --> 00:35:41,265
this movie
that this guy van Dorp was making.
664
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:46,896
And he went to meet with van Dorp,
and then he came back, and he said, uh...
665
00:35:46,979 --> 00:35:48,815
he didn't know where the guy
was coming from,
666
00:35:48,898 --> 00:35:51,108
but if I wanted him to do it, he would.
667
00:35:51,192 --> 00:35:53,611
So, that's how Sam got involved.
668
00:35:54,195 --> 00:35:56,447
I was living
in Homestead Valley, California,
669
00:35:57,073 --> 00:36:01,786
running a horse boarding farm.
670
00:36:02,829 --> 00:36:06,916
It was a little bit unclear
what-- what exactly he wanted me to do.
671
00:36:06,999 --> 00:36:10,127
I was like a screenwriter
or writer for hire, you know.
672
00:36:10,211 --> 00:36:12,588
So, sure. So, I joined up.
673
00:36:13,381 --> 00:36:16,926
I was just kind of there
for the ride, basically,
674
00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:18,886
and-- and as an observer
675
00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:23,266
and trying to make sense of something,
you know.
676
00:36:27,228 --> 00:36:30,731
New England was just
experiencing the backbone
677
00:36:30,815 --> 00:36:32,817
of that economic fallout,
678
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:36,612
you know, way back then,
it was, you know, desolate...
679
00:36:36,696 --> 00:36:39,866
Uh, really, really difficult
economic times, you know.
680
00:36:39,949 --> 00:36:43,369
People suffering behind that, you know.
681
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:47,290
Rock 'n' roll was some kind of, a...
682
00:36:47,373 --> 00:36:49,208
I don't know,
a kind of medicine or something.
683
00:36:49,292 --> 00:36:51,085
Do you have tickets for the concert?
684
00:36:51,168 --> 00:36:53,212
- Yeah.
- How come he's coming here?
685
00:36:53,296 --> 00:36:55,923
I know, how come he picked
such a small place?
686
00:36:56,007 --> 00:36:58,801
Tickets are on sale at the collis--
the little Plymouth auditorium.
687
00:37:01,429 --> 00:37:03,764
Wasn't that the year
of the bicentennial, also?
688
00:37:04,223 --> 00:37:05,766
The bicentennial,
689
00:37:05,850 --> 00:37:07,518
particularly in the little towns,
you know,
690
00:37:07,602 --> 00:37:09,103
they didn't give a shit, you know.
691
00:37:09,186 --> 00:37:11,480
"What is the bicen--"
You know what I mean?
692
00:37:11,564 --> 00:37:15,151
They-- They certainly weren't celebrating
the-- the birth of America. You know?
693
00:37:15,234 --> 00:37:18,404
- We love you, Bobby!
- Yeah!
694
00:37:20,531 --> 00:37:24,452
♪ How many roads must a man walk down ♪
695
00:37:25,745 --> 00:37:28,497
♪ Before you call him a man? ♪
696
00:37:30,082 --> 00:37:33,878
♪ How many seas must a white dove sail ♪
697
00:37:34,795 --> 00:37:37,882
♪ Before she sleeps in the sand? ♪
698
00:37:39,508 --> 00:37:43,512
♪ How many times
Must the cannonballs fly ♪
699
00:37:44,138 --> 00:37:46,974
♪ Before they're forever banned? ♪
700
00:37:48,392 --> 00:37:50,519
♪ The answer, my friend ♪
701
00:37:50,603 --> 00:37:52,897
♪ Is blowin' in the wind ♪
702
00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:56,192
♪ The answer is blowin' in the wind ♪
703
00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:04,492
It always had this feeling
of-- of almost a circus atmosphere,
704
00:38:04,575 --> 00:38:06,077
a dog and pony show sort of thing.
705
00:38:06,827 --> 00:38:08,913
It's the first song
I ever heard Woody Guthrie sing
706
00:38:08,996 --> 00:38:10,498
on a little radio station.
707
00:38:11,666 --> 00:38:13,084
He was telling a story...
708
00:38:15,294 --> 00:38:18,756
about traveling across the country
on freight trains,
709
00:38:18,839 --> 00:38:20,508
and he had a fiddle with him...
710
00:38:22,426 --> 00:38:24,345
in a violin case.
711
00:38:25,846 --> 00:38:27,682
Every time the train would stop,
712
00:38:28,766 --> 00:38:32,812
police would come on and look through,
they'd see him with that violin case...
713
00:38:35,439 --> 00:38:36,565
make him open it up,
714
00:38:38,275 --> 00:38:39,402
and look inside.
715
00:38:40,236 --> 00:38:41,988
They was looking for an outlaw...
716
00:38:43,072 --> 00:38:44,782
named Pretty Boy Floyd,
717
00:38:45,533 --> 00:38:49,370
who was also traveling with a violin case.
718
00:38:55,084 --> 00:39:01,799
♪ If you'll gather 'round me, children ♪
719
00:39:04,093 --> 00:39:09,557
♪ A story I will tell
About Pretty Boy Floyd, an outlaw ♪
720
00:39:12,059 --> 00:39:14,645
♪ Oklahoma knew him well ♪
721
00:39:17,064 --> 00:39:19,483
I do recall sort of looking over,
722
00:39:19,567 --> 00:39:23,195
from a distance, Jack Elliott's shoulder
as he did his solo set.
723
00:39:24,238 --> 00:39:26,407
You know, that was something
so new to me, and...
724
00:39:27,616 --> 00:39:28,784
gee, it seemed so authentic,
725
00:39:28,868 --> 00:39:33,789
I had no idea he was, you know,
a Jewish dentist's son from Brooklyn.
726
00:39:33,873 --> 00:39:36,876
You know, you could've knocked me over
with a feather when I found that out.
727
00:39:36,959 --> 00:39:39,170
Ramblin' Jack!
Take a bow, Jack.
728
00:39:42,131 --> 00:39:44,133
I got another friend
for you to meet now.
729
00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:58,856
They-- They had
an entity about them, you know.
730
00:39:58,939 --> 00:40:00,524
It wasn't stardom.
731
00:40:00,608 --> 00:40:01,942
It wasn't people were looking at,
732
00:40:02,026 --> 00:40:03,819
"Oh, there's Dylan and there's Joan Baez."
733
00:40:03,903 --> 00:40:05,613
No, they were looking at a band.
734
00:40:06,113 --> 00:40:08,199
♪ Well, I ride on a mail train, baby ♪
735
00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:11,327
♪ Can't buy a thrill ♪
736
00:40:14,538 --> 00:40:16,957
♪ I been up all night, baby ♪
737
00:40:17,041 --> 00:40:19,585
♪ Leanin' on a windowsill ♪
738
00:40:23,005 --> 00:40:25,591
Once again, good night
on behalf of the Rolling Thunder Revue.
739
00:40:25,674 --> 00:40:27,968
We thank you for coming.
Good night. Go in peace.
740
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,912
And particularly with those songs
741
00:40:54,995 --> 00:40:58,874
that had this kind of saga element
about 'em, you know,
742
00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:03,212
it had a rejuvenating effect, I think,
you know, it was very exhilarating.
743
00:41:03,295 --> 00:41:09,051
It was a feeling of exhilaration,
of-- of-- of being alive.
744
00:41:09,135 --> 00:41:11,971
It... That sounds corny,
but it's true, you know.
745
00:41:13,305 --> 00:41:14,849
Take, uh, Shakespeare, Will.
746
00:41:14,932 --> 00:41:18,185
He grew up
in, uh, uh, Stratford-on-Avon,
747
00:41:18,269 --> 00:41:20,729
you know, where the...
where these rivers cross,
748
00:41:20,813 --> 00:41:23,899
and it was on the way outskirts of London.
749
00:41:24,358 --> 00:41:27,236
And these troubadours and vagabonds
750
00:41:27,319 --> 00:41:33,159
and carnival people from all over
were coming into London to perform.
751
00:41:33,242 --> 00:41:36,453
And they would stop
at this crossroads of these rivers.
752
00:41:36,537 --> 00:41:41,417
And as a kid, he's seeing this,
and then he writes those fucking plays.
753
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,210
You know?
754
00:41:44,545 --> 00:41:46,672
That's... extraordinary.
755
00:41:46,755 --> 00:41:49,592
You know,
that somebody is charged up like that
756
00:41:49,675 --> 00:41:52,887
from something passing
through their lives, you know.
757
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:55,472
- Let me ask you a question.
- Sure.
758
00:41:56,515 --> 00:41:58,976
What were you gonna do
on Halloween night?
759
00:41:59,059 --> 00:42:01,145
What was I gonna do on Halloween night?
760
00:42:01,896 --> 00:42:03,355
Just get a buzz on.
761
00:42:05,441 --> 00:42:06,692
Nothing else to do.
762
00:42:07,526 --> 00:42:09,361
Yep, just party.
763
00:42:13,824 --> 00:42:16,869
♪ Where have you been
My blue-eyed son? ♪
764
00:42:17,578 --> 00:42:20,956
♪ Where have you been
My darling young one? ♪
765
00:42:23,626 --> 00:42:27,213
♪ I've stumbled on the side
Of twelve misty mountains ♪
766
00:42:27,713 --> 00:42:31,425
♪ Walked and I've crawled
On six crooked highways ♪
767
00:42:31,508 --> 00:42:34,511
♪ Been in the middle
Of seven sad forests ♪
768
00:42:35,095 --> 00:42:38,307
♪ Been out in front
Of a dozen dead oceans ♪
769
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:41,477
♪ Been ten thousand miles
In the mouth of a graveyard ♪
770
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,645
♪ And it's a hard ♪
771
00:42:43,395 --> 00:42:44,939
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
772
00:42:45,022 --> 00:42:46,482
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
773
00:42:47,149 --> 00:42:48,817
♪ And it's a hard ♪
774
00:42:48,901 --> 00:42:51,904
♪ Well, it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
775
00:42:55,241 --> 00:42:58,452
♪ What did you see
My blue-eyed son? ♪
776
00:42:58,535 --> 00:43:02,665
♪ What did you see
My darling young one? ♪
777
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:07,962
♪ Saw a newborn baby
With wild wolves all around it ♪
778
00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:11,632
♪ I saw a highway of diamonds
With nobody on it ♪
779
00:43:12,091 --> 00:43:15,594
♪ Saw a black branch
With blood that kept drippin' ♪
780
00:43:15,678 --> 00:43:18,847
♪ Saw a room full of men
With their hammers bleedin' ♪
781
00:43:19,348 --> 00:43:22,643
♪ Saw a white ladder
Covered in water ♪
782
00:43:22,726 --> 00:43:26,563
♪ Saw ten thousand talkers
Whose tongues are all broken ♪
783
00:43:26,647 --> 00:43:29,608
♪ Guns and sharp swords
In the hands of young children ♪
784
00:43:29,692 --> 00:43:30,901
♪ And it's a hard ♪
785
00:43:31,568 --> 00:43:32,861
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
786
00:43:33,404 --> 00:43:34,697
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
787
00:43:35,281 --> 00:43:36,907
♪ And it's a hard ♪
788
00:43:36,991 --> 00:43:39,952
♪ Oh, it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
789
00:43:43,330 --> 00:43:46,208
♪ What did you hear
My blue-eyed son? ♪
790
00:43:46,917 --> 00:43:50,337
♪ What did you hear
My darling young one? ♪
791
00:43:52,798 --> 00:43:56,343
♪ Heard the sound of a thunder
That roared out a warnin' ♪
792
00:43:56,427 --> 00:43:59,847
♪ Heard the roar of a wave
Could drown the whole world ♪
793
00:44:00,306 --> 00:44:03,726
♪ One person starved
I heard many people laughin' ♪
794
00:44:03,809 --> 00:44:07,271
♪ Heard the song of a poet
Who died in the gutter ♪
795
00:44:07,354 --> 00:44:10,566
♪ Heard the sound of a clown
Crying in the alley ♪
796
00:44:10,649 --> 00:44:12,192
- ♪ And it's a hard ♪
- Yeah!
797
00:44:12,276 --> 00:44:14,028
♪ And it's a hard ♪
798
00:44:14,111 --> 00:44:15,863
♪ And it's a hard ♪
799
00:44:15,946 --> 00:44:17,614
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
800
00:44:17,698 --> 00:44:20,826
♪ And it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
801
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:26,915
♪ Who did you meet
My blue-eyed son? ♪
802
00:44:27,499 --> 00:44:32,087
♪ Who did you meet
My darling young one? ♪
803
00:44:33,630 --> 00:44:36,467
♪ Met a young child
Beside a dead pony ♪
804
00:44:37,009 --> 00:44:40,137
♪ Met a white man
Who walked a black dog ♪
805
00:44:40,596 --> 00:44:43,932
♪ Met one woman
Whose body was burning ♪
806
00:44:44,016 --> 00:44:47,394
♪ Met a young girl
She gave me a rainbow ♪
807
00:44:47,478 --> 00:44:51,106
♪ I met one man
Wounded in love ♪
808
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:54,151
♪ Met another man
Wounded in hatred ♪
809
00:44:54,234 --> 00:44:55,444
♪ And it's a hard ♪
810
00:44:55,903 --> 00:44:57,613
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
811
00:44:57,696 --> 00:44:59,365
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
812
00:44:59,448 --> 00:45:01,200
♪ And it's a hard ♪
813
00:45:01,283 --> 00:45:04,244
♪ And it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
814
00:45:35,901 --> 00:45:38,862
♪ What'll you do now
My blue-eyed son? ♪
815
00:45:39,446 --> 00:45:43,075
♪ What'll you do now
My darling young one? ♪
816
00:45:45,202 --> 00:45:48,455
♪ I'm goin' back out
When the rain starts a-fallin' ♪
817
00:45:48,914 --> 00:45:52,084
♪ Walk to the depths
Of the deepest dark forest ♪
818
00:45:52,167 --> 00:45:55,587
♪ Where the people are many
And their hands are all empty ♪
819
00:45:55,671 --> 00:45:59,133
♪ Where the pellets of poison
Are flooding their waters ♪
820
00:45:59,216 --> 00:46:02,553
♪ Where the home in the valley
Meets the damp, dirty prison ♪
821
00:46:02,636 --> 00:46:06,056
♪ Where the executioner's face
Is always well-hidden ♪
822
00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:09,726
♪ Where the hunger is ugly
Where souls are forgotten ♪
823
00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:13,313
♪ Where black is the color
None is the number ♪
824
00:46:13,397 --> 00:46:16,900
♪ And I'll tell it and think it
And speak it and breathe it ♪
825
00:46:16,984 --> 00:46:20,487
♪ Reflect from the mountain
So all souls can see it ♪
826
00:46:20,571 --> 00:46:23,782
♪ Then I'll stand on the ocean
Until I start sinkin' ♪
827
00:46:23,866 --> 00:46:27,077
♪ But I'll know my song well
Before I start singin' ♪
828
00:46:27,161 --> 00:46:28,203
♪ And it's a hard ♪
829
00:46:28,704 --> 00:46:30,414
♪ And it's a hard ♪
830
00:46:30,497 --> 00:46:32,249
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
831
00:46:32,332 --> 00:46:33,959
♪ And it's a hard ♪
832
00:46:34,042 --> 00:46:36,587
♪ It's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
833
00:47:15,626 --> 00:47:17,127
- Hello?
- Bob?
834
00:47:17,211 --> 00:47:18,337
- Yeah.
- This is Larry.
835
00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:20,547
- Larry, how you doing?
- You got a minute?
836
00:47:20,631 --> 00:47:22,633
I gotta do a story in an hour,
837
00:47:22,716 --> 00:47:25,135
and I just need
about two or three paragraphs.
838
00:47:26,136 --> 00:47:27,304
- Okay.
- Are you up?
839
00:47:27,387 --> 00:47:28,639
Yeah, sort of.
840
00:47:34,102 --> 00:47:36,730
What do you-- Why don't
you just talk about the music, okay?
841
00:47:36,813 --> 00:47:38,023
What do you wanna know?
842
00:47:38,106 --> 00:47:40,192
I've never seen you
so fuckin' great onstage.
843
00:47:40,275 --> 00:47:42,569
I've never seen you so loose. How come?
844
00:47:43,570 --> 00:47:46,740
Jesus Christ, you really got me
early in the morning, I can't even think.
845
00:47:46,823 --> 00:47:48,700
Uh...
846
00:47:48,784 --> 00:47:51,828
Well, it's just the element
I work best in, you know?
847
00:47:51,912 --> 00:47:53,372
You seen those Italian...
848
00:47:53,455 --> 00:47:55,582
those Italian troupes
that go around in Italy,
849
00:47:55,666 --> 00:47:57,584
- those Italian street theaters...
- Yeah.
850
00:47:57,668 --> 00:48:00,170
The wagon, the wagon
troupes, Commedia dell'arte?
851
00:48:00,254 --> 00:48:01,296
Yeah, right.
852
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:03,840
This is kind of an extension
of that, only musically.
853
00:48:03,924 --> 00:48:05,884
- Music Commedia dell'arte?
- Yeah.
854
00:48:05,968 --> 00:48:06,885
Come on, Red!
855
00:48:06,969 --> 00:48:08,095
Riva!
856
00:48:08,178 --> 00:48:09,638
- Jane!
- Jane!
857
00:48:10,222 --> 00:48:11,682
Get it, Merty!
858
00:48:11,765 --> 00:48:14,142
If somebody told you Bob Dylan
was coming to Providence,
859
00:48:14,226 --> 00:48:17,062
you probably wouldn't believe them,
but he is, along with Joan Baez,
860
00:48:17,145 --> 00:48:19,231
Ramblin' Jack Elliott, and Bob Neuwirth,
861
00:48:19,773 --> 00:48:24,444
and it's called the Rolling Thunder Revue
at the Providence Civic Center, Tuesday...
862
00:48:24,528 --> 00:48:26,029
You'd book the venues,
863
00:48:26,113 --> 00:48:28,657
make deals with
each of the local promoters,
864
00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:30,826
and then you'd show up.
865
00:48:30,909 --> 00:48:33,120
And, you know,
you'd have a deal for the gate.
866
00:48:33,203 --> 00:48:34,454
And, you know,
867
00:48:34,538 --> 00:48:36,540
hopefully everything would go out,
would go well,
868
00:48:36,623 --> 00:48:38,041
and everybody'd make a little money.
869
00:48:38,125 --> 00:48:40,335
Hey, man, it wasn't your door
and you weren't invited.
870
00:48:40,419 --> 00:48:43,130
- Hey, don't yell at me, all right?
- Oh, I am yelling at ya.
871
00:48:43,213 --> 00:48:45,007
- Okay.
- Go get your cop,
872
00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:46,675
- so you can get some fuckin' help.
- Okay.
873
00:48:46,758 --> 00:48:49,511
The overall promoter
was a longtime friend of Bob's
874
00:48:49,595 --> 00:48:50,512
and a fishmonger.
875
00:48:50,596 --> 00:48:52,514
I mean, he never had managed
a tour before,
876
00:48:52,598 --> 00:48:53,849
let alone one of this size.
877
00:48:54,391 --> 00:48:56,351
It's bad for your,
uh, high blood pressure.
878
00:48:56,435 --> 00:48:58,520
- Yeah, okay.
- Bad for your high blood pressure.
879
00:48:58,604 --> 00:49:00,731
- Read him some poetry, Allen.
- Anything you wanna say...
880
00:49:00,814 --> 00:49:02,858
So he was out of his element
and underprepared,
881
00:49:02,941 --> 00:49:04,359
and he wasn't very well-liked on the tour.
882
00:49:04,901 --> 00:49:08,363
Then tell him the ushers left.
Tell him-- Tell him we're framing it.
883
00:49:08,447 --> 00:49:09,948
- Hi, Barry.
- Nice.
884
00:49:11,658 --> 00:49:14,328
This guy, Barry Imhoff,
was his second-in-command,
885
00:49:14,411 --> 00:49:16,121
and he'd worked for Bill Graham for years,
886
00:49:16,204 --> 00:49:18,123
but just prior to Rolling Thunder
887
00:49:18,206 --> 00:49:20,626
had got out on his own
and started Zebra Productions.
888
00:49:20,709 --> 00:49:24,296
And this was one of, you know,
if not exactly, his first tour.
889
00:49:24,379 --> 00:49:26,423
What kind of jobs
would the promoter do?
890
00:49:26,506 --> 00:49:28,967
I did whatever needed to get done.
891
00:49:29,051 --> 00:49:31,762
So one day,
you're delivering pizza to the band,
892
00:49:31,845 --> 00:49:32,804
and the next day,
893
00:49:32,888 --> 00:49:35,265
I'm... got a bag full of $15,000,
894
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:37,768
and I'm walking through a parking lot
looking over my shoulder,
895
00:49:37,851 --> 00:49:40,228
thinking everybody knows
exactly what I'm doing.
896
00:49:40,312 --> 00:49:43,357
Well, you did what you had to do.
Some things we don't talk about.
897
00:49:47,235 --> 00:49:50,072
My mom wanted to go see this tour.
898
00:49:50,656 --> 00:49:54,868
Now, you know, nobody wants
to go to a concert with their mom.
899
00:49:55,369 --> 00:49:58,205
Especially when they're 19 years old.
900
00:49:58,872 --> 00:50:02,709
So, rebelliously,
I-- I wore a KISS T-shirt.
901
00:50:03,460 --> 00:50:06,588
So, I don't know which one of us
was more embarrassed,
902
00:50:06,672 --> 00:50:08,674
whether it was me or my mom.
903
00:50:08,757 --> 00:50:10,676
And we went to this concert.
904
00:50:11,176 --> 00:50:12,636
We're trying to get in,
905
00:50:13,178 --> 00:50:15,097
and the guy's giving us
kind of a hard time
906
00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:18,308
and looking at our tickets and the thing,
and we can't get in...
907
00:50:18,392 --> 00:50:21,103
And then, this guy comes walking up,
908
00:50:22,270 --> 00:50:24,856
and he doesn't have tickets,
and he tries to get in.
909
00:50:24,940 --> 00:50:26,692
And the cop at the door
is not letting him in,
910
00:50:26,775 --> 00:50:27,984
and not letting him in.
911
00:50:28,068 --> 00:50:30,404
And so, finally, like,
a bunch of people come out,
912
00:50:30,487 --> 00:50:33,240
and they get Bob,
and Bob turns around and he's like...
913
00:50:34,908 --> 00:50:37,494
And I'm just like this...
And my mom's like, "Come on."
914
00:50:37,577 --> 00:50:39,579
And I don't wanna, "come on,"
915
00:50:39,663 --> 00:50:43,458
but my mother pushes us through,
and so we go in with Bob, and, um...
916
00:50:43,542 --> 00:50:45,919
Bob turned around and he saw my shirt,
917
00:50:46,753 --> 00:50:47,796
and he was like,
918
00:50:48,588 --> 00:50:49,923
"Do you like them?"
919
00:50:50,006 --> 00:50:52,509
And then I realized
he wanted to talk about KISS.
920
00:50:52,592 --> 00:50:55,887
I think I was trying to--
to sound like I was...
921
00:50:56,555 --> 00:50:58,765
smart, and so I started saying,
922
00:50:58,849 --> 00:51:03,937
"Well, you know, I think that they
paint their faces in this Kabuki style."
923
00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:04,855
And he said,
924
00:51:04,938 --> 00:51:09,484
"Oh, I bet Okuni never spit blood
into the audience."
925
00:51:09,568 --> 00:51:12,362
And I was like, "Okuni?"
926
00:51:12,446 --> 00:51:14,865
And he's like, "Izumo no Okuni."
927
00:51:15,323 --> 00:51:16,700
Oh, and that's, you know,
928
00:51:16,783 --> 00:51:19,161
it's one of the guys
who started, uh, Kabuki.
929
00:51:19,244 --> 00:51:20,162
So...
930
00:51:20,245 --> 00:51:24,624
♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
931
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,294
♪ And party every day ♪
932
00:51:27,377 --> 00:51:30,881
♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
933
00:51:31,798 --> 00:51:33,592
♪ And party every day ♪
934
00:51:33,675 --> 00:51:36,845
♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
935
00:51:36,928 --> 00:51:38,346
I can't hear you!
936
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:39,806
♪ And party every day ♪
937
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:41,975
♪ I wanna rock and roll... ♪
938
00:51:42,058 --> 00:51:44,060
Scarlet Rivera was some piece of work.
939
00:51:44,144 --> 00:51:47,397
Most people'd kind of stay away
from Scarlet, but, uh, not me.
940
00:51:49,107 --> 00:51:52,778
Her boyfriend at the time
was the leader of KISS.
941
00:51:54,112 --> 00:51:56,198
And she took me over to Queens
to see them play.
942
00:51:57,115 --> 00:52:00,035
They were playing in a small club.
They had face paint on,
943
00:52:00,118 --> 00:52:01,995
and I thought that was
kind of interesting.
944
00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:05,373
I kind of filed that away somewhere.
945
00:52:05,457 --> 00:52:07,125
Clap your hands!
946
00:52:07,209 --> 00:52:12,005
♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
947
00:52:16,092 --> 00:52:19,888
Yeah, I remember a lot of things.
They-- They said I had a wonderful time.
948
00:52:19,971 --> 00:52:22,349
I think I did.
949
00:52:22,432 --> 00:52:24,851
They said every time
we used to do any interviews,
950
00:52:24,935 --> 00:52:28,271
all they wanted to know was,
"Ronnie, we wanna hear about the orgies."
951
00:52:28,355 --> 00:52:29,397
I said, "Orgies?"
952
00:52:29,481 --> 00:52:32,192
I said, "Goddamn, we never had any orgies.
That sounds nasty as hell."
953
00:52:32,275 --> 00:52:36,780
I said, "We might have had 14 or 15 people
in love a time or two, but no orgies."
954
00:52:38,573 --> 00:52:39,533
Look who's here.
955
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,034
Yo, man.
956
00:52:41,576 --> 00:52:43,620
Well, Ronnie Hawkins, now,
957
00:52:43,703 --> 00:52:47,457
he looked like a shitkicker,
but he spoke with the wisdom of a sage.
958
00:52:48,583 --> 00:52:49,543
He was like a...
959
00:52:50,752 --> 00:52:51,670
a...
960
00:52:53,129 --> 00:52:54,422
gladiator or something...
961
00:52:55,048 --> 00:52:56,633
that wrestled and raced
962
00:52:56,716 --> 00:53:00,220
in, uh, in--
in some nondescript Roman arena.
963
00:53:00,303 --> 00:53:01,137
Uh...
964
00:53:01,221 --> 00:53:04,099
you expected Ronnie to, uh,
to wear a toga...
965
00:53:06,726 --> 00:53:08,395
instead of that ratty cowboy hat.
966
00:53:09,521 --> 00:53:11,815
- Remember Scarlet Rivera?
- Oh, yeah.
967
00:53:11,898 --> 00:53:14,025
She fell in love with my rhythm man
968
00:53:14,109 --> 00:53:15,569
from my band, Scarlet did.
969
00:53:16,528 --> 00:53:20,365
Yeah, they put on some interesting shows
there, up there in my room.
970
00:53:23,451 --> 00:53:25,871
I think I narrated a couple of 'em.
I'm not sure.
971
00:53:26,371 --> 00:53:29,082
But, uh, yeah, she was something else...
wore a sword.
972
00:53:29,875 --> 00:53:31,710
She had--
She wore a sword everywhere she went,
973
00:53:31,793 --> 00:53:32,836
that girl, so I didn't...
974
00:53:32,919 --> 00:53:36,089
I was a little bit uneasy
about trying to slip her out,
975
00:53:36,172 --> 00:53:39,134
'cause, boy, if you didn't satisfy her,
she's liable to stab you.
976
00:53:42,429 --> 00:53:43,680
She was unusual.
977
00:53:43,763 --> 00:53:46,600
I went to her room once,
and there was a box of stuff.
978
00:53:47,183 --> 00:53:50,729
Like, chains and mirrors...
979
00:53:51,563 --> 00:53:52,689
candelabras and...
980
00:53:54,024 --> 00:53:55,191
She had swords.
981
00:53:55,859 --> 00:53:56,860
She had a snake.
982
00:53:57,319 --> 00:53:58,403
Just, uh...
983
00:53:58,904 --> 00:54:01,698
many things in... in a trunk.
984
00:54:03,158 --> 00:54:06,828
And, uh, that told me more about her
than anything she had to say.
985
00:54:10,332 --> 00:54:11,666
She didn't say much.
986
00:54:13,543 --> 00:54:14,920
But she didn't have to.
987
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:21,426
- What's that?
- This? This is my friend.
988
00:54:24,387 --> 00:54:26,473
He keeps me company while I play.
989
00:54:26,973 --> 00:54:29,601
He's playing the dance beyond his limits.
990
00:54:31,353 --> 00:54:33,855
Something that most people
would say is impossible.
991
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:39,402
But artists like to challenge
the impossible, I guess.
992
00:54:40,070 --> 00:54:43,073
That's why we wear
the makeup we wear, I guess, too.
993
00:54:45,533 --> 00:54:47,911
It's a striking image
you have onstage.
994
00:54:50,121 --> 00:54:52,624
Mr. Tambourine Man gives us
the opportunity
995
00:54:52,707 --> 00:54:55,335
to be whoever we wish to be.
996
00:55:11,726 --> 00:55:15,063
This, uh, young, beautiful,
young lady over here is Scarlet.
997
00:55:15,146 --> 00:55:16,314
She plays with us, too.
998
00:55:35,667 --> 00:55:40,463
I'd been at the high holy gypsy holiday
at Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer,
999
00:55:40,547 --> 00:55:41,381
South of France.
1000
00:55:46,469 --> 00:55:49,806
It happens to be on my birthday,
so it was like going home.
1001
00:56:07,449 --> 00:56:09,034
Manitas de Plata was there,
1002
00:56:09,117 --> 00:56:11,494
and he played all night
along the campfire.
1003
00:56:12,454 --> 00:56:14,247
I mean, he was fantastic.
1004
00:56:15,081 --> 00:56:19,377
And, uh, I stayed up till dawn
just listening to him play.
1005
00:56:57,165 --> 00:56:59,959
Some time after that,
couldn't have been more than a week,
1006
00:57:00,502 --> 00:57:03,463
that song came to me in a dream.
1007
00:57:03,922 --> 00:57:05,673
♪ Your breath is sweet ♪
1008
00:57:05,757 --> 00:57:09,302
♪ Your eyes are like
Two jewels in the sky ♪
1009
00:57:11,846 --> 00:57:14,516
♪ Your back is straight
Your hair is smooth ♪
1010
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,393
♪ On the pillow where you lie ♪
1011
00:57:19,187 --> 00:57:22,524
♪ But I don't sense affection ♪
1012
00:57:22,607 --> 00:57:24,442
♪ No gratitude or love ♪
1013
00:57:26,277 --> 00:57:28,905
♪ Your loyalty is not to me ♪
1014
00:57:28,988 --> 00:57:31,866
♪ But to the stars above ♪
1015
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:37,372
♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
1016
00:57:40,375 --> 00:57:44,712
♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
1017
00:57:46,256 --> 00:57:49,509
♪ To the valley below ♪
1018
00:58:01,855 --> 00:58:05,275
♪ Your daddy, he's an outlaw ♪
1019
00:58:05,358 --> 00:58:07,527
♪ And a wanderer by trade ♪
1020
00:58:09,821 --> 00:58:12,574
♪ He'll teach you how to pick and choose ♪
1021
00:58:12,657 --> 00:58:15,451
♪ And how to throw the blade ♪
1022
00:58:17,370 --> 00:58:19,831
♪ He oversees his kingdom ♪
1023
00:58:20,290 --> 00:58:23,209
♪ So no stranger does intrude ♪
1024
00:58:24,294 --> 00:58:27,547
♪ His voice, it trembles as he calls out ♪
1025
00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:30,091
♪ For another plate of food ♪
1026
00:58:31,384 --> 00:58:35,597
♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
1027
00:58:38,558 --> 00:58:42,687
♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
1028
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,275
♪ To the valley below ♪
1029
00:58:59,829 --> 00:59:03,124
♪ Your sister sees the future ♪
1030
00:59:03,208 --> 00:59:05,251
♪ Like your mama and yourself ♪
1031
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:10,340
♪ You've never learned to read or write ♪
1032
00:59:10,423 --> 00:59:13,384
♪ There's no books upon your shelf ♪
1033
00:59:14,677 --> 00:59:17,972
♪ And your pleasure knows no limits ♪
1034
00:59:18,056 --> 00:59:20,642
♪ Your voice is like a meadowlark ♪
1035
00:59:21,851 --> 00:59:24,562
♪ But your heart is like an ocean ♪
1036
00:59:25,021 --> 00:59:28,274
♪ Mysterious and dark ♪
1037
00:59:28,983 --> 00:59:33,154
♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
1038
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:40,662
♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
1039
00:59:42,121 --> 00:59:45,416
♪ To the valley below ♪
1040
01:00:30,461 --> 01:00:32,839
Are you used
to going to rock shows?
1041
01:00:34,048 --> 01:00:36,509
No, it's one of the very few I've seen.
1042
01:00:38,261 --> 01:00:42,348
I finally realized, after last night,
I've been missing an awful lot.
1043
01:00:43,558 --> 01:00:45,518
I thought it was
the most unusual occurrence.
1044
01:00:45,601 --> 01:00:47,854
I never-- I never noticed...
1045
01:00:48,604 --> 01:00:50,773
as a-- as a part of an audience,
1046
01:00:52,442 --> 01:00:53,985
I never paid attention to a...
1047
01:00:55,778 --> 01:00:58,865
to a response between an audience
and people on the stage,
1048
01:00:58,948 --> 01:01:00,199
performers onstage.
1049
01:01:00,950 --> 01:01:04,203
That, to me,
was like a show all by itself.
1050
01:01:05,204 --> 01:01:07,832
It was like one battery charging another.
1051
01:01:11,336 --> 01:01:12,337
And...
1052
01:01:13,171 --> 01:01:16,549
you not only could feel the vibes,
you could-- you could almost see them.
1053
01:01:18,801 --> 01:01:19,844
There was a...
1054
01:01:21,888 --> 01:01:24,599
a love affair between the performers
and the audience.
1055
01:01:30,188 --> 01:01:32,231
Uh, I was thinking about the forces
1056
01:01:32,315 --> 01:01:33,608
that draw people together.
1057
01:01:34,067 --> 01:01:40,323
The magnetism that makes the unit
that's now formed as Rolling Thunder.
1058
01:01:40,865 --> 01:01:41,991
And, uh...
1059
01:01:42,075 --> 01:01:44,744
to me, the future already exists.
1060
01:01:46,037 --> 01:01:48,581
For some people, maybe for everyone.
1061
01:01:51,376 --> 01:01:55,004
It's just a matter
of tuning yourself to it.
1062
01:02:00,093 --> 01:02:05,056
"I saw the best minds
of my generation destroyed by madness,
1063
01:02:05,139 --> 01:02:07,725
starving hysterical naked,
1064
01:02:08,267 --> 01:02:11,562
dragging themselves
through the negro streets at dawn
1065
01:02:11,646 --> 01:02:13,773
looking for an angry fix..."
1066
01:02:15,108 --> 01:02:17,485
Allen Ginsberg was a saintlike figure.
1067
01:02:18,152 --> 01:02:21,239
It was like having a...
kinda like a father figure.
1068
01:02:21,322 --> 01:02:22,615
He was always very sober.
1069
01:02:24,033 --> 01:02:27,245
No, Allen Ginsberg
was anything but a father figure.
1070
01:02:28,663 --> 01:02:30,706
He was definitely not a father figure.
1071
01:02:31,249 --> 01:02:32,500
Allen Ginsberg,
1072
01:02:32,583 --> 01:02:36,212
a guy I really-- I really miss,
of the ones that are gone.
1073
01:02:36,712 --> 01:02:40,091
We became very friendly,
I mean, you know, he-- he...
1074
01:02:40,174 --> 01:02:43,803
I wasn't a bad-looking, you know,
little 19-year-old at the time,
1075
01:02:43,886 --> 01:02:46,556
and he had a thing for straight,
1076
01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:47,598
talented...
1077
01:02:48,516 --> 01:02:49,392
um...
1078
01:02:50,017 --> 01:02:51,644
teenage boys.
1079
01:02:51,727 --> 01:02:53,771
So, that probably added to it, I suppose.
1080
01:03:00,528 --> 01:03:02,655
One thing people
don't know about Ginsberg
1081
01:03:02,738 --> 01:03:04,365
is that he was an incredible dancer.
1082
01:03:04,449 --> 01:03:05,825
Um... who...
1083
01:03:05,908 --> 01:03:10,705
he would just do these steps
that were so unusual and exciting.
1084
01:03:10,788 --> 01:03:13,416
You know, and he'd always have
a good dance partner, too.
1085
01:03:13,499 --> 01:03:17,712
Uh, usually somebody from the tour,
somebody we'd pick up along the way.
1086
01:03:17,795 --> 01:03:20,214
Uh... He danced a lot, Ginsberg.
1087
01:03:22,884 --> 01:03:25,636
"& shaman
he swings a skinny leg to the sky
1088
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,889
& shaman
he desires you be there watching
1089
01:03:27,972 --> 01:03:29,765
shaman don't care about eating now
1090
01:03:29,849 --> 01:03:32,518
he's got his paint on
he's ready for jive
1091
01:03:32,602 --> 01:03:35,021
& shaman's going to sway
& gesture in space
1092
01:03:35,104 --> 01:03:38,399
& shaman's shouting yeah for you
& singing your sorrow
1093
01:03:38,483 --> 01:03:40,276
shaman's not faithful except to you
1094
01:03:40,359 --> 01:03:42,361
shaman does it for you
you know all this
1095
01:03:42,445 --> 01:03:44,780
shaman's got his eyes on the violin."
1096
01:03:47,408 --> 01:03:49,952
There was this yearning,
Allen's yearning,
1097
01:03:50,536 --> 01:03:52,121
to either be Bob or...
1098
01:03:53,122 --> 01:03:55,041
have Bob love him more.
1099
01:03:55,124 --> 01:03:57,043
And I remember Bob saying,
1100
01:03:57,126 --> 01:03:59,253
"Just go out and sing
on the street corners."
1101
01:03:59,337 --> 01:04:00,838
So Allen was essentially doing that.
1102
01:04:00,922 --> 01:04:03,049
♪ Ah... ♪
1103
01:04:03,132 --> 01:04:06,802
Seeing Ginsberg was
like going to see the Oracle of Delphi.
1104
01:04:07,261 --> 01:04:10,223
He didn't care about material wealth
or political power.
1105
01:04:10,806 --> 01:04:12,475
He was his own kind of king.
1106
01:04:14,185 --> 01:04:16,437
But... he wanted to play music.
1107
01:04:18,898 --> 01:04:21,234
He had already achieved
what any national poet
1108
01:04:21,317 --> 01:04:22,568
could hope to achieve.
1109
01:04:22,652 --> 01:04:25,947
"I saw the best minds of my generation
destroyed by madness."
1110
01:04:26,614 --> 01:04:28,157
Very few poets have done that.
1111
01:04:28,991 --> 01:04:30,243
Robert Frost, maybe.
1112
01:04:30,868 --> 01:04:33,329
"Promises to keep,
miles to go before I sleep."
1113
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:36,249
Whitman said,
"I am large, I contain multitudes."
1114
01:04:36,332 --> 01:04:38,167
We still remember those lines today.
1115
01:04:39,168 --> 01:04:42,421
Today's poets don't reach
into the public consciousness that way.
1116
01:04:43,422 --> 01:04:46,551
So it was remarkable
that Allen had actually broken through.
1117
01:04:47,301 --> 01:04:51,764
Nowadays, lines that people remember
are lines from songs, lyrics from songs...
1118
01:04:53,099 --> 01:04:55,142
"Your cheatin' heart will make you weep."
1119
01:04:55,226 --> 01:04:58,062
"Don't change your hair for me,
not if you care for me."
1120
01:04:58,854 --> 01:05:01,607
"I'm in the mood for love."
"What a difference a day makes."
1121
01:05:01,691 --> 01:05:02,984
"Ain't misbehavin'."
1122
01:05:03,067 --> 01:05:06,487
Allen wanted his lines
to be remembered like that,
1123
01:05:07,113 --> 01:05:08,781
but he was a poet.
1124
01:05:09,532 --> 01:05:10,908
He wasn't a songwriter.
1125
01:05:12,868 --> 01:05:16,914
By 1970 through 1975,
1126
01:05:16,998 --> 01:05:20,626
all of the, uh, heroes of song and poetry
1127
01:05:21,586 --> 01:05:23,087
were out on their own,
1128
01:05:23,588 --> 01:05:24,505
uh...
1129
01:05:25,881 --> 01:05:27,550
in the solitude...
1130
01:05:28,509 --> 01:05:29,385
doing their art.
1131
01:05:31,262 --> 01:05:34,056
The people that were going to die
or drink themselves to death,
1132
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:36,559
as many great artists did,
or get strung out...
1133
01:05:37,226 --> 01:05:41,188
uh, went down to... uh...
1134
01:05:42,189 --> 01:05:44,942
She'ol, as Kerouac did,
1135
01:05:45,401 --> 01:05:48,654
105 miles from this ocean,
buried in Lowell.
1136
01:05:49,739 --> 01:05:52,825
But that's where I got all my poetry,
out of Mexico City Blues.
1137
01:05:53,868 --> 01:05:54,994
You ever read this?
1138
01:05:55,077 --> 01:05:56,412
- Sure.
- This book...
1139
01:05:56,871 --> 01:05:59,415
- This is my favorite.
- Yeah, I-- I read this. Uh...
1140
01:06:00,791 --> 01:06:03,461
My good friend Dave Whitaker
gave me a copy of this book.
1141
01:06:03,544 --> 01:06:06,881
- When?
- Uh, in Minneapolis in 1959.
1142
01:06:06,964 --> 01:06:07,798
Uh-huh.
1143
01:06:08,466 --> 01:06:11,886
I remember when David gave me this book,
it just blew a hole in my mind.
1144
01:06:11,969 --> 01:06:12,803
Really?
1145
01:06:13,804 --> 01:06:16,098
- Yeah.
- "What's been buried in the grave?
1146
01:06:16,182 --> 01:06:17,099
Dust.
1147
01:06:17,183 --> 01:06:18,309
- Perfect--"
- "Perfect dust."
1148
01:06:18,392 --> 01:06:20,686
"Perfect dust in time."
1149
01:06:21,437 --> 01:06:23,064
He wrote a lot about being dead.
1150
01:06:24,231 --> 01:06:26,817
"Once I went to a movie
At midnight, 1940,
1151
01:06:26,901 --> 01:06:28,402
Mice and Men, the name of it.
1152
01:06:28,486 --> 01:06:31,447
The Red Block Boxcars Rolling
by
1153
01:06:31,906 --> 01:06:32,740
Yessir
1154
01:06:32,823 --> 01:06:34,700
life finally gets tired of living -
1155
01:06:35,242 --> 01:06:37,787
On both occasions I had wild
Face looking into lights
1156
01:06:37,870 --> 01:06:39,246
Of streets where phantoms
1157
01:06:39,330 --> 01:06:42,208
Hastened out of sight
Into Memorial cello time."
1158
01:06:42,291 --> 01:06:43,876
Oh, yeah.
1159
01:06:43,959 --> 01:06:46,295
Here's one.
"Dead and don't know it,
1160
01:06:46,379 --> 01:06:47,755
Living and do.
1161
01:06:47,838 --> 01:06:49,590
The living have a dead idea.
1162
01:06:50,132 --> 01:06:51,926
A person is a living idea;
1163
01:06:52,009 --> 01:06:53,803
after death, a dead idea.
1164
01:06:53,886 --> 01:06:55,429
When rock becomes air..."
1165
01:06:55,513 --> 01:06:56,597
"I will be there."
1166
01:06:57,598 --> 01:06:59,308
- He's here.
- Yeah, this is where he is.
1167
01:06:59,392 --> 01:07:01,727
- Yeah. So rock has become air.
- Yeah.
1168
01:07:04,772 --> 01:07:06,732
- Let's sit down a minute, relax.
- Well, this is...
1169
01:07:07,358 --> 01:07:10,861
- Yes, it's not every day...
- Kerouac, he honored life.
1170
01:07:11,737 --> 01:07:14,990
I had to read everything again,
that Kerouac wrote.
1171
01:07:15,074 --> 01:07:17,910
Not that I did,
but I thought about it differently.
1172
01:07:18,452 --> 01:07:20,329
All of a sudden, On the Road,
1173
01:07:21,789 --> 01:07:23,708
he was talking about the road of life.
1174
01:07:33,259 --> 01:07:35,052
"Strange now to think of you,
1175
01:07:35,136 --> 01:07:37,263
gone without corsets and eyes,
1176
01:07:37,346 --> 01:07:39,140
while I walk on the sunny pavement
1177
01:07:39,223 --> 01:07:40,433
of Greenwich Village,
1178
01:07:41,225 --> 01:07:42,977
downtown Manhattan,
1179
01:07:43,060 --> 01:07:44,520
clear winter noon,
1180
01:07:44,603 --> 01:07:46,605
and I've been up all night talking,
1181
01:07:46,689 --> 01:07:47,690
talking,
1182
01:07:47,773 --> 01:07:49,608
reading the Kaddish aloud,
1183
01:07:49,692 --> 01:07:51,193
listening to Ray Charles
1184
01:07:51,277 --> 01:07:54,113
blues shout blind on the phonograph
1185
01:07:54,196 --> 01:07:55,990
The rhythm, the rhythm
1186
01:07:56,657 --> 01:07:58,909
- and your memory in my head..."
- "like a poem in the dark--
1187
01:07:58,993 --> 01:08:01,328
escaped back to Oblivion--
1188
01:08:01,954 --> 01:08:03,205
No more to say,
1189
01:08:03,289 --> 01:08:06,751
and nothing to weep for
but the Beings in the Dream,
1190
01:08:06,834 --> 01:08:08,544
trapped in its disappearance,
1191
01:08:09,044 --> 01:08:10,212
sighing,
1192
01:08:10,296 --> 01:08:11,255
screaming with it,
1193
01:08:11,338 --> 01:08:15,009
buying and selling pieces of phantom,
1194
01:08:15,092 --> 01:08:17,720
laughing and weeping over mahjong,
1195
01:08:17,803 --> 01:08:19,555
worshipping each other,
1196
01:08:19,638 --> 01:08:22,391
worshipping the God included in it all--
1197
01:08:22,475 --> 01:08:25,060
longing or inevitability?--
1198
01:08:25,144 --> 01:08:27,730
while it lasts, a Vision--
1199
01:08:27,813 --> 01:08:31,192
Death, stay thy phantoms!
1200
01:08:31,776 --> 01:08:34,320
O mother what have I left out
1201
01:08:34,904 --> 01:08:37,740
O mother what have I forgotten
1202
01:08:37,823 --> 01:08:40,743
O mother farewell
1203
01:08:40,826 --> 01:08:42,828
with a long black shoe
1204
01:08:43,329 --> 01:08:45,748
farewell with Communist Party
1205
01:08:45,831 --> 01:08:47,333
and a broken stocking
1206
01:08:47,792 --> 01:08:49,960
farewell with six dark hairs
1207
01:08:50,044 --> 01:08:51,712
on the wen of your breast
1208
01:08:52,213 --> 01:08:54,590
farewell with your old dress
1209
01:08:54,673 --> 01:08:58,010
and a long black beard
around the vagina
1210
01:08:58,093 --> 01:09:01,597
with your eyes
with your eyes of Russia
1211
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,891
with your eyes of no money
1212
01:09:03,974 --> 01:09:06,477
with your eyes of Aunt Elanor
1213
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,562
with your eyes of shock
1214
01:09:08,646 --> 01:09:11,023
with your eyes of lobotomy
1215
01:09:11,106 --> 01:09:15,736
with your eyes of divorce
with your eyes of stroke
1216
01:09:15,820 --> 01:09:18,113
with your eyes alone
1217
01:09:18,197 --> 01:09:19,698
with your eyes
1218
01:09:19,782 --> 01:09:21,158
with your eyes
1219
01:09:21,242 --> 01:09:23,911
with your death full of flowers."
1220
01:09:46,433 --> 01:09:49,728
♪ She walks alone
Through the city blocks ♪
1221
01:09:50,521 --> 01:09:53,732
♪ Oh, hears the tickin' of the clocks ♪
1222
01:09:55,067 --> 01:09:57,778
♪ Hunts for her by the waterfront docks ♪
1223
01:09:57,862 --> 01:10:00,698
♪ Where the sailors all come in ♪
1224
01:10:01,866 --> 01:10:04,368
♪ Maybe he'll see her there once again ♪
1225
01:10:05,619 --> 01:10:08,831
♪ How long must he wait? ♪
1226
01:10:10,666 --> 01:10:15,004
♪ One more time
For a simple twist of fate ♪
1227
01:10:18,048 --> 01:10:20,009
Tell me a bit
about the spirit of the tour.
1228
01:10:20,092 --> 01:10:22,469
- 'Cause you're doing new songs, right?
- Yeah.
1229
01:10:22,553 --> 01:10:25,556
And a lot of people in
the audience expected the old songs.
1230
01:10:25,639 --> 01:10:27,433
But Ratso, you know,
that's the first--
1231
01:10:27,516 --> 01:10:29,351
- one of the first rules--
- What's that?
1232
01:10:29,435 --> 01:10:30,811
The expectations, you know?
1233
01:10:30,895 --> 01:10:33,397
If you have big expectations,
you're gonna be let down.
1234
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:35,399
You can't have any expectations.
1235
01:10:35,482 --> 01:10:37,151
But people do have preconceptions.
1236
01:10:37,234 --> 01:10:39,945
That's their problem, Ratso.
That's their own problem.
1237
01:10:40,029 --> 01:10:42,615
We can't account for everybody
who's walking around, you know?
1238
01:10:42,698 --> 01:10:44,116
Like having expectations.
1239
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:45,618
I mean, who gives a shit?
1240
01:10:45,701 --> 01:10:46,869
Yeah.
1241
01:10:46,952 --> 01:10:50,122
♪ They sat together in the park ♪
1242
01:10:51,165 --> 01:10:53,751
♪ As the evening sky got dark ♪
1243
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,504
♪ She looked at him and he felt a spark ♪
1244
01:10:58,881 --> 01:11:01,383
♪ Tingle to his bones ♪
1245
01:11:02,801 --> 01:11:05,387
♪ 'Twas then he felt alone ♪
1246
01:11:06,639 --> 01:11:09,767
♪ And he wished he'd gone straight ♪
1247
01:11:11,018 --> 01:11:15,856
♪ And watched out
For a simple twist of fate ♪
1248
01:11:19,902 --> 01:11:22,947
♪ They walked along by the old canal ♪
1249
01:11:23,989 --> 01:11:26,742
♪ A little confused, I remember well ♪
1250
01:11:28,118 --> 01:11:30,913
♪ And stopped into a strange hotel ♪
1251
01:11:31,497 --> 01:11:34,458
♪ With a neon burnin' bright ♪
1252
01:11:35,626 --> 01:11:38,629
♪ He felt the heat of the night ♪
1253
01:11:39,546 --> 01:11:43,968
♪ Hit him like a freight train ♪
1254
01:11:44,051 --> 01:11:48,806
♪ Moving with a simple twist of fate ♪
1255
01:11:52,935 --> 01:11:55,980
♪ A saxophone someplace softly played ♪
1256
01:11:56,897 --> 01:11:59,858
♪ As she was walkin' on by the arcade ♪
1257
01:12:01,026 --> 01:12:03,904
♪ She heard the melody rise and fade ♪
1258
01:12:04,613 --> 01:12:07,408
♪ The sun was coming up ♪
1259
01:12:08,242 --> 01:12:11,578
♪ She dropped a coin into the cup ♪
1260
01:12:12,371 --> 01:12:15,708
♪ Of a blind man at the gate ♪
1261
01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:21,714
♪ And forgot about
A simple twist of fate ♪
1262
01:12:26,051 --> 01:12:29,138
♪ He woke up, she was gone ♪
1263
01:12:29,930 --> 01:12:32,766
♪ He didn't see nothing but the dawn ♪
1264
01:12:33,934 --> 01:12:37,104
♪ He got out of bed
And put his clothes back on ♪
1265
01:12:38,188 --> 01:12:40,315
♪ Pushed back the blinds ♪
1266
01:12:41,275 --> 01:12:44,319
♪ Found a note she'd left behind ♪
1267
01:12:45,154 --> 01:12:48,657
♪ To which he just could not relate ♪
1268
01:12:50,242 --> 01:12:54,496
♪ All about a simple twist of fate ♪
1269
01:13:00,419 --> 01:13:03,881
♪ He hears the ticking of the clocks ♪
1270
01:13:04,506 --> 01:13:08,052
♪ And walks alone
Through the city blocks ♪
1271
01:13:08,677 --> 01:13:11,889
♪ Hunts her down by the waterfront docks ♪
1272
01:13:11,972 --> 01:13:14,975
♪ Where the sailors all roll in ♪
1273
01:13:15,768 --> 01:13:19,021
♪ Maybe he'll spot her once again ♪
1274
01:13:19,521 --> 01:13:23,233
♪ How long must he wait? ♪
1275
01:13:24,818 --> 01:13:29,364
♪ One more time
For a simple twist of fate ♪
1276
01:13:33,577 --> 01:13:36,205
♪ People tell me it's a crime ♪
1277
01:13:37,456 --> 01:13:40,667
♪ To know too much for too long a time ♪
1278
01:13:41,752 --> 01:13:45,005
♪ She should've caught me in my prime ♪
1279
01:13:45,756 --> 01:13:48,133
♪ She would've stayed with me ♪
1280
01:13:48,801 --> 01:13:52,054
♪ Instead I'm going off to sea ♪
1281
01:13:52,679 --> 01:13:56,558
♪ And leaving me to meditate ♪
1282
01:13:57,851 --> 01:14:03,107
♪ Upon that simple twist of fate ♪
1283
01:14:53,532 --> 01:14:56,952
I shall resign the presidency
effective at noon tomorrow.
1284
01:14:57,035 --> 01:14:59,955
Vice President Ford will be
sworn in as president
1285
01:15:00,455 --> 01:15:03,083
at that hour in this office.
1286
01:15:03,167 --> 01:15:06,920
♪ I dreamed I saw Saint Augustine ♪
1287
01:15:07,004 --> 01:15:10,132
♪ Alive as you or me... ♪
1288
01:15:10,215 --> 01:15:13,302
Thomas Jefferson said, "The people...
1289
01:15:14,136 --> 01:15:18,849
are the only sure reliance
for the preservation of our liberty."
1290
01:15:18,932 --> 01:15:22,895
♪ With a blanket underneath his arm ♪
1291
01:15:22,978 --> 01:15:25,022
♪ And a coat of solid gold... ♪
1292
01:15:25,105 --> 01:15:28,859
Abraham Lincoln renewed
this American article of faith
1293
01:15:28,942 --> 01:15:34,072
asking, "Is there any better way
or equal hope in the world?"
1294
01:15:34,156 --> 01:15:35,157
Go!
1295
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,075
Everybody get out of the way, now!
1296
01:15:37,159 --> 01:15:38,285
Get down!
1297
01:15:38,368 --> 01:15:39,411
Get out of the way!
1298
01:15:41,997 --> 01:15:45,417
♪ Come out ye gifted kings and queens... ♪
1299
01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:49,087
We've got too many people
who are knocking every institution,
1300
01:15:49,171 --> 01:15:51,548
including the Congress,
the president, the flag,
1301
01:15:51,632 --> 01:15:52,758
everything.
1302
01:15:52,841 --> 01:15:54,426
I think it's time to stand up and say,
1303
01:15:54,509 --> 01:15:57,554
"Well, we believe in these institutions,
and we believe in America."
1304
01:15:58,263 --> 01:16:00,182
And I think America
ought to sing a little bit.
1305
01:16:00,265 --> 01:16:01,850
♪ ...accordingly ♪
1306
01:16:01,934 --> 01:16:06,813
♪ And know you're not alone ♪
1307
01:16:10,275 --> 01:16:12,861
Now, we're talking about
Bob Dylan the man,
1308
01:16:12,945 --> 01:16:15,864
that's who we're talking about,
the message he preaches when he sings...
1309
01:16:15,948 --> 01:16:18,200
- You can't use microscopes on everything.
- The happiness...
1310
01:16:18,283 --> 01:16:19,576
You're not using microscopes.
1311
01:16:19,660 --> 01:16:22,454
- You can't use a scalpel that way.
- You're using the message.
1312
01:16:22,996 --> 01:16:24,998
I thought it was sort of depressing...
1313
01:16:25,582 --> 01:16:28,710
that people would stand in line
for two days to see a man.
1314
01:16:28,794 --> 01:16:30,170
It just so-- shows...
1315
01:16:31,922 --> 01:16:34,591
they have that need for something
or somebody to...
1316
01:16:36,843 --> 01:16:39,346
bring salvation or something.
You know?
1317
01:16:40,013 --> 01:16:41,181
But I did it, too.
1318
01:16:42,224 --> 01:16:43,350
I don't know.
1319
01:16:43,433 --> 01:16:46,061
About five in the afternoon,
the day before the show, right?
1320
01:16:46,144 --> 01:16:47,020
- Yeah.
- You were there,
1321
01:16:47,104 --> 01:16:49,606
you'd been there for a couple of days,
you hit on me right away.
1322
01:16:49,690 --> 01:16:51,233
You said you wanted this button, right?
1323
01:16:51,316 --> 01:16:52,985
Thought I was Dylan
or some shit like that.
1324
01:16:53,068 --> 01:16:54,611
- Yeah, right. Mm-hmm.
- Yeah.
1325
01:16:55,195 --> 01:16:57,698
A lot of people think you are, Larry.
1326
01:16:57,781 --> 01:17:00,284
Well, it's pretty obvious.
1327
01:17:00,367 --> 01:17:02,369
Take your glasses off for a minute.
1328
01:17:03,495 --> 01:17:05,580
- I'm not him.
- Well, anyways...
1329
01:17:05,664 --> 01:17:08,834
That little shit Ratso,
he was the worst.
1330
01:17:08,917 --> 01:17:11,545
He dressed like Dylan,
he tried to talk like Dylan,
1331
01:17:11,628 --> 01:17:13,588
always trying to ingratiate himself.
1332
01:17:13,672 --> 01:17:15,132
He thought he was Hunter Thompson
1333
01:17:15,215 --> 01:17:17,509
just because he was writing
for Rolling Stone.
1334
01:17:17,592 --> 01:17:20,304
He didn't want anyone else
with vision around.
1335
01:17:21,263 --> 01:17:23,307
Did he wind up
causing problems for you?
1336
01:17:23,390 --> 01:17:24,599
Please.
1337
01:17:24,683 --> 01:17:27,644
Does the cockroach really cause
problems for the house?
1338
01:17:27,728 --> 01:17:29,396
No, it's just a nuisance.
1339
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,898
Van Dorp was an unusual guy.
1340
01:17:32,482 --> 01:17:35,444
He's one of those kind of people
who's trying to... just needs an enemy.
1341
01:17:35,527 --> 01:17:36,361
And...
1342
01:17:36,445 --> 01:17:39,614
uh, he was trying to make enemies
where there weren't any,
1343
01:17:39,698 --> 01:17:42,284
and, uh, he-- he was--
1344
01:17:42,367 --> 01:17:43,994
he was successful at that.
1345
01:17:46,079 --> 01:17:49,791
He-- He angered a lot-- lots of people,
especially in catering.
1346
01:17:49,875 --> 01:17:53,086
He would eat two or three, uh, meals
1347
01:17:53,170 --> 01:17:56,465
that really...
really were for somebody else.
1348
01:17:57,841 --> 01:18:00,469
So, he ate more than he was supposed to,
1349
01:18:01,053 --> 01:18:03,013
and I think-- and I think he...
1350
01:18:05,557 --> 01:18:10,187
...uh, I think he stuck his nose in places
it might've should not have been.
1351
01:18:11,688 --> 01:18:13,523
He was also a very paranoid person.
1352
01:18:14,274 --> 01:18:16,568
Complained to people
that his room was bugged.
1353
01:18:17,736 --> 01:18:21,114
Uh, which, you know,
McGuinn was on that tour,
1354
01:18:21,198 --> 01:18:26,411
and McGuinn who at that point was
into, uh, very sophisticated electronics.
1355
01:18:26,495 --> 01:18:28,497
So I'm not saying it wasn't bugged but...
1356
01:18:29,289 --> 01:18:31,458
but I'm not saying that it was bugged,
1357
01:18:31,541 --> 01:18:33,126
because I don't know that for a fact.
1358
01:18:33,210 --> 01:18:35,295
All tickets are $8.50 a ticket.
1359
01:18:36,046 --> 01:18:37,964
What were the audiences like...
1360
01:18:38,048 --> 01:18:39,132
that you played to?
1361
01:18:41,385 --> 01:18:43,637
Well, they would all be...
1362
01:18:44,679 --> 01:18:45,847
hysterically happy.
1363
01:18:46,431 --> 01:18:48,183
So, I mean, you can't really judge much
1364
01:18:48,266 --> 01:18:50,310
from saying,
"What would the audiences be like?"
1365
01:18:50,394 --> 01:18:53,563
They would all be people who would've
slit each other's throats to get there.
1366
01:19:04,449 --> 01:19:07,494
- Don't make myths. A couple of what?
- A couple of what?
1367
01:19:18,547 --> 01:19:23,218
♪ They say ev'rything can be replaced ♪
1368
01:19:26,471 --> 01:19:30,350
♪ That ev'ry distance is not near ♪
1369
01:19:33,728 --> 01:19:37,899
♪ So I remember ev'ry face ♪
1370
01:19:41,027 --> 01:19:45,073
♪ Of ev'ryman who put me here ♪
1371
01:19:45,615 --> 01:19:47,784
Joan Baez
and me could sing anything.
1372
01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:50,579
We could sing together in our sleep.
1373
01:19:51,455 --> 01:19:52,581
As a matter of fact,
1374
01:19:53,123 --> 01:19:55,959
lot of times when I was sleeping,
I'd hear her voice.
1375
01:19:58,170 --> 01:20:01,923
♪ Yonder down here in this lonely crowd ♪
1376
01:20:05,677 --> 01:20:09,931
♪ Is a man who swears he's not to blame ♪
1377
01:20:13,518 --> 01:20:17,981
♪ All day long I hear him shouting loud ♪
1378
01:20:20,817 --> 01:20:25,071
♪ Crying out that he'd been framed ♪
1379
01:20:27,657 --> 01:20:29,075
♪ I see my light...♪
1380
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:31,161
Joan was so courageous.
1381
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,038
Self-disciplined.
1382
01:20:34,039 --> 01:20:37,292
When I first met her, it seemed like
she'd come down to Earth from a meteorite.
1383
01:20:37,918 --> 01:20:38,877
And she's never changed.
1384
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,880
She always seems like she's
just come down from a meteorite.
1385
01:20:46,510 --> 01:20:49,346
You had no reservations
about going on tour?
1386
01:20:49,971 --> 01:20:51,014
Well...
1387
01:20:51,681 --> 01:20:53,058
Sure.
1388
01:20:53,808 --> 01:20:54,643
I mean...
1389
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,857
I think it probably sounded like... fun,
but I also had experienced Dylan,
1390
01:21:00,941 --> 01:21:04,528
and, you know, how much fun
that can be on any tour or not.
1391
01:21:04,986 --> 01:21:05,904
So, um...
1392
01:21:06,446 --> 01:21:09,658
But I think, know-- knowing
that it was gonna be a lot of people,
1393
01:21:09,741 --> 01:21:13,036
and I was gonna have
my own family with me...
1394
01:21:17,666 --> 01:21:20,418
It sounded exciting, you know.
1395
01:21:30,428 --> 01:21:32,055
I had my own freedom...
1396
01:21:32,138 --> 01:21:35,892
to sing and dance in a way
that I didn't do on my own stage.
1397
01:21:42,857 --> 01:21:44,734
Maybe there
wasn't enough for her to do
1398
01:21:44,818 --> 01:21:46,444
and she'd begin to go a little stir-crazy.
1399
01:21:46,528 --> 01:21:47,654
Started doing, uh...
1400
01:21:47,737 --> 01:21:51,449
boogaloo and hanging out with people
maybe she shouldn't be hanging out with,
1401
01:21:51,533 --> 01:21:52,534
and, um...
1402
01:21:53,326 --> 01:21:54,286
Ugh.
1403
01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:56,955
I don't know what happened.
1404
01:21:58,415 --> 01:22:00,917
Boy, sitting right next to Bob Dylan, man.
Whew.
1405
01:22:01,001 --> 01:22:03,044
I got a light if you got a smoke.
1406
01:22:03,753 --> 01:22:06,131
One time,
I got all dressed up as Bob,
1407
01:22:06,214 --> 01:22:08,008
which I would do periodically.
1408
01:22:08,091 --> 01:22:11,595
I used to put these little beard markings
all over and have a mustache on.
1409
01:22:11,678 --> 01:22:14,055
And then I'd put his hat on
1410
01:22:14,598 --> 01:22:16,099
and some whiteface.
1411
01:22:16,182 --> 01:22:18,268
♪ All the time you dress so fine ♪
1412
01:22:19,644 --> 01:22:22,772
♪ Threw the bums a dime in your prime... ♪
1413
01:22:22,856 --> 01:22:25,650
I walked over with
nobody really paying attention,
1414
01:22:25,734 --> 01:22:27,193
and I'd be Bob.
1415
01:22:27,277 --> 01:22:31,281
And there was this table of,
like, food and catering and coffee,
1416
01:22:31,364 --> 01:22:33,241
and Louie was there, and I said...
1417
01:22:33,325 --> 01:22:35,243
"Handsome, give me some coffee."
1418
01:22:35,994 --> 01:22:38,580
Instantly,
people got me some coffee like that.
1419
01:22:39,164 --> 01:22:42,042
"D'you want this? D'you want this?
You want milk? Do you want sugar?"
1420
01:22:42,125 --> 01:22:44,961
And I just had a cigarette in my hand,
going like that,
1421
01:22:45,045 --> 01:22:47,047
and they treated me
the way they treat Bob.
1422
01:22:47,130 --> 01:22:49,090
"D'you want this? D'you want that?
What can we do?"
1423
01:22:49,174 --> 01:22:50,300
It was amazing.
1424
01:22:51,009 --> 01:22:53,887
It was amazing
until finally I said something like,
1425
01:22:53,970 --> 01:22:57,223
"Oh, for Christ sake, Louie."
And then he realized.
1426
01:22:57,307 --> 01:23:00,602
Oh, yeah, and I had a little wig on
with my hair coming out underneath it.
1427
01:23:00,685 --> 01:23:02,937
Terrible.
1428
01:23:06,358 --> 01:23:09,778
It's like the court of
Henry VIII or something, you know?
1429
01:23:09,861 --> 01:23:12,864
Who's Anne Boleyn, you know?
Which one is gonna get the ax, you know?
1430
01:23:12,947 --> 01:23:16,493
You know what I mean?
You know, there's that kind of dynamic.
1431
01:23:16,576 --> 01:23:18,912
And people are maneuvering to get closer,
1432
01:23:18,995 --> 01:23:21,831
and then there are the people
who are using you to maneuver.
1433
01:23:21,915 --> 01:23:25,126
David Mansfield wanted to
sing a song with me, uh...
1434
01:23:25,210 --> 01:23:27,170
Ugh. God.
1435
01:23:27,253 --> 01:23:29,756
That, uh, a drummer did.
1436
01:23:29,839 --> 01:23:32,050
I didn't see what the point of it all was.
1437
01:23:33,718 --> 01:23:37,097
- What does makeup do for you?
- I don't know.
1438
01:23:37,180 --> 01:23:39,808
Just hides, you know,
the ugliness a little bit.
1439
01:23:42,060 --> 01:23:45,855
Everyone, of course,
you know, wanted their shot,
1440
01:23:45,939 --> 01:23:47,482
wanted their time in the sun.
1441
01:23:48,358 --> 01:23:50,944
But we all know that, you know,
you have to...
1442
01:23:51,027 --> 01:23:52,612
give for the good of the show.
1443
01:23:52,696 --> 01:23:54,781
And it was such an honor to be there,
1444
01:23:55,865 --> 01:23:57,325
so that was no problem.
1445
01:24:02,122 --> 01:24:04,708
Who were the people
you were closest with on the tour?
1446
01:24:04,791 --> 01:24:07,585
I know this sounds funny,
but I felt close to Bob.
1447
01:24:08,086 --> 01:24:11,297
I just always felt close to him
from the moment I met him.
1448
01:24:11,381 --> 01:24:14,300
Um, I'm sure many people
that feel that way.
1449
01:24:15,135 --> 01:24:16,136
Um...
1450
01:24:16,970 --> 01:24:20,098
I know Mick Ronson told me,
however, when I said, um...
1451
01:24:21,015 --> 01:24:23,309
you know, "Don't you love Bob?"
and he said, "I don't know.
1452
01:24:23,393 --> 01:24:24,644
He's never spoken to me."
1453
01:24:26,146 --> 01:24:29,399
Um, and then once we were
in Massachusetts,
1454
01:24:29,941 --> 01:24:31,568
and people were about to arrive.
1455
01:24:31,651 --> 01:24:34,529
I don't know who they were,
but not our little group.
1456
01:24:35,029 --> 01:24:38,658
Bob and I were alone in the basement,
and Bob said, "Ronee, help."
1457
01:24:38,742 --> 01:24:39,951
And I said, "Help what?"
1458
01:24:41,202 --> 01:24:45,165
And-- And I felt so bad about that
afterwards because I didn't mean to be...
1459
01:24:45,874 --> 01:24:49,878
cruel or thoughtless to Bob,
but I always thought, you know,
1460
01:24:49,961 --> 01:24:51,963
I had to treat him
just like a regular person
1461
01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:53,923
if I were going to be friends with him.
1462
01:24:55,842 --> 01:24:59,971
But later on, I understood a little more
what he might be asking help for.
1463
01:25:00,054 --> 01:25:01,389
What was he asking help for?
1464
01:25:01,473 --> 01:25:03,308
I think the onslaught of strangers.
1465
01:25:05,185 --> 01:25:07,437
Hello, take my picture, please!
1466
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:08,605
Hiya, man.
1467
01:25:13,985 --> 01:25:18,823
I was in the park
with another one of my modeling jobs.
1468
01:25:19,449 --> 01:25:21,451
Of course, the whole park
is full of everybody doing
1469
01:25:21,534 --> 01:25:25,872
whatever they're doing,
and suddenly I hear, "Hey, KISS,"
1470
01:25:25,955 --> 01:25:27,916
and I'm just, of course, mortified.
1471
01:25:27,999 --> 01:25:29,417
And then I realize...
1472
01:25:30,001 --> 01:25:31,711
that it's him.
1473
01:25:31,795 --> 01:25:34,464
So, of course, I'm even more mortified.
1474
01:25:35,965 --> 01:25:38,134
I think I met her with her mother.
1475
01:25:38,218 --> 01:25:39,552
She was a nice girl.
1476
01:25:39,636 --> 01:25:40,470
Uh...
1477
01:25:41,554 --> 01:25:43,306
She was so young, anyway, you know.
1478
01:25:44,849 --> 01:25:46,351
But she seemed old for her age.
1479
01:25:48,603 --> 01:25:50,980
Everybody wants to be a movie star...
1480
01:25:51,064 --> 01:25:51,940
don't they?
1481
01:25:52,982 --> 01:25:55,777
But, you know, when you live
in the middle of nowhere,
1482
01:25:55,860 --> 01:25:58,571
when you tell somebody you wanna
be a movie star, they think you're...
1483
01:25:59,322 --> 01:26:00,156
insane.
1484
01:26:02,033 --> 01:26:04,160
She, uh, used to tell me,
1485
01:26:04,244 --> 01:26:06,746
uh, someday
she's going to be a famous actress.
1486
01:26:07,539 --> 01:26:08,498
Uh, okay.
1487
01:26:09,290 --> 01:26:11,835
A couple of days later he said, um...
1488
01:26:13,211 --> 01:26:14,295
"You know, hey...
1489
01:26:15,713 --> 01:26:19,467
how about if you just
come on the road with us?"
1490
01:26:21,302 --> 01:26:24,681
And I thought, "And do what?"
1491
01:26:27,058 --> 01:26:29,686
"You know, you could
help out with the costumes
1492
01:26:29,769 --> 01:26:32,397
and help out backstage and stuff."
1493
01:26:33,481 --> 01:26:36,484
- "Just Like a Woman."
- What?
1494
01:26:36,568 --> 01:26:38,778
- "Just Like a Woman"?
- Yeah!
1495
01:26:38,862 --> 01:26:41,322
- Do we know that song?
- I don't know, we could fake it.
1496
01:26:41,406 --> 01:26:43,449
It was one of the first shows.
1497
01:26:44,284 --> 01:26:46,995
- I was backstage.
- ...we'll try it.
1498
01:26:47,078 --> 01:26:49,289
Joan Baez had asked me to iron her shirt.
1499
01:26:50,248 --> 01:26:53,710
A second later I hear, "Hey... Sharon."
1500
01:26:54,794 --> 01:26:58,882
And there was this, um,
really decrepit old piano
1501
01:26:58,965 --> 01:27:03,887
shoved off to the side,
and Bob was kinda hunched over it.
1502
01:27:03,970 --> 01:27:06,097
And he gives me that-- that look.
1503
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,351
He's like, "I wrote a song about you."
1504
01:27:10,852 --> 01:27:15,773
♪ Nobody feels any pain ♪
1505
01:27:18,276 --> 01:27:23,031
♪ Tonight as I stand inside the rain ♪
1506
01:27:24,282 --> 01:27:26,159
And then he gets to the line...
1507
01:27:26,868 --> 01:27:32,206
♪ And she makes love just like a woman ♪
1508
01:27:34,042 --> 01:27:36,169
♪ But she breaks ♪
1509
01:27:36,794 --> 01:27:42,467
♪ Just like a little girl ♪
1510
01:27:44,636 --> 01:27:49,891
I just broke out crying. You know?
Full-on tears.
1511
01:27:49,974 --> 01:27:53,144
I get-- I think T Bone's the one
who told me that the song was...
1512
01:27:53,227 --> 01:27:55,688
ten years old.
1513
01:27:55,772 --> 01:27:57,315
"Just Like a Woman."
1514
01:27:57,398 --> 01:27:59,317
Yeah!
1515
01:27:59,776 --> 01:28:01,110
What's just like a woman?
1516
01:28:01,194 --> 01:28:02,695
What's just like a woman?
1517
01:28:02,779 --> 01:28:05,448
Nothin' like a woman.
1518
01:28:11,537 --> 01:28:13,206
Do a protest song!
1519
01:28:17,961 --> 01:28:19,420
Yeah, here's the one for you.
1520
01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:50,284
♪ Oh, sister, when I come
To lie in your arms ♪
1521
01:28:52,453 --> 01:28:57,083
♪ You should not treat me
Like a stranger ♪
1522
01:28:59,627 --> 01:29:05,466
♪ Our Father would not like
The way that you act ♪
1523
01:29:06,759 --> 01:29:11,806
♪ And you must realize the danger ♪
1524
01:29:42,628 --> 01:29:47,383
♪ Oh, sister, am I not a brother to you ♪
1525
01:29:49,761 --> 01:29:55,099
♪ And one deserving of affection? ♪
1526
01:29:57,060 --> 01:30:02,398
♪ And is our purpose not the same
On this earth ♪
1527
01:30:04,150 --> 01:30:09,197
♪ To love and follow His direction? ♪
1528
01:30:39,519 --> 01:30:42,188
♪ We grew up together ♪
1529
01:30:42,271 --> 01:30:45,233
♪ From the cradle to the grave ♪
1530
01:30:46,317 --> 01:30:49,112
♪ We died and were reborn ♪
1531
01:30:49,195 --> 01:30:56,160
♪ And then mysteriously saved ♪
1532
01:31:01,999 --> 01:31:07,213
♪ Oh, sister, when I come
To knock on your door ♪
1533
01:31:08,965 --> 01:31:14,053
♪ Don't turn away, you'll create sorrow ♪
1534
01:31:15,972 --> 01:31:21,269
♪ Time is an ocean
But it ends at the shore ♪
1535
01:31:23,020 --> 01:31:27,650
♪ You may not see me tomorrow ♪
1536
01:32:06,814 --> 01:32:08,858
Bob Dylan for president!
1537
01:32:11,527 --> 01:32:13,112
President of what?
1538
01:32:15,615 --> 01:32:18,159
Was he in a special mode
of singing at that time?
1539
01:32:18,242 --> 01:32:20,203
Was he different
than you'd seen him before?
1540
01:32:20,286 --> 01:32:22,413
It was-- There was
a Rolling Thunder energy.
1541
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,250
That was his invention, you know,
and all these people showed up.
1542
01:32:26,876 --> 01:32:27,752
So, yeah.
1543
01:32:31,214 --> 01:32:33,674
- What do you got, Larry?
- The tour was very open-ended,
1544
01:32:33,758 --> 01:32:36,302
so whatever city they went to,
1545
01:32:36,385 --> 01:32:38,721
if there was a local friend and musician,
1546
01:32:38,804 --> 01:32:40,848
there would be a slot for them
to come up and play.
1547
01:32:40,932 --> 01:32:43,601
For example, uh, in Connecticut,
Joni Mitchell...
1548
01:32:44,185 --> 01:32:46,312
came up, did a couple of songs,
1549
01:32:46,395 --> 01:32:48,898
and loved it so much that she
stayed on for the rest of the tour.
1550
01:32:48,981 --> 01:32:51,359
She just became part of the...
this experience.
1551
01:32:56,781 --> 01:32:58,908
How did you two end up on the road?
1552
01:32:58,991 --> 01:33:00,451
- I don't know--
- I came through Allen.
1553
01:33:00,534 --> 01:33:02,411
She came through Allen Ginsberg.
1554
01:33:02,495 --> 01:33:05,456
Um... I had finished a project and...
1555
01:33:06,165 --> 01:33:06,999
was, you know,
1556
01:33:07,083 --> 01:33:08,793
in a kind of a postnatal state
1557
01:33:08,876 --> 01:33:11,587
and wanted to come and see a concert,
1558
01:33:11,671 --> 01:33:14,340
and, uh, got sucked into it.
1559
01:33:14,423 --> 01:33:17,009
You know, just shelved everything that...
1560
01:33:17,551 --> 01:33:20,680
Everything else seemed, uh,
minorly important
1561
01:33:20,763 --> 01:33:23,015
compared to this, like, as an experience,
1562
01:33:23,099 --> 01:33:27,061
and an experiment in communal
existence. You know?
1563
01:33:27,937 --> 01:33:28,980
What do you think?
1564
01:33:29,063 --> 01:33:31,482
I think you've gotta come
on the stage right now.
1565
01:33:31,565 --> 01:33:32,984
Okay, I'm coming.
1566
01:33:34,402 --> 01:33:37,280
♪ Ah ♪
1567
01:33:47,873 --> 01:33:50,751
Some days, I'd see it
as this kind of allegorical thing
1568
01:33:50,835 --> 01:33:55,256
or as this group of pilgrims
on a kind of journey and quest.
1569
01:33:55,339 --> 01:33:58,884
Of course, you-- you know, you--
the deal is you find yourself back home,
1570
01:33:58,968 --> 01:34:00,928
but you have to take this whole journey.
1571
01:34:01,470 --> 01:34:04,515
And then when you open it up
to, you know, here you are in America,
1572
01:34:04,598 --> 01:34:07,852
and-- and all the things
that Bob seemed to care about
1573
01:34:07,935 --> 01:34:10,521
in terms of these other...
the-- the folk culture
1574
01:34:10,604 --> 01:34:12,273
is getting thrown in there.
1575
01:34:14,525 --> 01:34:16,736
And that's another weave.
This sort of...
1576
01:34:16,819 --> 01:34:20,448
This-- This American yearning
for, I don't know, redemption.
1577
01:34:21,866 --> 01:34:26,120
♪... circle be unbroken ♪
1578
01:34:26,203 --> 01:34:30,583
♪ By and by, Lord, by and by ♪
1579
01:34:31,584 --> 01:34:32,752
♪ There's a better... ♪
1580
01:34:32,835 --> 01:34:36,505
Columbus didn't discover America.
There were people here already.
1581
01:34:36,589 --> 01:34:40,468
Even though they stole most everything
they could get their hands on.
1582
01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:46,057
Our land, children, women, whatever,
they took it.
1583
01:34:46,849 --> 01:34:48,809
Left us very poor people.
1584
01:34:48,893 --> 01:34:51,395
A lot of our people homeless
in our own country.
1585
01:34:52,313 --> 01:34:54,190
But the best things of all,
1586
01:34:55,066 --> 01:34:56,359
that they had no value,
1587
01:34:56,942 --> 01:34:58,778
was our way of life.
1588
01:35:06,494 --> 01:35:09,622
It's beautiful music
when that thunder rolls.
1589
01:35:10,873 --> 01:35:13,209
And that's the way I got my name.
1590
01:35:13,292 --> 01:35:16,837
I used to scream like a little eagle
is what they told me.
1591
01:35:16,921 --> 01:35:20,925
Even when I was a baby in diapers,
run right out in the storm.
1592
01:35:21,717 --> 01:35:22,676
Yeah, I love it.
1593
01:35:23,260 --> 01:35:26,972
And that lightning flash,
there's a lot of power in it, I tell you.
1594
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,019
This tour was named
after Chief Rolling Thunder.
1595
01:35:32,478 --> 01:35:37,566
So, it made sense that we go
to the Tuscarora Indian Reservation and...
1596
01:35:38,984 --> 01:35:40,027
and play.
1597
01:35:40,111 --> 01:35:42,154
We're gonna let our guests get their food.
1598
01:35:42,238 --> 01:35:45,825
I was just told it's gonna be
cafeteria style.
1599
01:35:46,534 --> 01:35:48,911
Bob was seated
right across the table from me,
1600
01:35:48,994 --> 01:35:49,954
and he said,
1601
01:35:50,037 --> 01:35:54,542
"You remember Peter's song
about Ira Hayes?"
1602
01:35:55,376 --> 01:35:59,046
And even today,
there are things to write about...
1603
01:36:00,047 --> 01:36:02,216
for a cowboy, and I'm a cowboy.
1604
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,052
An Indian, and I'm part Indian.
1605
01:36:05,136 --> 01:36:06,595
Or a human being.
1606
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:09,682
This is a song about a human being,
1607
01:36:11,183 --> 01:36:12,768
who is also an Indian.
1608
01:36:15,354 --> 01:36:17,648
And if you don't remember his name,
1609
01:36:18,399 --> 01:36:21,527
I think you may after this song.
1610
01:36:21,610 --> 01:36:24,530
It's called "Ira Hayes."
1611
01:36:30,953 --> 01:36:34,290
- Where would you want me to stand?
- Anywhere you want. It'll be all right.
1612
01:36:57,938 --> 01:37:01,859
♪ Come gather 'round me, people
And a story I will tell ♪
1613
01:37:02,693 --> 01:37:06,864
♪ About Ira Hayes, an Indian
You should remember well ♪
1614
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:12,453
♪ From the tribe of Pima Indians
A proud and a peaceful band ♪
1615
01:37:13,287 --> 01:37:17,291
♪ They farmed the Phoenix Valley
In the Arizona land ♪
1616
01:37:18,834 --> 01:37:23,797
♪ Down their ditches for a thousand years
The running water rushed ♪
1617
01:37:23,881 --> 01:37:26,467
♪ Till the white man
Stole the water rights ♪
1618
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:28,511
♪ And the running water hushed ♪
1619
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:36,519
♪ Now Ira's folks were hungry
And their farms grew crops of weeds ♪
1620
01:37:37,353 --> 01:37:42,608
♪ But when war came, Ira volunteered
And forgot the white man's greed ♪
1621
01:37:43,609 --> 01:37:48,113
♪ Now they started up Iwo Jima hill
With two hundred and fifty men ♪
1622
01:37:48,864 --> 01:37:53,202
♪ But only twenty-seven lived
To walk back down that hill again ♪
1623
01:37:53,786 --> 01:37:58,040
♪ And when the fight was over
And Old Glory raised ♪
1624
01:37:58,791 --> 01:38:02,920
♪ One of the men that held it high
Was the Indian Ira Hayes ♪
1625
01:38:03,837 --> 01:38:06,549
♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪
1626
01:38:06,632 --> 01:38:08,634
♪ He won't answer anymore ♪
1627
01:38:09,385 --> 01:38:11,512
♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪
1628
01:38:11,595 --> 01:38:13,973
♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪
1629
01:38:14,765 --> 01:38:17,351
♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪
1630
01:38:17,434 --> 01:38:19,728
♪ He won't answer anymore ♪
1631
01:38:20,396 --> 01:38:22,690
♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪
1632
01:38:22,773 --> 01:38:25,484
♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪
1633
01:38:26,694 --> 01:38:29,905
This is a
United States diplomatic medal.
1634
01:38:30,489 --> 01:38:32,324
It has-- It has, uh...
1635
01:38:33,367 --> 01:38:38,497
an Indian and the first diplomatic team
of-- of the United States,
1636
01:38:38,581 --> 01:38:43,752
was given in Philadelphia
on July the 4th, 1776.
1637
01:38:44,587 --> 01:38:47,506
Also, been told that there's a possibility
1638
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:49,800
that these could be the same beads,
1639
01:38:49,883 --> 01:38:52,761
these, uh, larger ones, that Peter Minuit
1640
01:38:53,512 --> 01:38:56,599
traded the--
our people for Manhattan Island.
1641
01:38:56,682 --> 01:38:59,143
Will you accept this?
1642
01:39:00,728 --> 01:39:02,646
Thanks for everything.
What do you say, folks?
1643
01:39:05,024 --> 01:39:06,775
But somewhere along the line,
1644
01:39:06,859 --> 01:39:08,402
something has failed, and...
1645
01:39:08,485 --> 01:39:12,197
we hope that this country
can straighten out before too long,
1646
01:39:12,281 --> 01:39:15,618
because there are many things
that's going to happen to shape
1647
01:39:15,701 --> 01:39:17,536
not only this country but the world.
1648
01:39:19,163 --> 01:39:19,997
Bob.
1649
01:39:21,165 --> 01:39:22,916
What you-- You guys still here?
1650
01:39:24,376 --> 01:39:26,337
Can I ask just one question?
1651
01:39:32,593 --> 01:39:35,679
♪ William Zanzinger
Killed poor Hattie Carroll ♪
1652
01:39:36,347 --> 01:39:40,225
♪ With a cane that he twirled
Round his diamond ring finger ♪
1653
01:39:40,309 --> 01:39:43,729
♪ At a Baltimore hotel
Society gath'rin' ♪
1654
01:39:44,313 --> 01:39:48,192
♪ And the cops were called in
And his weapon took from him ♪
1655
01:39:48,275 --> 01:39:51,987
♪ As they rode him in custody
Down to the station ♪
1656
01:39:52,071 --> 01:39:56,283
♪ And booked William Zanzinger
For first-degree murder ♪
1657
01:39:59,161 --> 01:40:02,998
♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace ♪
1658
01:40:03,082 --> 01:40:06,001
♪ And criticize all fear ♪
1659
01:40:07,252 --> 01:40:11,256
♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪
1660
01:40:11,340 --> 01:40:14,760
♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪
1661
01:40:20,307 --> 01:40:24,687
Everything is forgiven
whenever I would see Bob sing.
1662
01:40:25,771 --> 01:40:27,439
It is so...
1663
01:40:27,523 --> 01:40:28,857
the charisma...
1664
01:40:29,942 --> 01:40:32,319
that he has, I've never seen anywhere,
1665
01:40:32,945 --> 01:40:34,321
before or since.
1666
01:40:35,197 --> 01:40:38,075
And the beauty of those songs...
1667
01:40:39,952 --> 01:40:41,078
I don't.
1668
01:40:41,161 --> 01:40:43,580
Jack Kerouac, uh, writes like ticker tape.
1669
01:40:44,581 --> 01:40:46,709
I used to see you write like ticker tape.
1670
01:40:47,668 --> 01:40:51,255
I used to feed you salad and red wine
while you wrote like ticker tape.
1671
01:40:51,839 --> 01:40:52,715
Yeah, I remember.
1672
01:40:52,798 --> 01:40:55,008
Brilliant stuff. William Zanzinger.
1673
01:40:55,092 --> 01:40:57,177
Overlooking the Pacific.
1674
01:40:57,886 --> 01:41:00,097
The wild Pacific Ocean in Big Sur, right?
1675
01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:02,057
- William Zanzinger.
- Where was that written?
1676
01:41:02,141 --> 01:41:04,768
"Hattie Carroll." One of the
best songs I think you ever wrote.
1677
01:41:04,852 --> 01:41:06,520
I think it's one
of the best songs you sing.
1678
01:41:06,603 --> 01:41:09,898
Thank you.
How come you take it on the stage now?
1679
01:41:09,982 --> 01:41:12,151
'Cause you won't sing it.
1680
01:41:13,277 --> 01:41:14,236
Oh, Bob.
1681
01:41:15,279 --> 01:41:16,113
Sure, I will.
1682
01:41:17,239 --> 01:41:18,991
Just 'cause I screwed up the words.
1683
01:41:19,074 --> 01:41:20,909
- Well, it really...
- How do you like my dress?
1684
01:41:20,993 --> 01:41:23,704
...displeases me that you--
that you went off and got married
1685
01:41:23,787 --> 01:41:25,038
and-- and, uh...
1686
01:41:26,665 --> 01:41:29,168
You went off and got married first
and didn't tell me.
1687
01:41:29,710 --> 01:41:31,712
Yeah, but--
1688
01:41:35,215 --> 01:41:38,427
- You should have told me or something.
- But I married the woman I loved.
1689
01:41:38,510 --> 01:41:39,470
I know, that's true.
1690
01:41:40,596 --> 01:41:43,432
That's true.
And I married the man I thought I loved.
1691
01:41:48,312 --> 01:41:50,272
See, that's what thought
has to do with it.
1692
01:41:50,355 --> 01:41:51,857
Thought will fuck you up.
1693
01:41:53,233 --> 01:41:54,568
You're right. I agree with that.
1694
01:41:54,651 --> 01:41:56,904
See, it's heart, it's not-- it's not head.
1695
01:42:05,746 --> 01:42:08,582
♪ Hattie Carroll was
A maid of the kitchen ♪
1696
01:42:08,665 --> 01:42:12,252
♪ She was fifty-one years old
And gave birth to ten children ♪
1697
01:42:12,753 --> 01:42:16,840
♪ She cleaned up the dishes
Hauled out the garbage ♪
1698
01:42:16,924 --> 01:42:19,843
♪ And never sat once
At the head of the table ♪
1699
01:42:20,636 --> 01:42:23,972
♪ She just cleaned up
All the food from the table ♪
1700
01:42:24,556 --> 01:42:27,851
♪ And emptied the ashtrays
On a whole other level ♪
1701
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:32,189
♪ Got killed by a blow
Lay slain by a cane ♪
1702
01:42:32,272 --> 01:42:36,235
♪ That sailed through the air
And came down through the room ♪
1703
01:42:36,318 --> 01:42:39,947
♪ Doomed and determined
To destroy all the gentle ♪
1704
01:42:40,030 --> 01:42:43,909
♪ And she never done nothing
To William Zanzinger ♪
1705
01:42:46,829 --> 01:42:53,544
♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace
And criticize all fears ♪
1706
01:42:54,837 --> 01:42:58,799
♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪
1707
01:42:58,882 --> 01:43:02,094
♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪
1708
01:43:26,034 --> 01:43:29,580
♪ In the courtroom of honor
The judge pounded his gavel ♪
1709
01:43:30,122 --> 01:43:33,834
♪ To show that all's equal
And that the courts are on the level ♪
1710
01:43:33,917 --> 01:43:37,337
♪ That the strings in the books
Ain't pulled and persuaded ♪
1711
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,800
♪ And that even the nobles
Get properly handled ♪
1712
01:43:41,884 --> 01:43:45,679
♪ Once that the cops
Have chased after and caught 'em ♪
1713
01:43:45,762 --> 01:43:48,974
♪ That the ladder of law
Has no top and no bottom ♪
1714
01:43:49,683 --> 01:43:53,437
♪ Stared at the person
Who killed for no reason ♪
1715
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:57,399
♪ Who just happened to be feelin'
That way without warnin' ♪
1716
01:43:57,482 --> 01:44:01,653
♪ And he spoke through his cloak
So deep and distinguished ♪
1717
01:44:01,737 --> 01:44:05,365
♪ Handed out strongly
For penalty and repentance ♪
1718
01:44:05,449 --> 01:44:09,411
♪ William Zanzinger
With a six-month sentence ♪
1719
01:44:12,039 --> 01:44:15,876
♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace ♪
1720
01:44:15,959 --> 01:44:18,879
♪ And criticize all fear ♪
1721
01:44:20,213 --> 01:44:24,092
♪ Bury the rag deep in your face ♪
1722
01:44:24,176 --> 01:44:27,179
♪ Now is the time for your tears ♪
1723
01:44:51,119 --> 01:44:53,705
♪ But sleep won't come ♪
1724
01:44:55,415 --> 01:44:57,542
♪ The whole night through ♪
1725
01:44:59,670 --> 01:45:03,882
♪ Your cheatin' heart ♪
1726
01:45:03,966 --> 01:45:05,926
♪ Will tell on you ♪
1727
01:45:08,345 --> 01:45:11,598
♪ You'll walk the floor ♪
1728
01:45:12,683 --> 01:45:15,268
♪ And shout my name ♪
1729
01:45:16,979 --> 01:45:18,438
The hours are creeping down.
1730
01:45:18,522 --> 01:45:21,149
- We got to get the story.
- I'm getting it!
1731
01:45:21,233 --> 01:45:24,444
I'm only up all fuckin' night
when the hours are creeping down.
1732
01:45:25,070 --> 01:45:27,072
Well, I mean,
you had two fuckin' weeks, Larry.
1733
01:45:27,155 --> 01:45:27,990
To do what?
1734
01:45:28,073 --> 01:45:31,243
- To get a story, instead of--
- I gave you a story, I gave you--
1735
01:45:31,326 --> 01:45:33,453
That had a lot of fuckin' holes in it.
1736
01:45:33,537 --> 01:45:35,956
- Well, but you're a bureaucrat.
- Oh, bullshit.
1737
01:45:36,039 --> 01:45:37,916
- Where do you get that crap?
- You ask--
1738
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,960
You are a bureaucrat.
You ask me fuckin'...
1739
01:45:40,043 --> 01:45:41,962
uh, Wall Street Journal questions.
1740
01:45:42,045 --> 01:45:44,006
- Bullshit.
- Those are the questions--
1741
01:45:44,089 --> 01:45:45,799
Everybody in the fuckin'
country wants to know--
1742
01:45:45,882 --> 01:45:49,428
You're asking me
music business questions, man.
1743
01:45:49,511 --> 01:45:50,679
That's part of it, isn't it?
1744
01:45:50,762 --> 01:45:52,431
But that's not
what the kids wanna read.
1745
01:45:52,514 --> 01:45:55,308
- How do you know?
- I know kids, man! I ask them.
1746
01:45:55,392 --> 01:45:59,146
♪ ...and call my name ♪
1747
01:45:59,229 --> 01:46:02,315
Rolling Stone magazine
was interested in the economics,
1748
01:46:02,399 --> 01:46:04,317
how much are these people getting paid...
1749
01:46:04,401 --> 01:46:07,112
You know, why are they playing
bigger halls as the tour went on?
1750
01:46:07,195 --> 01:46:09,156
Those were the kind of questions
they were asking,
1751
01:46:09,239 --> 01:46:10,657
and I didn't give a shit about that.
1752
01:46:10,741 --> 01:46:14,745
I mean, what I was concerned
with was, you know, chronicling this...
1753
01:46:15,620 --> 01:46:17,497
this, uh, cultural event.
1754
01:46:18,874 --> 01:46:21,209
- Can I offer you a beer?
- Sure.
1755
01:46:23,211 --> 01:46:24,963
- There we go.
- Thank you.
1756
01:46:26,339 --> 01:46:29,009
There ain't too many
Medicis around these days,
1757
01:46:29,092 --> 01:46:32,304
and whether you're out on the road
with a lot of people,
1758
01:46:32,387 --> 01:46:33,680
or you're making a movie,
1759
01:46:33,764 --> 01:46:37,059
or any kind of creative endeavor
that takes resources,
1760
01:46:37,893 --> 01:46:38,894
you need money.
1761
01:46:38,977 --> 01:46:41,438
And you gotta go to somebody who believes
1762
01:46:41,521 --> 01:46:44,524
that they're gonna get their money back
and maybe a little more.
1763
01:46:44,608 --> 01:46:47,611
So, yeah,
there's always this natural tension
1764
01:46:47,694 --> 01:46:48,945
between art and commerce.
1765
01:46:49,029 --> 01:46:51,031
Okay, how 'bout--
We gotta cut one of Jack's.
1766
01:46:51,114 --> 01:46:54,201
- He says to cut "Muleskinner."
- He wants to cut "Muleskinner."
1767
01:46:54,284 --> 01:46:56,244
All right. Okay.
1768
01:46:57,079 --> 01:46:58,747
I'll talk to Bob about this.
1769
01:46:59,748 --> 01:47:02,542
- All right, Allen's gonna do something?
- Five minutes. Very brief.
1770
01:47:02,626 --> 01:47:05,378
You got a whole different audience.
Did you look at those people?
1771
01:47:05,462 --> 01:47:08,381
They're not familiar with Dylan
or Baez or anybody else.
1772
01:47:08,465 --> 01:47:09,299
Right.
1773
01:47:09,382 --> 01:47:11,718
If you go up and spill poetry
for any length of time,
1774
01:47:11,802 --> 01:47:13,762
they're gonna be, you know,
gone, you know?
1775
01:47:13,845 --> 01:47:15,347
Make it two minutes, Allen.
1776
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:17,265
Two minutes is plenty,
I'm telling you.
1777
01:47:17,349 --> 01:47:18,892
- Okay.
- What about more cuts?
1778
01:47:18,975 --> 01:47:20,894
- Two minutes.
- We're still cutting.
1779
01:47:20,977 --> 01:47:23,230
The show was originally three hours.
1780
01:47:23,313 --> 01:47:26,399
Ginsberg, who appeared
in the show originally,
1781
01:47:27,025 --> 01:47:30,612
there was not enough time for him
to perform during the show,
1782
01:47:30,695 --> 01:47:32,739
so his section was cut.
1783
01:47:36,743 --> 01:47:39,788
He and Peter Orlovsky
became the baggage handlers.
1784
01:47:40,956 --> 01:47:44,835
We would put our bags outside the door,
and he would take them every day.
1785
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:47,087
You're a fuckin' luggage handler?
1786
01:47:47,170 --> 01:47:49,673
- God, yeah, and I give massages sometimes.
- You're a poet!
1787
01:47:49,756 --> 01:47:52,342
I make myself useful around, on the, uh...
1788
01:47:53,051 --> 01:47:57,430
Uh... helping Chris with the newsletter
and putting out the newsletter.
1789
01:47:57,514 --> 01:47:58,932
- You do errands?
- Errands, right.
1790
01:47:59,015 --> 01:48:00,559
I can't believe this shit.
1791
01:48:00,642 --> 01:48:03,395
What kind of tour is this?
You're a fuckin' great poet, Peter.
1792
01:48:03,478 --> 01:48:06,898
I'm learning-- Been practicing banjo,
and I've been sitting every morning...
1793
01:48:06,982 --> 01:48:10,193
Uh, tomorrow morning,
we're gonna sit with Allen for one hour.
1794
01:48:10,277 --> 01:48:12,612
- To do what?
- After we wake up, sit and meditate.
1795
01:48:15,115 --> 01:48:17,450
At a party
at Gordon Lightfoot's house,
1796
01:48:17,534 --> 01:48:18,994
Toronto, Canada.
1797
01:48:45,145 --> 01:48:48,523
Joni Mitchell, she would
go out and do her new songs.
1798
01:48:48,607 --> 01:48:50,233
She wouldn't do any hits.
1799
01:48:50,317 --> 01:48:53,486
And the audience reaction
was a little sort of muted
1800
01:48:53,570 --> 01:48:54,863
for these new songs,
1801
01:48:54,946 --> 01:48:57,449
as it usually is
when artists try to do new songs.
1802
01:48:57,532 --> 01:48:59,576
And I remember, she came off and she said,
1803
01:48:59,659 --> 01:49:02,954
"McGuinn, I don't know why
I'm so scared out there. I just don't..."
1804
01:49:03,038 --> 01:49:04,581
I said, "You're just doing new songs.
1805
01:49:04,664 --> 01:49:06,458
You ought to do something
that they recognize,
1806
01:49:06,541 --> 01:49:08,376
and then they'll, you know, loosen up."
1807
01:49:08,460 --> 01:49:11,755
She said, "No, no, I-- I can't do that.
I think that's a bad idea."
1808
01:49:18,053 --> 01:49:22,224
I admired her for her courage
to do the new stuff only.
1809
01:49:24,643 --> 01:49:26,937
Joni wrote this song
about this tour,
1810
01:49:27,020 --> 01:49:29,648
and on this tour, and for this tour.
1811
01:49:49,042 --> 01:49:50,210
Okay, D-minor now.
1812
01:49:54,631 --> 01:49:56,091
Yeah, some dissonance.
1813
01:49:57,384 --> 01:50:03,473
I had been loudly proclaiming
that my three favorite male songwriters
1814
01:50:03,556 --> 01:50:06,184
were Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen,
and Kinky Friedman.
1815
01:50:06,977 --> 01:50:11,898
So, Joni started interrogating me
backstage one day, saying,
1816
01:50:12,649 --> 01:50:14,234
"What do you mean, male?
1817
01:50:14,317 --> 01:50:16,486
Why do you make that distinction,
male songwriters?
1818
01:50:16,569 --> 01:50:18,363
I mean, what about my stuff?
1819
01:50:18,446 --> 01:50:21,366
I mean, don't you characterize
my stuff, like, you know,
1820
01:50:21,449 --> 01:50:23,910
in the same league as Bob
and Leonard Cohen?"
1821
01:50:26,579 --> 01:50:28,665
And we got into
this long discussion about,
1822
01:50:28,748 --> 01:50:32,210
well, the male versus female perspective,
and anima-animus,
1823
01:50:32,294 --> 01:50:34,838
and, you know, male-female dynamic,
and everything, you know.
1824
01:50:34,921 --> 01:50:38,758
But it became this long,
drawn-out confrontation,
1825
01:50:38,842 --> 01:50:40,302
and we bonded on that.
1826
01:50:41,469 --> 01:50:43,179
♪ No regrets, Coyote ♪
1827
01:50:43,888 --> 01:50:46,933
♪ We just come from such different sets
Of circumstance ♪
1828
01:50:47,017 --> 01:50:48,727
♪ I'm up all night in the studios ♪
1829
01:50:48,810 --> 01:50:52,480
♪ And you're up early on your ranch ♪
1830
01:50:53,023 --> 01:50:55,400
♪ Brushing out a broodmare's tail ♪
1831
01:50:55,483 --> 01:50:57,068
♪ While the sun is ascending ♪
1832
01:50:57,152 --> 01:51:00,989
♪ And I'll just be getting home
With my reel-to-reel ♪
1833
01:51:01,573 --> 01:51:03,283
♪ There's no comprehending ♪
1834
01:51:04,034 --> 01:51:06,619
♪ Just how close
To the bone and the skin ♪
1835
01:51:06,703 --> 01:51:09,456
♪ And the eyes and the lips you can get ♪
1836
01:51:09,914 --> 01:51:12,417
♪ And still feel so alone ♪
1837
01:51:12,959 --> 01:51:15,086
♪ And still feel related ♪
1838
01:51:15,545 --> 01:51:17,881
♪ Like stations in a relay ♪
1839
01:51:17,964 --> 01:51:20,967
♪ You're not a hit-and-run driver
No, no ♪
1840
01:51:21,593 --> 01:51:23,178
♪ Racing away ♪
1841
01:51:24,262 --> 01:51:26,097
♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪
1842
01:51:26,681 --> 01:51:31,436
♪ A prisoner of the white lines
On the freeway ♪
1843
01:51:41,446 --> 01:51:43,490
♪ We saw a farmhouse burning down ♪
1844
01:51:44,324 --> 01:51:47,077
♪ In the middle of nowhere
In the middle of the night ♪
1845
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,496
♪ And we rolled right past that tragedy ♪
1846
01:51:49,579 --> 01:51:52,582
♪ Till we came to some roadside lights ♪
1847
01:51:52,665 --> 01:51:55,043
♪ And a local band was playing ♪
1848
01:51:55,126 --> 01:51:58,421
♪ Locals were mincin'
And shakin' on the floor ♪
1849
01:51:58,505 --> 01:52:00,006
♪ The next thing I know ♪
1850
01:52:01,299 --> 01:52:02,842
♪ That Coyote's at my door ♪
1851
01:52:03,927 --> 01:52:07,055
♪ And he pins me in a corner
And he won't take no ♪
1852
01:52:07,138 --> 01:52:08,973
♪ He drags me out on the dance floor ♪
1853
01:52:09,057 --> 01:52:12,310
♪ And we're dancin' close and slow ♪
1854
01:52:12,394 --> 01:52:14,771
♪ He's got a woman at home ♪
1855
01:52:14,854 --> 01:52:18,358
♪ One for the night
And now he wants one for the day ♪
1856
01:52:18,441 --> 01:52:22,529
♪ Oh, why'd you have to get so drunk
And lead me on that way? ♪
1857
01:52:23,738 --> 01:52:25,657
♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪
1858
01:52:26,324 --> 01:52:30,495
♪ A prisoner of the white lines
And the freeway ♪
1859
01:52:58,982 --> 01:53:00,608
Let's call Hopper, man.
1860
01:53:00,692 --> 01:53:02,485
- Fuck yeah.
- Let me change channels.
1861
01:53:02,569 --> 01:53:04,279
Why do you have that?
1862
01:53:04,362 --> 01:53:05,905
What are you on, channel 31?
1863
01:53:05,989 --> 01:53:07,949
- Uh, give me, uh...
- Okay.
1864
01:53:08,032 --> 01:53:08,867
Okay.
1865
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:11,995
♪ I took my troubles
Down to Madame Rue ♪
1866
01:53:12,912 --> 01:53:15,999
♪ You know that gypsy
With the gold-capped tooth ♪
1867
01:53:16,583 --> 01:53:19,919
♪ She's got a pad
Down on Thirty-Fourth and Vine ♪
1868
01:53:20,420 --> 01:53:25,592
♪ Sellin' little bottles
Of Love Potion Number Nine ♪
1869
01:53:25,675 --> 01:53:27,093
What poetry is,
1870
01:53:27,969 --> 01:53:30,889
the natural object, where we are now,
1871
01:53:30,972 --> 01:53:32,724
is always adequate symbol,
1872
01:53:32,807 --> 01:53:35,977
so you don't have
to invent romantic myths,
1873
01:53:36,060 --> 01:53:38,730
diamond dancers on oceansides.
1874
01:53:39,981 --> 01:53:44,486
The scratching of the pen
or the noise in the back of the bar
1875
01:53:44,569 --> 01:53:45,695
is part of the music.
1876
01:53:47,238 --> 01:53:50,950
♪ She bent down, turned around
And gave me a wink ♪
1877
01:53:51,034 --> 01:53:54,662
♪ She said, "I'm gonna mix it up
Right here in the sink" ♪
1878
01:53:54,746 --> 01:53:56,664
♪ It smelled like turpentine... ♪
1879
01:53:56,748 --> 01:53:59,876
I've never had more faith in America
1880
01:54:00,543 --> 01:54:01,586
than I do today.
1881
01:54:02,378 --> 01:54:03,671
We have an America
1882
01:54:04,214 --> 01:54:05,924
that, in Bob Dylan's phrase,
1883
01:54:06,466 --> 01:54:08,218
is busy being born,
1884
01:54:09,552 --> 01:54:10,803
not busy dying.
1885
01:54:14,182 --> 01:54:17,018
I was very enamored of Jimmy Carter.
1886
01:54:17,101 --> 01:54:21,022
He-- I thought he was a really
soulful, interesting guy,
1887
01:54:21,105 --> 01:54:22,273
and he liked me.
1888
01:54:22,815 --> 01:54:25,902
So, you know, I maintained
a relationship with him for a long time.
1889
01:54:25,985 --> 01:54:27,362
And he's the guy
1890
01:54:27,445 --> 01:54:31,491
who got me into the Rolling Thunder
concert that night.
1891
01:54:31,574 --> 01:54:32,784
Jimmy Carter.
1892
01:54:33,368 --> 01:54:34,536
Which is another story.
1893
01:54:35,495 --> 01:54:39,165
I was-- I was one of the youngest
members of the Congress.
1894
01:54:39,249 --> 01:54:40,959
And so I was, um...
1895
01:54:42,168 --> 01:54:45,296
Yeah, I mean, I was torn
between two generations there.
1896
01:54:45,380 --> 01:54:48,508
I was being pulled in both...
You know, you want to get anything done,
1897
01:54:48,591 --> 01:54:50,802
you have to get along
with people in the Congress.
1898
01:54:50,885 --> 01:54:54,681
You know, you don't get anything done
anymore because nobody wants to, but...
1899
01:54:54,764 --> 01:54:57,100
in my day you, you know,
you made an effort
1900
01:54:57,183 --> 01:54:58,393
to get along with these guys.
1901
01:54:58,476 --> 01:55:00,520
And most of them were
considerably older than I was.
1902
01:55:00,603 --> 01:55:04,691
And Dylan was considered the enemy,
really, by a lot of these guys.
1903
01:55:04,774 --> 01:55:07,569
I had grown up in this era where,
you know, you wanted to be an adult,
1904
01:55:07,652 --> 01:55:10,113
you wanted to drink a martini
with your dad, you know.
1905
01:55:10,196 --> 01:55:11,447
And now...
1906
01:55:11,531 --> 01:55:14,158
you know, "Never trust anybody over 30."
Right?
1907
01:55:14,242 --> 01:55:17,120
And I'm caught in the middle of this,
and I'm dealing in the Congress
1908
01:55:17,203 --> 01:55:18,871
with all these old guys, and...
1909
01:55:18,955 --> 01:55:21,833
You know,
it's an interesting conundrum.
1910
01:55:22,625 --> 01:55:25,545
My own
interest in the criminal justice system
1911
01:55:25,628 --> 01:55:26,963
is very heartfelt.
1912
01:55:27,463 --> 01:55:29,716
One of the sources
for my understanding about
1913
01:55:29,799 --> 01:55:31,551
what's right and wrong in this society
1914
01:55:31,634 --> 01:55:34,637
is from a personal,
very close friend of mine
1915
01:55:34,721 --> 01:55:36,681
a great poet named Bob Dylan.
1916
01:55:37,724 --> 01:55:41,227
After listening to his records
about "The Ballad of Hattie Carroll"
1917
01:55:41,311 --> 01:55:43,187
and "Like a Rolling Stone,"
1918
01:55:43,771 --> 01:55:49,694
I've learned to appreciate the dynamism
of change in a modern society.
1919
01:55:50,570 --> 01:55:53,906
I grew up as a landowner's son,
1920
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:57,160
but I don't think I ever realized
that the proper interrelationship
1921
01:55:57,243 --> 01:56:00,330
between the landowner
and those who worked on a farm
1922
01:56:00,413 --> 01:56:02,874
until I heard Dylan's record,
1923
01:56:02,957 --> 01:56:05,376
"I Ain't Gonna Work
On Maggie's Farm No More."
1924
01:56:06,461 --> 01:56:08,921
So I went to this meeting,
I believe it was in Atlanta.
1925
01:56:09,505 --> 01:56:13,718
Jimmy was there,
and he and I spoke about a few things.
1926
01:56:13,801 --> 01:56:17,430
And I can't remember exactly
what was left unsaid,
1927
01:56:17,513 --> 01:56:20,099
but I told him that I would
call him back that night,
1928
01:56:20,183 --> 01:56:22,101
and we were gonna finish
this conversation.
1929
01:56:22,185 --> 01:56:23,728
I had to get to the airport.
1930
01:56:24,228 --> 01:56:26,356
So I get on the flight,
I'm trying to get home.
1931
01:56:26,856 --> 01:56:31,402
And I got caught in a storm,
and we got diverted to Niagara Falls.
1932
01:56:32,070 --> 01:56:34,989
And I get stashed
in this cheesy little motel
1933
01:56:35,073 --> 01:56:36,574
that the airline put us up in.
1934
01:56:37,033 --> 01:56:38,701
I called Jimmy to say
I hadn't reached home,
1935
01:56:38,785 --> 01:56:41,037
but we could talk tomorrow,
and he said, "Where are you?"
1936
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:43,414
And I said, "I'm in Niagara Falls."
And he says, "Well,
1937
01:56:43,498 --> 01:56:45,792
you just hit the jackpot because--
1938
01:56:45,875 --> 01:56:48,961
because Bob Dylan's
doing this Rolling Thunder concert
1939
01:56:49,045 --> 01:56:51,172
there tonight, and you can go."
1940
01:56:51,631 --> 01:56:55,259
He said,
"I'll call him and I'll get you in."
1941
01:56:55,718 --> 01:56:58,179
Dylan!
1942
01:56:59,097 --> 01:57:00,890
Dylan, you're beautiful!
1943
01:57:02,850 --> 01:57:05,353
Uncle Sam is going to sing
1944
01:57:05,436 --> 01:57:08,731
one of his versions
of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
1945
01:57:08,815 --> 01:57:09,774
Ladies and gentlemen...
1946
01:57:09,857 --> 01:57:12,568
I saw
the best minds of my generation
1947
01:57:12,652 --> 01:57:14,362
destroyed by madness,
1948
01:57:14,445 --> 01:57:15,697
starving hysterical...
1949
01:57:15,780 --> 01:57:18,282
This song about a human being
1950
01:57:18,366 --> 01:57:19,617
who is also an Indian.
1951
01:57:21,577 --> 01:57:24,831
- "Let America be America again."
- And if you don't remember...
1952
01:57:24,914 --> 01:57:26,999
"Let it be the dream it used to be."
1953
01:57:34,340 --> 01:57:35,967
No, I'm sorry, you-- you can't...
1954
01:57:36,050 --> 01:57:38,886
- Excuse me. You can't shoot in here.
- You need authorization.
1955
01:57:38,970 --> 01:57:40,847
You cannot shoot in here, sir.
1956
01:57:40,930 --> 01:57:43,808
- Why can't I shoot in here?
- He's running the camera.
1957
01:57:43,891 --> 01:57:45,351
What organization are you from?
1958
01:57:47,854 --> 01:57:49,522
Do you know where you're going to?
1959
01:57:49,605 --> 01:57:51,149
I don't know. You'll have to ask him.
1960
01:57:52,567 --> 01:57:56,529
I'm sorry you had the hassle.
Uh, we didn't know you were coming.
1961
01:57:57,363 --> 01:57:58,322
Obviously.
1962
01:57:58,406 --> 01:58:00,116
We just happened to be
in the neighborhood.
1963
01:58:00,199 --> 01:58:03,077
I heard it was you.
I brought a friend if you don't mind.
1964
01:58:03,161 --> 01:58:06,038
No, I don't mind, but I'm sorry
you had any trouble downstairs.
1965
01:58:06,122 --> 01:58:07,582
Uh, Irwin, this is Bob.
1966
01:58:07,665 --> 01:58:08,875
- How are you?
- Good.
1967
01:58:08,958 --> 01:58:10,209
But if you're looking...
1968
01:58:11,252 --> 01:58:12,879
to help the guy, in effect,
1969
01:58:12,962 --> 01:58:16,966
you know, and your purpose is a
social one rather than a record one,
1970
01:58:17,049 --> 01:58:20,303
then I think it probably would make sense,
you know, to comment, you know, early.
1971
01:58:20,386 --> 01:58:23,264
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know what your motivations are.
1972
01:58:23,347 --> 01:58:25,808
You're kind of throwing it out
and I haven't given a lot of thought.
1973
01:58:25,892 --> 01:58:27,560
I think there's a Top 40 AM problem.
1974
01:58:27,643 --> 01:58:31,481
Conversely, there may be
a lot of black radio play,
1975
01:58:31,564 --> 01:58:33,149
for example, in the east.
1976
01:58:33,232 --> 01:58:35,943
- Or you make it AM play.
- So WWRL would--
1977
01:58:36,027 --> 01:58:38,863
It's a Bob Dylan statement,
that it is unique.
1978
01:58:38,946 --> 01:58:40,239
Whoever wants to play it can play it,
1979
01:58:40,323 --> 01:58:41,949
but the idea is he wants it
on the streets,
1980
01:58:42,033 --> 01:58:44,285
so people can do with it what they want.
1981
01:58:44,368 --> 01:58:45,870
But with those caveats,
1982
01:58:45,953 --> 01:58:48,998
your motivation is to try to do
what you can for the guy,
1983
01:58:49,081 --> 01:58:51,459
then it probably makes sense
to do it as quickly as possible.
1984
01:58:51,542 --> 01:58:53,836
- That's the motivation.
- Uh...
1985
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:57,131
♪ Pistol shots ring out
In a barroom night ♪
1986
01:58:57,673 --> 01:59:01,719
♪ Enter Patty Valentine
From the upper hall ♪
1987
01:59:01,803 --> 01:59:05,056
♪ She sees the bartender
In a pool of blood ♪
1988
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:09,227
♪ Cries out, "My God
They killed them all"... ♪
1989
01:59:09,310 --> 01:59:12,480
If they can get it out on the street
in a week that's, you know, that's good.
1990
01:59:12,563 --> 01:59:14,023
That's what they were talking about.
1991
01:59:15,149 --> 01:59:18,069
Rubin Carter was an amazing boxer,
1992
01:59:18,152 --> 01:59:19,028
middleweight,
1993
01:59:19,111 --> 01:59:20,822
who had been framed
1994
01:59:21,447 --> 01:59:23,741
for a murder in New Jersey
1995
01:59:23,825 --> 01:59:27,453
and was languishing now
in Rahway State Prison.
1996
01:59:28,704 --> 01:59:30,289
Bob wrote this incredible song,
1997
01:59:30,873 --> 01:59:34,669
"Hurricane," and was very concerned
about getting him out.
1998
01:59:35,294 --> 01:59:38,881
I'd written songs about boxers before,
so that was nothing new, but, uh...
1999
01:59:39,966 --> 01:59:42,385
I hadn't really thought about,
uh, Hurricane...
2000
01:59:43,427 --> 01:59:45,555
because I didn't know about Hurricane.
2001
01:59:45,638 --> 01:59:46,472
Uh...
2002
01:59:47,056 --> 01:59:47,932
It...
2003
01:59:49,141 --> 01:59:50,977
It never really crossed my path.
2004
01:59:52,395 --> 01:59:53,938
I got the book. I read it.
2005
01:59:54,021 --> 01:59:57,024
Um, I, you know, made a mental note
that if I was coming east,
2006
01:59:57,108 --> 01:59:59,443
or if I was east, I would, uh, visit him.
2007
01:59:59,527 --> 02:00:02,321
We were there for, you know,
most of the day,
2008
02:00:02,405 --> 02:00:03,781
as far as I can remember.
2009
02:00:03,865 --> 02:00:06,951
Uh, we got there in the morning
and then left him when it was dark.
2010
02:00:07,785 --> 02:00:09,245
I realized the man's philosophy
2011
02:00:09,328 --> 02:00:12,832
and my philosophy
were running on the same road.
2012
02:00:12,915 --> 02:00:15,793
You know, and, uh, you don't meet
too many people like that,
2013
02:00:15,877 --> 02:00:21,090
you know, that you just know that kinda
on the same path, mentally, you know.
2014
02:00:21,173 --> 02:00:22,300
Yeah.
2015
02:00:22,383 --> 02:00:26,721
Dylan was different than other people
who came to see me.
2016
02:00:26,804 --> 02:00:29,599
I mean, other people would ask
the obvious questions.
2017
02:00:29,682 --> 02:00:31,517
"Rubin, are you guilty?"
2018
02:00:31,601 --> 02:00:34,812
You know, "Did you commit this crime?"
"Did you do that?" You know.
2019
02:00:34,896 --> 02:00:36,355
But Dylan wasn't asking that.
2020
02:00:36,856 --> 02:00:40,610
Not at all. It seemed like
he was searching for something else.
2021
02:00:40,693 --> 02:00:42,445
It was as if he was saying,
2022
02:00:43,571 --> 02:00:44,572
"Who are you, man?"
2023
02:00:45,072 --> 02:00:47,450
You know, "Are you what I see?"
2024
02:00:48,618 --> 02:00:52,955
I had a friend of mine send me
his lyrics to his songs,
2025
02:00:53,539 --> 02:00:55,166
and so I could read his lyrics,
2026
02:00:55,249 --> 02:00:59,629
so I can get an-- an idea
of who I'm talkin' to here, you know.
2027
02:01:00,546 --> 02:01:01,380
And...
2028
02:01:01,881 --> 02:01:05,801
I found something
that was, uh, very interesting. Very...
2029
02:01:05,885 --> 02:01:07,470
That really connected us.
2030
02:01:07,553 --> 02:01:12,516
Both of us were... were performers
and crowd-pleasers.
2031
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,061
You know, me with the vicious left hook,
2032
02:01:15,853 --> 02:01:20,107
you know, whose parents grew up
in the Jim Crow South,
2033
02:01:20,691 --> 02:01:26,405
and Dylan, uh, you know,
with his... uh... the troubadour.
2034
02:01:26,864 --> 02:01:29,659
So you got back, and
you had the germ of an idea to do a song?
2035
02:01:29,742 --> 02:01:30,826
- Yeah.
- Why?
2036
02:01:30,910 --> 02:01:33,245
I mean, you know,
is this a return to protest...
2037
02:01:33,329 --> 02:01:34,622
I mean...
2038
02:01:34,705 --> 02:01:37,708
You know, is this, uh,
"Hattie Carroll" revisited?
2039
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:41,879
Um, there's an injustice
that has been done, you know.
2040
02:01:41,963 --> 02:01:44,465
And the fact is
that it can happen to anybody.
2041
02:01:44,548 --> 02:01:45,925
- Mm-hmm.
- You know?
2042
02:01:46,008 --> 02:01:48,552
- And we have to be confronted with that.
- So-- So--
2043
02:01:49,053 --> 02:01:51,222
This song is called "Hurricane."
2044
02:01:52,848 --> 02:01:54,892
If you got any political pull at all,
2045
02:01:54,976 --> 02:01:57,395
maybe you can help us
get this man out of jail,
2046
02:01:58,020 --> 02:01:59,563
back onto the streets.
2047
02:02:24,505 --> 02:02:27,341
♪ Pistol shots ring out
In the barroom night ♪
2048
02:02:27,842 --> 02:02:30,845
♪ Enter Patty Valentine
From the outer hall ♪
2049
02:02:31,303 --> 02:02:34,223
♪ She sees the bartender
In a pool of blood ♪
2050
02:02:34,306 --> 02:02:37,309
♪ Cries out, "My God,
They've killed 'em all!" ♪
2051
02:02:37,977 --> 02:02:40,438
♪ Here comes the story of the Hurricane ♪
2052
02:02:41,355 --> 02:02:43,733
♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪
2053
02:02:44,608 --> 02:02:46,610
♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪
2054
02:02:47,903 --> 02:02:51,615
♪ Put in a prison cell
But one time he coulda been ♪
2055
02:02:51,699 --> 02:02:53,993
♪ The champion of the world ♪
2056
02:03:02,626 --> 02:03:04,920
♪ Three bodies lyin' there
Does Patty see ♪
2057
02:03:05,921 --> 02:03:09,133
♪ And another man named Bello
Movin' mysteriously ♪
2058
02:03:09,216 --> 02:03:11,969
♪ "I didn't do it," he says
And he throws up his hands ♪
2059
02:03:12,053 --> 02:03:15,514
♪ "I was only robbin' the register
You understand ♪
2060
02:03:15,598 --> 02:03:18,350
♪ I saw them leave, though" he says
And he stops ♪
2061
02:03:19,018 --> 02:03:21,645
♪ "One of us had better
Call on the cops" ♪
2062
02:03:22,271 --> 02:03:24,440
♪ And so Patty calls the cops ♪
2063
02:03:25,566 --> 02:03:29,195
♪ And they arrive on the scene
With their red lights flashin' ♪
2064
02:03:29,278 --> 02:03:31,197
♪ In the hot New Jersey night ♪
2065
02:03:40,039 --> 02:03:42,625
♪ Meanwhile, far away
In another part of town ♪
2066
02:03:42,708 --> 02:03:46,087
♪ Rubin Carter and a couple of friends
Are drivin' around ♪
2067
02:03:46,170 --> 02:03:49,298
♪ Number one contender
For the middleweight crown ♪
2068
02:03:49,381 --> 02:03:52,551
♪ Had no idea what kinda shit
Was about to go down ♪
2069
02:03:53,094 --> 02:03:55,596
♪ When a cop pulled him over
To the side of the road ♪
2070
02:03:56,222 --> 02:03:59,141
♪ Just like the time before
And the time before that ♪
2071
02:03:59,225 --> 02:04:01,852
♪ In Paterson, that's the way things go ♪
2072
02:04:01,936 --> 02:04:06,232
♪ If you're black, you might as well
Not show up on the streets ♪
2073
02:04:06,315 --> 02:04:08,859
♪ 'Less you want to draw the heat ♪
2074
02:04:17,076 --> 02:04:19,662
♪ Alfred Bello, he laid this rap
On the cops ♪
2075
02:04:19,745 --> 02:04:23,082
♪ "Me and Arthur Dexter Bradley
Were in here prowlin' around ♪
2076
02:04:23,165 --> 02:04:26,168
♪ We saw two men runnin' out of here
They looked like middleweights ♪
2077
02:04:26,252 --> 02:04:30,005
♪ Jumped into a white car
With out-of-state plates" ♪
2078
02:04:30,089 --> 02:04:32,800
♪ And Miss Patty Valentine
Just nodded her head ♪
2079
02:04:32,883 --> 02:04:35,636
♪ Cop said, "Wait a minute, boys
This one's not dead" ♪
2080
02:04:35,719 --> 02:04:38,389
♪ So they took him to the infirmary ♪
2081
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:41,600
♪ And though this man could hardly see ♪
2082
02:04:41,684 --> 02:04:45,479
♪ They told him that he could identify
The guilty men ♪
2083
02:04:53,988 --> 02:04:56,323
♪ Four in the mornin'
And they haul Rubin in ♪
2084
02:04:56,991 --> 02:05:00,077
♪ Took him to the hospital
And they brought him upstairs ♪
2085
02:05:00,161 --> 02:05:03,080
♪ The wounded man looks up
Through his one dyin' eye ♪
2086
02:05:03,164 --> 02:05:06,709
♪ Says, "Why'd you bring him in here for?
He ain't the guy!" ♪
2087
02:05:06,792 --> 02:05:09,211
♪ Yes, here's the story of the Hurricane ♪
2088
02:05:09,795 --> 02:05:12,423
♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪
2089
02:05:13,257 --> 02:05:15,342
♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪
2090
02:05:16,427 --> 02:05:19,680
♪ Put in a prison cell
But one time he coulda been ♪
2091
02:05:19,763 --> 02:05:22,266
♪ The champion of the world ♪
2092
02:05:30,691 --> 02:05:33,569
♪ Four months later
The ghettos are in flame ♪
2093
02:05:33,652 --> 02:05:36,530
♪ Rubin's in South America
Fightin' for his name ♪
2094
02:05:37,114 --> 02:05:39,783
♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley's
Still in the robbery game ♪
2095
02:05:39,867 --> 02:05:41,619
♪ And the cops are
Puttin' the screws to him ♪
2096
02:05:41,702 --> 02:05:43,537
♪ Lookin' for someone to blame ♪
2097
02:05:43,621 --> 02:05:46,081
♪ "Remember that murder
That happened in a bar? ♪
2098
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:49,627
♪ Remember you said you saw
The getaway car? ♪
2099
02:05:49,710 --> 02:05:52,254
♪ You think you'd like to play ball
With the law? ♪
2100
02:05:52,963 --> 02:05:56,383
♪ Think it mighta been that fighter
That you saw runnin' that night? ♪
2101
02:05:56,467 --> 02:05:59,845
♪ Don't forget now, you're white" ♪
2102
02:06:07,228 --> 02:06:10,272
♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley said
"I'm really not sure" ♪
2103
02:06:10,356 --> 02:06:13,275
♪ Cops said
"A poor boy like you could use a break ♪
2104
02:06:13,359 --> 02:06:16,654
♪ We got you for the motel job
We're talkin' to your friend Bello ♪
2105
02:06:16,737 --> 02:06:20,241
♪ You don't wanna have to go back to jail
Be a nice fellow ♪
2106
02:06:20,324 --> 02:06:22,910
♪ You'll be doin' society a favor ♪
2107
02:06:23,369 --> 02:06:26,497
♪ That son of a bitch is brave
And gettin' braver ♪
2108
02:06:26,580 --> 02:06:28,707
♪ We want to put his ass in stir ♪
2109
02:06:29,792 --> 02:06:33,337
♪ We want to pin this triple murder
On him ♪
2110
02:06:33,420 --> 02:06:35,881
♪ He ain't no Gentleman Jim" ♪
2111
02:06:43,889 --> 02:06:46,850
♪ All of Rubin's cards were marked
In advance ♪
2112
02:06:46,934 --> 02:06:50,020
♪ The trial was a pig-circus
He never had a chance ♪
2113
02:06:50,104 --> 02:06:53,148
♪ The judge made Rubin's witnesses
Drunkards from the slums ♪
2114
02:06:53,232 --> 02:06:56,694
♪ To the white folks who watched
He was a revolutionary bum ♪
2115
02:06:56,777 --> 02:06:59,405
♪ And to the black folks
He was just a crazy nigger ♪
2116
02:07:00,155 --> 02:07:02,574
♪ No one doubted
That he pulled the trigger ♪
2117
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:05,577
♪ And though they could not produce
The gun ♪
2118
02:07:06,370 --> 02:07:09,707
♪ The DA said he was the one
Who did the deed ♪
2119
02:07:09,790 --> 02:07:12,626
♪ And the all-white jury agreed ♪
2120
02:07:20,801 --> 02:07:23,345
♪ Rubin Carter was falsely tried ♪
2121
02:07:23,429 --> 02:07:26,307
♪ The crime was murder one
Guess who testified? ♪
2122
02:07:26,974 --> 02:07:29,310
♪ Bello and Bradley, and they both lied ♪
2123
02:07:29,768 --> 02:07:33,230
♪ And the newspapers
They all went along for the ride ♪
2124
02:07:33,314 --> 02:07:35,482
♪ How can the life of such a man ♪
2125
02:07:36,567 --> 02:07:39,028
♪ Be in the palm of some fool's hand? ♪
2126
02:07:39,486 --> 02:07:41,780
♪ To see him obviously framed ♪
2127
02:07:42,865 --> 02:07:46,452
♪ Couldn't help but make me feel ashamed
To live in a land ♪
2128
02:07:46,535 --> 02:07:49,163
♪ Where justice is a game ♪
2129
02:07:56,754 --> 02:07:59,715
♪ Now all the criminals
In their coats and their ties... ♪
2130
02:08:00,549 --> 02:08:03,886
"Now all the criminals
in their coats and ties
2131
02:08:03,969 --> 02:08:07,931
are free to drink martinis and watch the--
and watch the sun rise."
2132
02:08:08,015 --> 02:08:11,435
"While Rubin sits like Buddha
in a ten-foot cell,
2133
02:08:11,518 --> 02:08:13,687
an innocent man in a living hell."
2134
02:08:13,771 --> 02:08:15,773
I thought that was great.
2135
02:08:16,231 --> 02:08:19,401
Because the ballad of the Hurricane...
2136
02:08:20,235 --> 02:08:25,491
uh, sent an indelible message
of justice gone awry,
2137
02:08:26,116 --> 02:08:27,242
you know what I mean?
2138
02:08:27,326 --> 02:08:28,452
So... So...
2139
02:08:28,535 --> 02:08:33,415
Dylan doing that
spread the word far and wide.
2140
02:08:36,293 --> 02:08:38,504
♪ That's the story of the Hurricane ♪
2141
02:08:39,421 --> 02:08:41,965
♪ But it won't be over
Till they clear his name ♪
2142
02:08:42,633 --> 02:08:44,802
♪ And give him back the time he's done ♪
2143
02:08:45,719 --> 02:08:49,473
♪ Put in a prison cell
But one time he coulda been ♪
2144
02:08:49,556 --> 02:08:52,559
♪ The champion of the world ♪
2145
02:09:01,777 --> 02:09:03,404
Let me introduce you to everybody.
2146
02:09:04,780 --> 02:09:07,282
Many of the people
who came to help me were white people,
2147
02:09:07,825 --> 02:09:10,244
which must have surprised the authorities,
2148
02:09:10,327 --> 02:09:13,455
because the authorities claimed
that I committed this crime
2149
02:09:13,539 --> 02:09:15,457
because of my hatred for white people.
2150
02:09:15,541 --> 02:09:17,501
But here's all these white folks
2151
02:09:18,127 --> 02:09:20,587
coming to help this poor black man
2152
02:09:20,671 --> 02:09:22,923
who's in prison for something
that he didn't do,
2153
02:09:23,006 --> 02:09:25,717
something that he didn't do.
I mean, it-- it was great.
2154
02:09:25,801 --> 02:09:28,887
What happens if the courts
say no, where do you go from there?
2155
02:09:28,971 --> 02:09:31,348
Are you gonna go back into
the courts once again?
2156
02:09:31,432 --> 02:09:34,184
If the courts say no,
we just keep on fighting.
2157
02:09:34,268 --> 02:09:36,895
There's no such--
There's no such thing as no.
2158
02:09:37,354 --> 02:09:38,605
There's just yes,
2159
02:09:38,689 --> 02:09:41,316
and the road is straight ahead,
and we keep on going.
2160
02:09:42,443 --> 02:09:44,111
Bob always been searching.
2161
02:09:44,194 --> 02:09:48,449
Every time I see Bob now, and
which we don't see each other frequently,
2162
02:09:48,532 --> 02:09:52,786
but every time I see him, I ask Bob,
"Have you found it yet, Bob?"
2163
02:09:53,996 --> 02:09:55,664
And Bob says, "Yeah, I found it."
2164
02:09:56,123 --> 02:09:59,877
But I know he hasn't,
'cause he keeps searching.
2165
02:10:01,170 --> 02:10:04,214
He'd always say,
"Hey, what are you searching for today?"
2166
02:10:04,298 --> 02:10:05,382
I'd say, "What?"
2167
02:10:05,466 --> 02:10:08,218
He'd say, "I know you're a searcher.
What are you searching for?"
2168
02:10:08,302 --> 02:10:12,848
I'd say, uh, "Well, Hurricane,
I'm searching for the Holy Grail."
2169
02:10:12,931 --> 02:10:13,932
And he'd say, "What?"
2170
02:10:14,016 --> 02:10:18,353
I said, "I'm gonna search
until I find it, like Sir Galahad."
2171
02:10:20,481 --> 02:10:21,815
That's what I'm looking for.
2172
02:10:24,776 --> 02:10:28,655
- Five minutes. Five minutes.
- Do you think he's a genius?
2173
02:10:29,239 --> 02:10:31,033
Is Bob Dylan a genius?
2174
02:10:32,451 --> 02:10:34,912
I don't know.
That's a strange word.
2175
02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:37,164
Maybe.
2176
02:10:37,247 --> 02:10:41,293
I think the most brilliant thing he did
was putting a group of highly motivated
2177
02:10:41,376 --> 02:10:44,546
and ambitious people on a train
with no supervision,
2178
02:10:44,630 --> 02:10:47,966
and then let them become
the most extreme versions of themselves.
2179
02:10:48,467 --> 02:10:50,594
Is that how you'd
describe what happened?
2180
02:10:50,677 --> 02:10:52,471
I know that's what happened to me.
2181
02:10:52,554 --> 02:10:54,932
Let's go. Let's go.
2182
02:10:56,391 --> 02:10:57,226
Let's go.
2183
02:10:57,893 --> 02:10:59,978
So, why did you
come here to speak to me?
2184
02:11:00,062 --> 02:11:04,525
Well, to try and,
you know, stake my claim
2185
02:11:04,608 --> 02:11:08,362
and say, "Here I am, this is me.
I'm the one who made this.
2186
02:11:08,445 --> 02:11:09,905
You're using it.
2187
02:11:09,988 --> 02:11:13,659
This wouldn't exist without me.
I'm the filmmaker here."
2188
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:18,163
December 4th, 1975, Montreal, Canada,
2189
02:11:18,247 --> 02:11:20,874
last scheduled concert
for the Rolling Thunder Revue.
2190
02:11:21,833 --> 02:11:26,713
We phantoms are assembled
at the end of the Rolling Thunder tour.
2191
02:11:26,797 --> 02:11:28,507
Roger? Let's go. Luther?
2192
02:11:28,590 --> 02:11:31,426
We started out
trying to recover America.
2193
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:34,346
We discovered a certain amount
of truth about ourselves.
2194
02:11:34,805 --> 02:11:37,558
Old friends who thought
their loves had been lost
2195
02:11:37,641 --> 02:11:41,562
were able to get together
and, uh, face each other eye to eye
2196
02:11:41,645 --> 02:11:44,022
and sing over an electrical microphone
2197
02:11:44,106 --> 02:11:48,360
to please the desires
of myriad young yearners,
2198
02:11:48,443 --> 02:11:51,572
who had been seeking some kind
of union and community
2199
02:11:51,655 --> 02:11:53,657
and saw there in an image
of that community.
2200
02:11:54,783 --> 02:11:56,702
Was the tour a success?
2201
02:11:56,785 --> 02:11:59,454
The tour was a disaster,
it was a catastrophe.
2202
02:11:59,538 --> 02:12:00,789
- Why?
- Well,
2203
02:12:00,872 --> 02:12:03,792
I told 'em we should be playing
to 20,000-seaters,
2204
02:12:03,875 --> 02:12:06,587
but instead, you know, they wanted
to play all these small joints.
2205
02:12:06,670 --> 02:12:09,673
Now you've got 16 to 18 people onstage,
2206
02:12:09,756 --> 02:12:12,384
and you got 15 people on the back line.
2207
02:12:13,051 --> 02:12:16,513
Buses and hotel rooms and catering,
and you're only playing to houses
2208
02:12:16,597 --> 02:12:19,391
with 3,000 seats,
so you're gonna hemorrhage money.
2209
02:12:19,474 --> 02:12:21,560
We were in the red
before we even got on the road.
2210
02:12:21,643 --> 02:12:23,895
No, it wasn't a success.
2211
02:12:24,646 --> 02:12:26,982
Not if you measure success
in terms of profit.
2212
02:12:28,275 --> 02:12:29,943
But it was a sense of adventure.
2213
02:12:31,236 --> 02:12:35,407
So, in many ways, yes,
it was very successful.
2214
02:12:36,825 --> 02:12:37,868
Let's go.
2215
02:12:38,785 --> 02:12:40,037
Time to go.
2216
02:12:40,787 --> 02:12:43,874
- Come on. We're on.
- Yeah, Rob, you look pretty.
2217
02:12:48,420 --> 02:12:50,589
What remains of that tour to this day?
2218
02:12:50,672 --> 02:12:51,506
Nothing.
2219
02:12:52,883 --> 02:12:54,134
Not one single thing.
2220
02:12:54,718 --> 02:12:55,552
Ashes.
2221
02:12:59,264 --> 02:13:03,268
♪ Mama, wipe the blood off of my face ♪
2222
02:13:06,938 --> 02:13:10,192
♪ I can't see through it anymore ♪
2223
02:13:13,612 --> 02:13:17,949
♪ I need someone to talk to
And a new hiding place ♪
2224
02:13:21,703 --> 02:13:25,248
♪ I feel like I'm knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2225
02:13:29,002 --> 02:13:32,589
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2226
02:13:36,343 --> 02:13:39,971
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2227
02:13:43,684 --> 02:13:47,979
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2228
02:13:50,982 --> 02:13:55,237
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2229
02:13:58,448 --> 02:14:01,702
♪ Mama, I can hear that thunder roll ♪
2230
02:14:05,831 --> 02:14:09,501
♪ Echoing down from God's distant shore ♪
2231
02:14:12,879 --> 02:14:16,883
♪ I can hear Him calling out for my soul ♪
2232
02:14:20,345 --> 02:14:23,890
♪ I feel I'm knocking on heaven's door ♪
2233
02:14:27,894 --> 02:14:31,648
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2234
02:14:35,277 --> 02:14:39,531
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2235
02:14:42,701 --> 02:14:47,080
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2236
02:14:49,958 --> 02:14:54,671
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2237
02:15:17,402 --> 02:15:21,573
You who saw it all,
or saw flashes and fragments,
2238
02:15:21,656 --> 02:15:24,201
take from us some example,
2239
02:15:24,284 --> 02:15:26,495
try and get yourselves together,
2240
02:15:26,578 --> 02:15:29,581
clean up your act, find your community,
2241
02:15:29,664 --> 02:15:33,376
pick up on some kind of redemption
of your own consciousness,
2242
02:15:33,460 --> 02:15:36,046
become more mindful of your own friends,
2243
02:15:36,129 --> 02:15:37,214
your own work,
2244
02:15:37,297 --> 02:15:39,090
your own proper meditation,
2245
02:15:39,174 --> 02:15:40,425
your own proper art,
2246
02:15:40,509 --> 02:15:41,551
your own beauty.
2247
02:15:41,635 --> 02:15:44,846
Go out and make it for your own eternity.
2248
02:15:49,142 --> 02:15:53,814
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2249
02:15:56,608 --> 02:16:01,029
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2250
02:16:03,782 --> 02:16:08,745
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2251
02:16:11,206 --> 02:16:16,169
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2252
02:16:20,549 --> 02:16:25,512
♪ The water is wide ♪
2253
02:16:25,595 --> 02:16:28,557
♪ And I can't cross over ♪
2254
02:16:31,977 --> 02:16:35,939
♪ I've neither wings ♪
2255
02:16:37,274 --> 02:16:42,320
♪ That I could fly ♪
2256
02:16:42,404 --> 02:16:47,158
♪ Build me a boat ♪
2257
02:16:47,909 --> 02:16:52,163
♪ That can carry two ♪
2258
02:16:53,415 --> 02:16:56,918
♪ And both shall row ♪
2259
02:16:59,087 --> 02:17:03,758
♪ My love and I ♪
2260
02:17:12,392 --> 02:17:16,813
♪ There is a ship ♪
2261
02:17:17,564 --> 02:17:20,400
♪ And it sails on the sea ♪
2262
02:17:23,737 --> 02:17:27,741
♪ Loaded deep ♪
2263
02:17:28,491 --> 02:17:33,079
♪ As deep can be ♪
2264
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:38,543
♪ But not as deep ♪
2265
02:17:39,085 --> 02:17:43,882
♪ As the love I'm in ♪
2266
02:17:44,591 --> 02:17:47,844
♪ And both shall row ♪
2267
02:17:49,804 --> 02:17:55,769
♪ My love and I ♪
2268
02:18:21,544 --> 02:18:23,672
Bob!
2269
02:18:26,174 --> 02:18:28,051
Encore!
2270
02:18:34,057 --> 02:18:36,434
♪ Hot chilipeppers
In the blistering sun ♪
2271
02:18:39,354 --> 02:18:42,148
♪ Dust on my face and my cape ♪
2272
02:18:44,526 --> 02:18:47,737
♪ Me and Magdalena on the run ♪
2273
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:53,952
♪ I think this time we shall escape ♪
2274
02:18:55,412 --> 02:18:58,456
♪ Sold my guitar to the baker's son ♪
2275
02:19:00,917 --> 02:19:04,713
♪ For a few crumbs and a place to hide ♪
2276
02:19:06,339 --> 02:19:09,217
♪ But I can get another one ♪
2277
02:19:11,219 --> 02:19:15,306
♪ And I'll play for Magdalena as we ride ♪
2278
02:19:16,349 --> 02:19:19,060
♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
2279
02:19:19,853 --> 02:19:21,563
♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
2280
02:19:22,063 --> 02:19:25,900
♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪
2281
02:19:26,526 --> 02:19:29,404
♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪
2282
02:19:29,487 --> 02:19:31,573
♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪
2283
02:19:32,198 --> 02:19:35,952
♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪
2284
02:19:47,172 --> 02:19:50,216
♪ Past the Aztec ruins
And the ghosts of our people ♪
2285
02:19:52,093 --> 02:19:55,472
♪ Hoofbeats like castanets on stone ♪
2286
02:19:56,639 --> 02:19:59,851
♪ At night, I dream of bells
In the village steeple ♪
2287
02:20:01,394 --> 02:20:05,315
♪ Then I see the bloody face of Ramon ♪
2288
02:20:06,399 --> 02:20:09,694
♪ Was it me that shot him down
In the cantina? ♪
2289
02:20:11,988 --> 02:20:15,158
♪ Was it my hand that held the gun? ♪
2290
02:20:16,826 --> 02:20:19,662
♪ Come let us fly, my Magdalena ♪
2291
02:20:21,456 --> 02:20:24,667
♪ The dogs are barking
And what's done is done ♪
2292
02:20:25,877 --> 02:20:28,755
♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
2293
02:20:29,297 --> 02:20:31,049
♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
2294
02:20:31,674 --> 02:20:35,053
♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪
2295
02:20:35,845 --> 02:20:38,389
♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪
2296
02:20:38,473 --> 02:20:40,683
♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪
2297
02:20:41,267 --> 02:20:44,771
♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪
2298
02:20:55,240 --> 02:20:58,493
♪ At the corrida, we'll sit in the shade ♪
2299
02:21:00,036 --> 02:21:03,373
♪ And watch the young torero stand alone ♪
2300
02:21:05,041 --> 02:21:08,336
♪ Drank tequila
Where our grandfathers stayed ♪
2301
02:21:09,420 --> 02:21:12,924
♪ When they rode with Villa into Torreón ♪
2302
02:21:14,384 --> 02:21:17,929
♪ And the padre will recite
The prayers of old ♪
2303
02:21:19,222 --> 02:21:22,976
♪ In the little church this side of town ♪
2304
02:21:24,018 --> 02:21:27,480
♪ I'll wear new boots
And an earring of gold ♪
2305
02:21:28,690 --> 02:21:32,485
♪ You'll shine with diamonds
In your wedding gown ♪
2306
02:21:34,154 --> 02:21:36,990
♪ Was that the thunder that I heard? ♪
2307
02:21:38,825 --> 02:21:41,870
♪ My head is vibrating
I feel a sharp pain ♪
2308
02:21:43,413 --> 02:21:46,166
♪ Come sit by me, don't say a word ♪
2309
02:21:48,209 --> 02:21:51,421
♪ Oh, can it be that I am slain? ♪
2310
02:21:52,922 --> 02:21:55,425
♪ Quick, Magdalena, take my gun ♪
2311
02:21:57,635 --> 02:22:00,847
♪ Look up in the hills
That flash of light ♪
2312
02:22:02,557 --> 02:22:05,185
♪ Aim well, my little one ♪
2313
02:22:07,145 --> 02:22:10,648
♪ We may not make it through the night ♪